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Poll Did From Software lie? (40 votes)

Probably 75%
No 25%

Flash your mind back my friends to this.

And then we had this.

"The first Dark Souls was adapted from consoles to PC – this time, it's the opposite. The PC version serves as the base,"

But now, we have this.

"Throughout the game development process, a game is constantly being balanced not only in game playability, but also in the realm of resource management," it said.

And alas, we have this.

Unfortunately, if you were hoping for the PC version to showcase the impressive lighting we saw in pre-release video, you’ll be sad to learn that the lighting remains as flat on the PC as it did on consoles. Carrying a torch through the dim hallways of The Lost Bastille brings with it a few moody moments, but nothing on par with the way lightning pierced the bleak darkness as it did in early previews, in which we traversed Drangleic Castle in pursuit of the Looking Glass Knight. I have no doubt that modern PCs could have rendered the elaborate real-time lighting that characterized the game’s early builds without trouble, but it appears that From Software sought platform parity, which is a shame. After all, the community has already proven how beautiful these games can be with a little extra development effort.

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#1 Wasdie  Moderator
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It does seem like they pulled a Gearbox with this one.

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#2 clyde46
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Least its running at 1080p now.

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#3 CrownKingArthur
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pre order?

no.

once it's released i'll decide.

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#4 freedomfreak
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A shame. I expected the PC version to have some aces up its sleeves. It being the lead platform, and releasing quite a bit later, gave me that impression.

Still, playing this at 60FPS should be lovely.

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#5  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@CrownKingArthur said:

pre order?

no.

once it's released i'll decide.

Keven Vanguard put up a preview on the front page (the last quote). It's released in about 2 weeks.

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#6  Edited By cainetao11
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I don't know. Quite often when people post what I imagine are pics, videos, etc I only have an empty white box. Dont know if its my crap computer, settings, or what?

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#7 lostrib
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Well looks like it still looks and runs better

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#8 f50p90
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Yes they lied. They are incompetent graphical devs. Their game design is the best though, and good thing for PC mods to ramp up the graphics. I don't think they will mod the lighting though, oh well.

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#9 CrownKingArthur
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@uninspiredcup said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

pre order?

no.

once it's released i'll decide.

Keven Vanguard put up a preview on the front page (the last quote). It's released in about 2 weeks.

i am aware of that me old china. i mean the pc version, for bugs and stuff. i want to hear from end users.

if there are too many bugs, i might wait for patches to be released, and all the while that's happening - the price is only going to go down.

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#10  Edited By uninspiredcup
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According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

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#11 Mr-Powers
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Ouch. This is gonna hurt the pc community even more. Tons of commenters online talking about just sticking with the console version for bigger player base. Throw in the hackers on pc version, and the community is gonna be just as bad as DS1.

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@mr-powers said:

Ouch. This is gonna hurt the pc community even more. Tons of commenters online talking about just sticking with the console version for bigger player base. Throw in the hackers on pc version, and the community is gonna be just as bad as DS1.

sources please

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#13  Edited By MFDOOM1983
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Achieving 1080p/60fps on modest systems is enough for me. I'll pick it up sometime in the summer.

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#14 Ballroompirate
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Only delusional people thought From Software was actually serious about the whole "PC version will be the lead platform and it will look a lot better". FSW has barely any experience making games for the PC and are primarily a console dev.

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#15 Mr-Powers
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@Ballroompirate said:

Only delusional people thought From Software was actually serious about the whole "PC version will be the lead platform and it will look a lot better". FSW has barely any experience making games for the PC and are primarily a console dev.

I guess they are delusional. how can people really believe From is going to waste extra resources on the PC version when it's going to bring in a fraction of the revenue? The delay and reveal only confirmed that they were full of sht when they claimed pc version was lead.

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#16 Animal-Mother
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@Wasdie: Newsflash developers don't spend millions of dollars to "lie" to people or to fake people out.

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You have to look at the time/money aspect of making PC games, they are not going to spent an extra amount of time making changes to the game and play testing it for PC which accounts for probably 10% of the total sales. To be honest after seeing the preview videos I'm glad they changed some of the lighting to be brighter. Making the while game like tomb of the giants would piss me off, kinda makes the lighting torches thing a bit pointless in most areas but oh well.

I hope they have at least took some of the optimisation out of the game though, the PS3 version at least has issues when you pan the camera you can see objects and parts of the level pop and animations on enemies have a lower update rate and so on, the PC does not need that. If that is left in then From Software are being a bunch of trolls.

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#18 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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Who cares? If you're playing Dark Souls for the graphics you're doing it wrong

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#19  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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They did and would have continued doing it if people on NeoGAF didn't go crazy over the downgrade.

