DF Series S - The next gen console we need :)

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#1 tdkmillsy
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Known about it for months

Smart delivery to give assets at resolution used

500gb an issue for all digital machine

8Gb tight for next gen

GPU - Broadly equivalent to Xbox One X with new features

Surprising to see price

1080p next gen machine for cheap price

Different but compelling strategy

Could work out well

Backward compatibility will be Xbox One not X but could run better

easier to scale GPU than CPU

Launch of Series S showed a bunch of games running on Series S with good frame rate

Question around 1440p games on series X running on S, maybe 720p/900p and how ray tracing will impact.

Microsoft need to show next gen stuff and this will be the test for S.

Good idea and positioning

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#2 Howmakewood
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I like how you replaced ? with :)

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#3 tdkmillsy
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@howmakewood said:

I like how you replaced ? with :)

Didn't take long for someone to notice :)

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#4 robert_sparkes
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I like the pricing of the system for what you get nobody can really argue with that my only worry with the system is the RAM especially when cross gen games are gone.

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Both Phony and Nintendont are doomed, no, really.

What's Apple up to these dayzz? :P

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#6 sakaiXx
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What the fk it cannot even run Xbox one X enhanced games? Damn that is terrible is this just a last gen update?

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#7 tdkmillsy
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@sakaixx said:

What the fk it cannot even run Xbox one X enhanced games? Damn that is terrible is this just a last gen update?

One X ran at 4k in games, this isn't designed to do that.

If you want 4k go X.

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#8 sakaiXx
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@tdkmillsy said:
@sakaixx said:

What the fk it cannot even run Xbox one X enhanced games? Damn that is terrible is this just a last gen update?

One X ran at 4k in games, this isn't designed to do that.

If you want 4k go X.

Too bad. Starting to not like the system limitations.

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#9 Archangel3371
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Yeah I watched that last night. Pretty good video. Not the system for me but I do think that it’s an interesting and smart strategy on Microsoft’s part. I’m interested in seeing more analysis and breakdowns of the system and game performance in the future.

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#10 Bond007uk
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@tdkmillsy said:
@sakaixx said:

What the fk it cannot even run Xbox one X enhanced games? Damn that is terrible is this just a last gen update?

One X ran at 4k in games, this isn't designed to do that.

If you want 4k go X.

It can't do X enhanced because as another cost saver, it only has 8 GB RAM.

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#11 tdkmillsy
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@sakaixx said:
@tdkmillsy said:
@sakaixx said:

What the fk it cannot even run Xbox one X enhanced games? Damn that is terrible is this just a last gen update?

One X ran at 4k in games, this isn't designed to do that.

If you want 4k go X.

Too bad. Starting to not like the system limitations.

Have to say there is certainly some questions about how well it will perform but to keep it that low a price I guess they had to make cuts.

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#12 blueinheaven
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I think the Series S exists at such a low price just to force people to buy their games from the MS store. There's going to be a shit ton of buyers remorse when people take their console home and stare in disbelief at the insanely overpriced games on the MS store knowing there's nowhere else to get them. I can see a lot of day one returns.

Until digital prices come down people will still want the option to buy discs. But MS are much, much worse for this than Sony who regularly have actual sales with great prices, as opposed to MS sales that basically reduce prices down to what other people are selling at for a brief period.

Series S is not the bargain everyone thinks it is unless you don't plan on buying any games for it. If you're happy sticking to Game Pass and ignoring big AAA releases there might be some merit in it but I don't know any gamers who would be happy with that.

Waiting for a price drop isn't a strategy you can use here either, digital titles don't lose value over time anywhere near as quickly as disc based games do.

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#13  Edited By Ant_17
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Df have been proven xbox shills so no thanks.

Call when they shit on the ps5

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#14 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

Df have been proven xbox shills so no thanks.

Call when they shit on the ps5

LOLOLOL after all the pro PS4 comparisons they're Xbox shills? You cows are delusional. Next thing you know you'll be calling GS Xbox shills. You're a sad individual

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#15  Edited By Ant_17
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@kingtito: like I said, call me when they shit on the ps5. Don't care for the dick sucking they are doing on phil now.

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#16 kingtito
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@kingtito: like I said, call me when they shit on the ps5. Don't care for the dick sucking they are doing on phil now.

But you're ok with it when they were doing all that sucking on the PS4? The word of the day boys and girls is.......snowflake. Can you use snowflake in a sentence?

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#17 Ant_17
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@kingtito: they have never done it. They have had bonex in their mouth all the time.

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#18  Edited By Nonstop-Madness
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Doesn't "Smart delivery to give assets at resolution used" confirm that its *not* a XSX experience at a lower display resolution?

It'll be lower quality graphics at a lower resolution.

(I have no problem with that but, it needs to be made clear so folks don't just think they'll get the same graphics at a lower resolution.)

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@blueinheaven: true - I don't understand why MS store prices are so bad. At least on PC. Sales are rare and usually trash (good FH3 closeout sale right now though, for those looking).

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#20 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Archangel3371 said:

Yeah I watched that last night. Pretty good video. Not the system for me but I do think that it’s an interesting and smart strategy on Microsoft’s part. I’m interested in seeing more analysis and breakdowns of the system and game performance in the future.

It's actually made for people like you who still play on 1080p TV's. If you buy an XSX you're throwing $200 extra away on benefits you'll never see.

