DF: Rise of the Tomb Raider: Xbox One X vs PS4 Pro First Look Graphics Comparison!

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  • Has the same modes the PS4 Pro has: 4K, Framerate, and Enrichment mode
  • 4K/30 on X1X is Native on the 4K mode
  • Textures are sharped and more detailed than PS4 Pro
  • DOF is dialed back on the X1X version. DF believes this was done to highlight the resolution bump
  • Textures appear to match the PC's highest texture settings
  • Texture filtering is improved
  • Unlikely that X1X is using all PC features to the highest settings.
  • The Enriched mode uses a reconstruction technique like checkerboarding to get enhanced visuals while constructing a 4K image
  • The PS4 Pro Enrichment mode sticks to 1080p when enhancing the image
  • High Framerate mode was very good
  • Comparing a scene to PS4 Pro shows that 60fps is an easier target to hit on X1X. More tests needed.
  • Framerate mode uses Nearest Scaling 1080p which games sharper upscaling but more pixelation
  • The game is looking polished on X1X and is on its way to become the best console version.
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#2 DaVillain-  Moderator
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The texture detail at 4K is stunning, especially on Lara, specifically her facial details compared to PRO. Despite I play Rise of the Tomb Raider on PC, the Xbox One X version does has sharper lighting going for.

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#3  Edited By I_P_Daily
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Ok.

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#4  Edited By Primorandomguy
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I'm just happy for the higher frame rate mode.

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#5 tormentos
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XBO 4k 30FPS

vs

But but but but higher bandwidth lower cache 1070GTX equivalent forza wet track...

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#6 kuu2
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Choices are good.

Still don't know if I will buy this game unless I get a smoking deal on it.

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Nice a new texture pack for a two year old game.

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#8  Edited By LemmingSlayer
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The Lemmings were owned ITT.

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@tormentos: The closer we get to release, we will see Ron get more desperate and Kuu get a little more crazy. If only they had kept their expectations realistic, they could be enjoying the hype and excitement of the Xbox One X's upcoming launch like the rest of us. I'm preorderd and ready to go! And without all the egg on my face.

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Obviously it should be known that you won't get all of the PC versions highest settings. There will be compromises made to achieve this native 4K resolution. However, that being said, it is impressive to see the Xbox one X achieve this kind of quality for a 500 dollar box. Microsoft has to be taking a decent hit on this system considering the technology implemented. I still stand that this is the best system Microsoft has made since the original Xbox.

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So the xbox one x has about the same power of GTX1070, not bad.

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#13 Zero_epyon
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@lemmingslayer said:

The Lemmings were owned ITT.

How?

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@xboxiphoneps3 said:
@tormentos said:

XBO 4k 30FPS

vs

But but but but higher bandwidth lower cache 1070GTX equivalent forza wet track...

Game is V-sync capped at 30 FPS at 4K, for all we know it can probably push up into the 40's FPS wise but a locked, steady, no frame pacing 30 FPS is smoother then varying frame-rate between 30's and 40's

He is right you know. When a game is locked it is hard to compare it to charts that are showing unlocked FPS. Not saying this thing is close to a 1070, but it would of been nice if they would of allowed for an unlocked FPS mode so we could see how it really compared. Still impressive that a 500 box is running this game so well though.

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Xbox One X, baby.

Can't wait.

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@Xabiss said:
@xboxiphoneps3 said:
@tormentos said:

XBO 4k 30FPS

vs

But but but but higher bandwidth lower cache 1070GTX equivalent forza wet track...

Game is V-sync capped at 30 FPS at 4K, for all we know it can probably push up into the 40's FPS wise but a locked, steady, no frame pacing 30 FPS is smoother then varying frame-rate between 30's and 40's

He is right you know. When a game is locked it is hard to compare it to charts that are showing unlocked FPS. Not saying this thing is close to a 1070, but it would of been nice if they would of allowed for an unlocked FPS mode so we could see how it really compared. Still impressive that a 500 box is running this game so well though.

