@goldenelementxl said:
@jg4xchamp: I'm not oblivious to older games, though. I just don't approach the hobby with the level of entitlement that you do.
you goons type this like a bad thing. You're the consumer, you should act entitled. You don't get a piece of the cut on what they are trying to sell you, if you suddenly started getting less, you're more than justified to request more for your money.
@goldenelementxl said:
@jg4xchamp: I'm not oblivious to older games, though. I just don't approach the hobby with the level of entitlement that you do. Yes, Halo 3 launched with far more content and features than Halo 5. I don't think the suit customization and req packs are to blame. The amount of manpower it takes to include entire modes vs designing and coding cosmetics are nowhere near even.
Yet with a larger team Halo 5 has less content than a game that came out a decade prior. With less visually distinct maps to boot. This continues to be the case with a lot of games, your comment was "we don't get less for our money", that's not completely, that's measurably false in the case of a lot of franchises n games.
@goldenelementxl said:
@jg4xchamp: nd I don't get your UT 2004 example. And I have the game installed as we speak...
Were you to actually have it installed and play it, you would know UT2k4 has some absurd map count n different characters you can play as in multiplayer. That was content rich title in 2004, UT99 was similarly content rich. Yet most shooters today couldn't stack up favorably to the content of Unreal Tournament.
@goldenelementxl said:
I don't understand how you don't see how far your dollar is going in 2019. The Devs and Pubs see it, which is why they are "nickle n' diming" consumers.
Because I'm not a putz for starters. What does my money go to in the case of Xbutt live n PSN plus? Playing online on dedicated servers? because the devs are expected to handle their own servers, allowing me to communicate with my friends? PSN had that last gen and I could do it for free. Party chat? Same thing. Stable online?
I distinctly remember paying for Xbox Live and dealing with Gears of War's netcode n host advantage.
That's without me bringing up PC gaming, and how we don't pay for shit, and we don't pay for that scam.
Furthermore, how far is my dollar going? 60 bucks is getting me less shit, it's getting me less deep gameplay, it's getting me no real added interesting modes that aren't the old tried n true done to death mp shit.
@goldenelementxl said:
There's a reason the "B" tier developer is gone and why we don't get nearly as many games as we used to.
This is factually incorrect. We actually get more video games a month than ever, that B tier dev is now an indie studio, that middle market is back in a big way on PC. Japan's offering had to be dialed back because of the death of their console market, but even they are plugging in the middle market vibe on consoles n PC.
A lot of smaller devs have figured out it aint about how much bark is on that tree in the background, but how fun the actual game is to play.
@goldenelementxl said:
. Game development cost has gone through the roof
And that's my problem how? They are the ones that for years pitched content content content. They are the ones that for years pitched graphics graphics graphics. I didn't do that shit to them, I didn't tell them to exclusively make big budget ass games with 1000 man teams.
All I did was pay for a video game, and if it fails to deliver on things I deem important, I am going to criticize said game for it. Not a hard concept to follow when you have a spine.
@goldenelementxl said:
The casual gamer doesn't seem to have a problem paying more for extra features and content.
No one argued otherwise, and why the **** do you always do this as some sort of defense? I don't fucking care what the casuals do or what you do. You people lacking spine, does not suddenly invalidate the take of people with one. Just because you're too stupid to know the value of your own money, doesn't mean I have to follow along with you.
@goldenelementxl said:
Funny thing is, most of you don't even play/have any intention to play the games you bitch about. But to expect $60 in 2019 to go further than $60 did 20 years ago is nuts.
Actually it's not unfair at all. Standards don't inherently have to get lowered, as there is no logical reason to lower them. 60 dollars has stayed the price of admission, because I'm sure the bean counters and all the other financial suits have enough reasonable data that tells them going higher than 60 bucks just isn't viable. Probably because if it was the other non 60 dollar sku would have a higher percentage of the sales, as most triple A games don't just launch at 60 bucks. There is a 70-100 dollar version in a lot of cases.
I understand that you just discovered the inflation meme, but the markets dictated what its willing to consider is the value of a video game at max and such. Notice how we learned from the PS4 and XBox One, that less people will pay for a video game console that is over 399.99.
So again, considering that you keep peddling this meme that you used to get less, yet there are more than enough examples of where we used to get more, you don't actually have a point there. Try again.
@goldenelementxl said:
I'm not gonna blame cosmetic microtransactions though.
And were I to have actually said that you might have something resembling a point. But that's not what I did now did I. In fact I said my issue with mp games has nothing to do with MTs, its perfectly fine if the pubs n devs want to do it. I'm just going to tell people they aren't allowed to criticize the inclusion of them, and see them for what they are.
They keep being added in, but I get less for my money in the case of a lot of games, the depth is completely lacking in a lot of these games, and added bonus the devs think they are being cute when they hold shit that was going to be in the game day 1 (because in past entries it was), but delay it for "post game support" to pull off some fake "look at how we support the community n players" meme, when it's actually bullshit, they are just finishing the game they sold you.
You're not taking some "enlightened" view when you're calling other people "entitled", you're just a corporate shill in denial.
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