DF: The Division 2: Next-Gen Runs at 60FPS - But What's Up With PS5 Visuals?

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#1  Edited By Zero_epyon
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  • 60 fps backward compatibility update for next gen
  • Series S 900p-1080p with temporal reconstruction
  • Series X 1800p-4K also with temporal reconstruction
  • PS5 1080p-1890p withh reconstruction
  • Series X BC helps better than PS5's BC
  • mostly a resolution and performance upgrade
  • PS5 patch has problems (missing and odd features from X|S)
    • Volumetric fog
    • Blacks are crushed
    • Reflections are cube maps instead of SSR
  • Definitely, a bug as these features and effects are in the PS4 Pro version
  • Though missing all of those effects, the PS5 is a solid 60 fps except for a rare spot during combat
  • There are also rare screen tears on PS5
  • Series X dips more frequently but not frequently enough to be an issue
  • Leveling up can make the fps dip where it doesn't on PS5
  • Series S has fewer drops than Series X
  • Series S has a bug where drops happen after you die
  • Series X wins at loading speeds. PS5 takes 10 seconds longer to load.
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#2 Telekill
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The game was over 100GB before the next gen upgrade. I got bored with it and deleted it off the HDD already.

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#3  Edited By deactivated-628e6669daebe
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PS5 new champion of black crush but manages almost locked 60 with settings inferior to PS4 Pro. Loading times much slower than Xbox Series X and S.

Xbox Series X collapses when displays text on screen. Series S best overall version.

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#5 Zero_epyon
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@girlusocrazy said:

Did Ubi take the lazy way out and just enhance the PS4 version instead of making a proper PS5 version? There's really something wrong with the PS5 version.

I wouldn't even call it an enhancement as the Pro has all of those missing features.

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Haha, go the Series S!

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#8 Silentchief
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It's just running the PS4 pro version with uncapped framerate.

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#11  Edited By lamprey263
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So when do cows declare PS5 wins in this head to head?

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#12 Silentchief
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@girlusocrazy said:

@silentchief: Not even, the PS4 Pro version has reflections and effects that are missing from the PS5 version too. It doesn't make any sense.

A bug maybe? A shit job by Ubisuck either way.

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#13 lamprey263
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@silentchief: honestly they update things so much stuff breaks all the time, things like ladders and ropes that should work are out of alignment and can't be climbed, and it's a crapshoot whether their support staff acknowledges these issues

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#14 Silentchief
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@lamprey263: another reason I hate games as a service.

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So this is definitive proof that the Pro is still the only professional console in the market?

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#16 lamprey263
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@silentchief: well, I have played more broken GaaS and honestly I think Division 2 is probably the best of the best of them, I might have argued Destiny 2 a while back but they archived the story missions in a convoluted mess

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#17 hardwenzen  Online
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Another example why Ubi is a meme. They simply can't get anything right.

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#18 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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And ubi are confirmed to transition all franchises to a live service, gross.

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another easy xbox win

9-2 tinyflops

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That PS5 super ultra next gen that cannot be matched by PC SSD seems to be underperforming as of late. 😎 I was promised that nothing on the market can match it's performance, not even PCs. What happened?😂

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#21 BassMan
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@Pedro said:

That PS5 super ultra next gen that cannot be matched by PC SSD seems to be underperforming as of late. 😎 I was promised that nothing on the market can match it's performance, not even PCs. What happened?😂

The game wasn't dipped in the secret sauce. LOL

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PS5 is underwhelming to say the least. Stupid Cows still rushing out to get one. Clown world!

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#23 Pedro  Online
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It is interesting how silent Sony fannies get when it comes to threads like these. 😂

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#24 mrbojangles25
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@Zero_epyon said:

....Series X wins at loading speeds. PS5 takes 10 seconds longer to load.

But....but the fancy SSD!

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#25 Zero_epyon
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@mrbojangles25 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

....Series X wins at loading speeds. PS5 takes 10 seconds longer to load.