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#21 Archangel3371
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Thanks for your concern but I’m still going to go with the Xbox Series X. 😁

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#22 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: they have never done it. They have had bonex in their mouth all the time.

Of course they have. They were all up on Sony's nuts....until the X1X showed up. I guess the X1X being the most powerful console and proving it with mutliplats is shilling for MS. S-N-O-W-F-L-A-K-E

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#23 hardwenzen
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I love how they mention the current economy and then be all positive about the S because of its low price point. If you're low on cash, stick to your current console. Like seriously. At first they were impressed with the CoD RT which looked welfare level, and now this. DF is drunk right now.

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#24 Ant_17
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@kingtito: and now they shill the weakest console cause its xbox. Fucking shills.

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#25 NathanDrakeSwag
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@Archangel3371 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: Thanks for your concern but I’m still going to go with the Xbox Series X. 😁

Cool. Have fun with no exclusives for at least 2 years and playing inferior versions of multiplats on your Walmart TV.

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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: and now they shill the weakest console cause its xbox. Fucking shills.

So true dude they should put a xbox logo on the DF site and a picture of Phil. DF needs to stop praising the Series S so much the system looks horrible on paper to me as a gamer. Its just another puff piece by DF tbh.

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#27 Pedro
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@NathanDrakeSwag: You so salty.🤣

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#28 Archangel3371
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Why so bitter and sad bro? 😅

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#29 Pedro
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@Archangel3371: He games on the PS4 that's why.😂

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#30 Archangel3371
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@Pedro: Well now that makes sense. It does seem to be the common denominator after all in proportion to one’s bitterness. 🤔😅

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@sakaixx: If you regularly peruse gaming forums, as in reading these words right now, the S is not really meant for you. It's a low cost, entry level system aimed at casuals.

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#32 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: and now they shill the weakest console cause its xbox. Fucking shills.

Riiigghttttt, that or you're just a easily asshurt snowflake whining and crying because an Xbox console is getting some attention. Did you need EVERY single company in the industry to blindly praise everything Sony? Sounds like it. Talk about being a pathetic fanboy. Now I KNOW you aint getting any sleep.

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#33 Ant_17
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@kingtito: good one. Who is the fanboy getting defensive over me calling them biased towards xbox?

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#34 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: good one. Who is the fanboy getting defensive over me calling them biased towards xbox?

Pointing out your hypocrisy. I guess you don't see that though huh? You only see the "disrespect" towards Sony.

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#35 Ant_17
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@kingtito: I just know how bias works. Just watch them nitpick the ps5.

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#36  Edited By sakaiXx
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@judaspete said:

@sakaixx: If you regularly peruse gaming forums, as in reading these words right now, the S is not really meant for you. It's a low cost, entry level system aimed at casuals.

I disagree. I thought Series S could make for a good purchase for non xbox users like me. Too bad its too weak.

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#37 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: I just know how bias works. Just watch them nitpick the ps5.

They're not biased. They call out both companies not just Sony.

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#38 Ant_17
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@kingtito: sure sure. keep telling yourself that. Halo only had shadow issues, lol.

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#39 kuu2
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Interesting that Sony's vaunted demo ran at 1440P.

Can't wait for this new generation.

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#40 Phlop_Spencer
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@kuu2: can you point to a game on xbone series x with better graphical fidelity? Didn’t think so

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#41 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: sure sure. keep telling yourself that. Halo only had shadow issues, lol.

You keep crying biased by a company that was shilling Sony not that long ago. Not sleeping is causing paranoia for sure. Don't worry I'm sure you'll have sales to fall back on next gen.

Oh speaking of shilling, do you think GS shills for Sony?

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#42 Ant_17
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@kingtito: no. They gave low scores to tlou2 and ghost. But I'll take a low score from gs then a 9 from ign

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#43  Edited By kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: no. They gave low scores to tlou2 and ghost. But I'll take a low score from gs then a 9 from ign

They give lower scores for every MS game and generally higher scores for every Sony. Don't lie dude, GS is a Sony shill and has been all gen.

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#45 Ant_17
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@kingtito: so forza is not a Ms game? Or ori? Try again.

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#46 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: so forza is not a Ms game? Or ori? Try again.

Dude exceptions not the rule. You DO understand how that works right? They've been shilling for Sony all gen or am I being paranoid? Hmm sounds familiar doesn't it?

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#47 Ant_17
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@kingtito: except I don't care for your paranoia.

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#48 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: except I don't care for your paranoia.

You should care for your own. I was making a point, one that flew right over your head. What I'm saying is a ludicrous and what you're saying about DF. Come one dude try to keep up

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#49 Ant_17
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@kingtito: mine is more valid since it has more proof. If gs has a bias for Sony that's your problem to solve.

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#50 kingtito
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@Ant_17 said:

@kingtito: mine is more valid since it has more proof. If gs has a bias for Sony that's your problem to solve.

LOL no it's not. It's paranoia plain and simple and you have NO proof except your own thoughts.

Uhhhh I used GS to show how stupid and paranoid you sound. Do I care if they have a bias or not? Nope and do you know how you can tell? Because I'm not on here crying about GS being a Sony shill. Can't say the same for you and DF though now can we.

What's your address? I'll send you a few boxes or tissues and some Ambien.