Main reason they lied is because they were showing off screenshots and footage of the old build to sell the game when it didn't even look the same anymore. They only recently removed the screenshots from Steam because of a twitter campaign against them labeled "#YOULIED"

My only hope now is that the PC version doesn't run like ass and doesn't have the insane input lag my PS3 version has

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@seanmcloughlin said:

They did and would have continued doing it if people on NeoGAF didn't go crazy over the downgrade.

Main reason they lied is because they were showing off screenshots and footage of the old build to sell the game when it didn't even look the same anymore. They only recently removed the screenshots from Steam because of a twitter campaign against them labeled "#YOULIED"

My only hope now is that the PC version doesn't run like ass and doesn't have the insane input lag my PS3 version has

I'm gonna just wait until the community fixes it................................Again.

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#21 turtlethetaffer
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Quit bitching and just play the damn game. It's great, pretty much on par with the first. Which means it's definitely worth playing.

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#22 BattleSpectre
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So if the Graphics/Lighting won't be improved on the PC version, what the hell are we waiting for than?

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#23  Edited By inb4uall
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@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

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#24  Edited By pelvist
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Yes they did. Video game developers/publishers seem like they are exempt from the regulations that protect consumers from misleading selling practices, like false advertising.

I posted a video with gameplay footage from the PC version here in the PC forum if anyone wants to see how it looks.

Ill put it in here instead. This is PC gameplay footage with max settings at 1080p:

Loading Video...

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#25 PinkieWinkie
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Its relatively old news they lied about the visuals in this game. Though its not just the PC version, the console version was also downgraded.

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#26 lostrib
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@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

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@lostrib said:
@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

waiting, just like with GTA V. (if you get it at all)

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@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

Don't lie. You have no friends, jankarop/sniper.

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#29  Edited By foxhound_fox
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As long as the mod community can access the meat of the game, it'll be fine.

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#30 lostrib
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@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:
@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

waiting, just like with GTA V. (if you get it at all)

For a better version of the game

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#31 inb4uall
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@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:
@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

waiting, just like with GTA V. (if you get it at all)

For a better version of the game

is that GTA V better on your PC?

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#32  Edited By lostrib
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@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:
@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

waiting, just like with GTA V. (if you get it at all)

For a better version of the game

is that GTA V better on your PC?

I would imagine so

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@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:
@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

waiting, just like with GTA V. (if you get it at all)

For a better version of the game

is that GTA V better on your PC?

I would imagine so

have fun "imagining" that experience.

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#34  Edited By silversix_
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They did lie and if wasn't such a Souls whore i'd be annoyed but at this point i just want the pc version so gimme. With SweetFX and texture mods it'll look better than what was originally shown

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#35 lostrib
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@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

For a better version of the game

is that GTA V better on your PC?

I would imagine so

have fun "imagining" that experience.

Why would I do that?

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@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:
@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

waiting, just like with GTA V. (if you get it at all)

For a better version of the game

is that GTA V better on your PC?

I would imagine so

have fun "imagining" that experience.

why even set yourself up for this? you know GTA5 will end up on the PC sooner or later so why even bother?

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#37 lostrib
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@silversix_ said:

They did lie and if wasn't such a Souls whore i'd be annoyed but at this point i just want the pc version so gimme. With SweetFX and texture mods it'll look better than what was originally shown

I feel like most souls fan don't care as much about the graphics as they do about the game not chugging

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#38 lawlessx
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@lostrib said:

@silversix_ said:

They did lie and if wasn't such a Souls whore i'd be annoyed but at this point i just want the pc version so gimme. With SweetFX and texture mods it'll look better than what was originally shown

I feel like most souls fan don't care as much about the graphics as they do about the game not chugging

that is true,but we shouldn't let that hide the fact that we gamers are being played the fool alot these days.

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#39  Edited By silversix_
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@lostrib said:

@silversix_ said:

They did lie and if wasn't such a Souls whore i'd be annoyed but at this point i just want the pc version so gimme. With SweetFX and texture mods it'll look better than what was originally shown

I feel like most souls fan don't care as much about the graphics as they do about the game not chugging

that is because the majority play on ps3 and good graphics in a Souls game is something they ever saw. Fromsoftware need to step up their shit and create Dark Souls 3 on a proper engine when it comes to ps4 and you'll see every Souls fan care about graphics.

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#40 CrownKingArthur
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@lostrib:

imagine grand theft auto
on pc if you try
no dips below 30
framerates only high
imagine all the people

who actually like grand theft auto

i'm not one of them. i have a 360 and i'm about as interested in grand theft auto as I am in performing a hydrochloric enema on myself - to clarify my position i am 100% disinterested.

but i just wanted to parody jon lennon's imagine. anyway *clears throat*

imagine there's no fanboys
I wonder if you can
no butthurt and no jelly
no thanking the lord kaz
imagine all these fanmen
gaming on PC ... who whooooo hu-hu-hu...