But....but the fancy SSD!

clearly, there's something wrong with the way this patch was made.

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@BassMan said:
@Pedro said:

That PS5 super ultra next gen that cannot be matched by PC SSD seems to be underperforming as of late. 😎 I was promised that nothing on the market can match it's performance, not even PCs. What happened?😂

The game wasn't dipped in the secret sauce. LOL

and clearly Digital Foundry is making it look worse than it actually is for the PS5 😉

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Where are my cows at? I don't want to be defending the ps5 on my own.

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@Zero_epyon said:

clearly, there's something wrong with the way this patch was made.

I was told that programming was not needed to take advantage of the absolutely insane RAW speed of the PS5 SSD. So, you are mistaken. 😎

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@ghost_of_phobos said:

So this is definitive proof that the Pro is still the only professional console in the market?

Yes, Sony also claimed it's the only console that can do reconstruction properly.

As Sony claims PS5 is a 4K - 8K console (so sucks at doing any other resolution than those)

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So when the PS5 is the better versions the cows say its a superior console, but when it loses its a bug lol.

These threads are bottom of the barrel garbage, how sad must you be to sit and watch people looking for for dips and shit, someone should tell DF and the OP to play games 🤣🤣🤣

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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:

clearly, there's something wrong with the way this patch was made.

I was told that programming was not needed to take advantage of the absolutely insane RAW speed of the PS5 SSD. So, you are mistaken. 😎

The ps5 doesn't fix bad programming. The ps5 upgrade is missing things that the ps4 pro have. That is CLEARLY bad programming.

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So when the PS5 is the better versions the cows say its a superior console, but when it loses its a bug lol.

These threads are bottom of the barrel garbage, how sad must you be to sit and watch people looking for for dips and shit, someone should tell DF and the OP to play games 🤣🤣🤣

The ps5 version are missing effects that's on the ps4 pro version. Now are you going to try to persuade me that the ps4 pro is a more capable machine than the ps5?

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@ermacness said:

The ps5 version are missing effects that's on the ps4 pro version. Now are you going to try to persuade me that the ps4 pro is a more capable machine than the ps5?

So it is missing stuff and it still running at a lower resolution than the Series X. Damn!

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@ermacness said:

The ps5 doesn't fix bad programming. The ps5 upgrade is missing things that the ps4 pro have. That is CLEARLY bad programming.

I guess it is only bad programming when it doesn't show the PS5 in a good light. 😎

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#35 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@Zero_epyon said:

clearly, there's something wrong with the way this patch was made.

I was told that programming was not needed to take advantage of the absolutely insane RAW speed of the PS5 SSD. So, you are mistaken. 😎

You were told wrong obviously.

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#36 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

The ps5 doesn't fix bad programming. The ps5 upgrade is missing things that the ps4 pro have. That is CLEARLY bad programming.

I guess it is only bad programming when it doesn't show the PS5 in a good light. 😎

Wait you think the PS5 isn't capable of volumetric fog and SSR? I know you're trolling but you can do better than that lol

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@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

The ps5 version are missing effects that's on the ps4 pro version. Now are you going to try to persuade me that the ps4 pro is a more capable machine than the ps5?

So it is missing stuff and it still running at a lower resolution than the Series X. Damn!

Damn that was brutal 🤣🤣🤣
Damn that was brutal 🤣🤣🤣

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@ermacness said:
@i_p_daily said:

So when the PS5 is the better versions the cows say its a superior console, but when it loses its a bug lol.

These threads are bottom of the barrel garbage, how sad must you be to sit and watch people looking for for dips and shit, someone should tell DF and the OP to play games 🤣🤣🤣

The ps5 version are missing effects that's on the ps4 pro version. Now are you going to try to persuade me that the ps4 pro is a more capable machine than the ps5?

My point still stands, when the PS5 is better, cows be like its more powerful, but when its not, its bugs, bad programming and the like.

And as the rest of my original states i dont give a ****, on who wins shit, play it or don't, arguing over frame drops is dumb shit.

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#39 Pedro  Online
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@Zero_epyon said:

You were told wrong obviously.

But the raw speed is double that of the Series X. How does programming affect the transfer rate?

@Zero_epyon said:

Wait you think the PS5 isn't capable of volumetric fog and SSR? I know you're trolling but you can do better than that lol

Missing features is not the same as bad programming. I suggest you learn the difference.

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#40 ermacness
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@i_p_daily said:
@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

The ps5 version are missing effects that's on the ps4 pro version. Now are you going to try to persuade me that the ps4 pro is a more capable machine than the ps5?

So it is missing stuff and it still running at a lower resolution than the Series X. Damn!

Damn that was brutal 🤣🤣🤣
Damn that was brutal 🤣🤣🤣

And this is the ps5 fault, how?

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#41 ermacness
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@i_p_daily said:
@ermacness said:
@i_p_daily said:

So when the PS5 is the better versions the cows say its a superior console, but when it loses its a bug lol.

These threads are bottom of the barrel garbage, how sad must you be to sit and watch people looking for for dips and shit, someone should tell DF and the OP to play games 🤣🤣🤣

The ps5 version are missing effects that's on the ps4 pro version. Now are you going to try to persuade me that the ps4 pro is a more capable machine than the ps5?

My point still stands, when the PS5 is better, cows be like its more powerful, but when its not, its bugs, bad programming and the like.

And as the rest of my original states i dont give a ****, on who wins shit, play it or don't, arguing over frame drops is dumb shit.

And what was lems rebuttal then?

"Wait until the correct tools are released, then we'll talk"

Also, most wasn't citing that the ps5 was more powerful, but instead clowning the XSX for having more power, and it not showing in games.

In this instance, it's clearly a bug, seeing that it's missing effects thare present in the pro version.

This is reaching big time.

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#42 ermacness
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Pedro said:
@ermacness said:

The ps5 doesn't fix bad programming. The ps5 upgrade is missing things that the ps4 pro have. That is CLEARLY bad programming.

I guess it is only bad programming when it doesn't show the PS5 in a good light. 😎

Wait you think the PS5 isn't capable of volumetric fog and SSR? I know you're trolling but you can do better than that lol

I try to give him the benefit of taking him serious, but now I don't know.

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#43 Zero_epyon
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@Pedro: so bugs are good programming? What point are you even trying to make? The PS4 had these features and this patch removed them.

DF are puzzled as to how this was released. There’s no reason these features should be missing. Even if the frame rate dips below series x.

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#45  Edited By Eoten
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So basically now the game runs at the same settings on console I ran it at 2 years ago on PC when I got the game for free, tried it, then uninstalled it because I kept falling asleep while playing that boring AF shit.

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@girlusocrazy: Still pretending not to be a cow?

So easy to see through your act 😎

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@ermacness: Imagine if they added these missing parts in, it would tank the PS5 version even more, but in the end who gives a shit, not the people who are playing it regardless, so you can ease up on the PS5 damage control now as its getting embarrassing for you.

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@eoten: You know where the game shines? In co-op, i suggest you get some friend's and try it out.

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#49 Eoten
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@i_p_daily said:

@eoten: You know where the game shines? In co-op, i suggest you get some friend's and try it out.

I did, it's still the typical boring Ubi trash.

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@eoten said:
@i_p_daily said:

@eoten: You know where the game shines? In co-op, i suggest you get some friend's and try it out.

I did, it's still the typical boring Ubi trash.

Ah so you had a preconcieved notion going in, and just wanted to play it just so you could say its trash.

If Ubi make typical boring trash, why would you even play it, i think you didn't even play it and are one of "those people" who like to hate on Ubi, there's a few here who like to do that.