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@lawlessx said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:

@inb4uall said:

@lostrib said:
@inb4uall said:

@uninspiredcup said:

According to my main man Keven (we are best friends) Dark Souls 1 modded looks better.

Comparison

Delay was most likely bullshit to curve piracy.

PC gamers have only done this to themselves. now they will reap the benefits.

Benefits being a better version of the game?

waiting, just like with GTA V. (if you get it at all)

For a better version of the game

is that GTA V better on your PC?

I would imagine so

have fun "imagining" that experience.

why even set yourself up for this? you know GTA5 will end up on the PC sooner or later so why even bother?

because trolling is fun, and I've got a half hour before my mates come over.

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#42 Pffrbt
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@Vatusus said:

Who cares? If you're playing Dark Souls for the graphics you're doing it wrong

I care. I was shown an amazing looking game, but instead I'm given something that looks like crap for absolutely no reason. There's no reason why the PC version has to look awful simply because consoles are awful.

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#44 lostrib
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Didn't hermits beg From to release theri game on PC in the first place? I think herms need to shut up and be grateful for their crumbs.

Ungrateful bitching like this is why From should have pissed on hermits beggars and let them wade through the hordes of broken, half ass western RPGs that they had been praising for years before they found out what a game with good game play was actually like.

No

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#45  Edited By Cloud_imperium
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Yes they lied

@mr-powers said:

I guess they are delusional. how can people really believe From is going to waste extra resources on the PC version when it's going to bring in a fraction of the revenue? The delay and reveal only confirmed that they were full of sht when they claimed pc version was lead.

Still looks better than console version .

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#47  Edited By lostrib
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@kinectthedots said:

@lostrib said:

@kinectthedots said:

Didn't hermits beg From to release theri game on PC in the first place? I think herms need to shut up and be grateful for their crumbs.

Ungrateful bitching like this is why From should have pissed on hermits beggars and let them wade through the hordes of broken, half ass western RPGs that they had been praising for years before they found out what a game with good game play was actually like.

No

Yes, they did.

Stop lying, most everyone here knows this d-bag

Except for the part where it didn't happen.A namco employee stated that if there was interest in the game on PC then a port was possible, even stating "Someone to make a successful petition?"

In response to that, a petition was created to show Namco/From Software that there was a significant interest in a PC version. So no, there was no begging.

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#48 MirkoS77
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Yes, they lied.

Thank God for the mods.

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#49  Edited By kinectthedots
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@lostrib said:

@kinectthedots said:

@lostrib said:

@kinectthedots said:

Didn't hermits beg From to release theri game on PC in the first place? I think herms need to shut up and be grateful for their crumbs.

Ungrateful bitching like this is why From should have pissed on hermits beggars and let them wade through the hordes of broken, half ass western RPGs that they had been praising for years before they found out what a game with good game play was actually like.

No

Yes, they did.

Stop lying, most everyone here knows this d-bag

Except for the part where it didn't happen.A namco employee stated that if there was interest in the game on PC then a port was possible, even stating "Someone to make a successful petition?"

In response to that, a petition was created to show Namco/From Software that there was a significant interest in a PC version. So no, there was no begging.

What an idiotic response.

The link says everything, stop the DC and stupidity lostrib. All you can do now is shut up and wait for the next opportunity to try your BS in another post to show your ignorance and failed arguments.

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#50  Edited By MonsieurX
Member since 2008 • 39858 Posts

@kinectthedots said:

@lostrib said:

@kinectthedots said:

@lostrib said:

@kinectthedots said:

Didn't hermits beg From to release theri game on PC in the first place? I think herms need to shut up and be grateful for their crumbs.

Ungrateful bitching like this is why From should have pissed on hermits beggars and let them wade through the hordes of broken, half ass western RPGs that they had been praising for years before they found out what a game with good game play was actually like.

No

Yes, they did.

Stop lying, most everyone here knows this d-bag

Except for the part where it didn't happen.A namco employee stated that if there was interest in the game on PC then a port was possible, even stating "Someone to make a successful petition?"

In response to that, a petition was created to show Namco/From Software that there was a significant interest in a PC version. So no, there was no begging.

What an idiotic response.

The link says everything, stop the DC and stupidity lostrib. All you can do now is shut up and wait for the next opportunity to try your BS in another post to show your ignorance and failed arguments.

http://www.ripten.com/2012/01/09/petition-to-have-dark-souls-ported-to-pc/

Such bitterness and aggressive posting for nothing

“There is always possibilities to have games adapted on PC and the good news is that Dark Souls is not a 100% typical Console game so the adaptation is possible. Now to make things happen, let’s say the demand has to be properly done. someone to make a successful petition?”