The cheapest Gtx1070 i can find is 430 Euros online, and the x is only 500 Euros!

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#18  Edited By EndofAugust
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Look at the comments for the video, the Sony fanatics are melting down all over the place.

@loe12k said:
@Xabiss said:
@xboxiphoneps3 said:
@tormentos said:

XBO 4k 30FPS

vs

But but but but higher bandwidth lower cache 1070GTX equivalent forza wet track...

Game is V-sync capped at 30 FPS at 4K, for all we know it can probably push up into the 40's FPS wise but a locked, steady, no frame pacing 30 FPS is smoother then varying frame-rate between 30's and 40's

He is right you know. When a game is locked it is hard to compare it to charts that are showing unlocked FPS. Not saying this thing is close to a 1070, but it would of been nice if they would of allowed for an unlocked FPS mode so we could see how it really compared. Still impressive that a 500 box is running this game so well though.

The cheapest Gtx1070 i can find is 430 Euros online, and the x is only 500 Euros!

You'll no doubt be able to find a mouse, mousepad, keyboard, motherboard, CPU, RAM, PSU, HDD and a case for 70 Euro's.

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That it?

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#20  Edited By kuu2
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@goldenelementxl said:

@tormentos: The closer we get to release, we will see Ron get more desperate and Kuu get a little more crazy. If only they had kept their expectations realistic, they could be enjoying the hype and excitement of the Xbox One X's upcoming launch like the rest of us. I'm preorderd and ready to go! And without all the egg on my face.

I have zero idea what you are talking about.

Not only has The One X delivered it has proven your foolish assertions wrong at every turn. Partnering with El Tomato shows how desperate you are.

Stay salty my friend.

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#21  Edited By mowgly1
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I noticed a lot of shimmering when game is in 4k checkerboard mode on XboneX compared to PS4 Pro checkerboard. Looks like checkerboard technique isn't that good on XboneX like on Pro.

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#22  Edited By EndofAugust
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@mowgly1 said:

I noticed a lot of shimmering when game is in 4k checkerboard mode on XboneX compared to PS4 Pro checkerboard. Looks like checkerboard technique isn't that good on XboneX like on Pro.

LMAO, did you even listen to what is being said.

On Xbox One X there's a fully native 4K mode and then there is an enriched mode with PC very high level settings which uses temporal reconstruction to hit 4K, it's not shimmering either, it's a flicker and not a problem at normal viewing distances.

On the PlayStation 4 the 4K mode is half of a 4K render with checkerboarding (1920x2160), the enriched mode on PS4 Pro is 1080p...

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They kinda look exactly alike ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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They look......exactly the same. I mean, really. I don't see a difference at all?

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#26 EndofAugust
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@reduc_ab_ said:

They look......exactly the same. I mean, really. I don't see a difference at all?

It's pretty clear, the clarity is much better and the texture resolution is considerably higher. The Pro version looks soft because of its lower render resolution and the textures are a muddled.

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#27  Edited By ellos
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@Xabiss said:
@xboxiphoneps3 said:
@tormentos said:

XBO 4k 30FPS

vs

But but but but higher bandwidth lower cache 1070GTX equivalent forza wet track...

Game is V-sync capped at 30 FPS at 4K, for all we know it can probably push up into the 40's FPS wise but a locked, steady, no frame pacing 30 FPS is smoother then varying frame-rate between 30's and 40's

He is right you know. When a game is locked it is hard to compare it to charts that are showing unlocked FPS. Not saying this thing is close to a 1070, but it would of been nice if they would of allowed for an unlocked FPS mode so we could see how it really compared. Still impressive that a 500 box is running this game so well though.

Its locked but as they suggested it is unlikely using all the pc highest settings. That is the difference we can speculate from these charts. My guess is it will be just behind 1070 which again very impressive.

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#28  Edited By EndofAugust
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@mowgly1 said:

@endofaugust:

Dumb Xbone idiot! XboneX version also has 4k checkerboard mode ( Enriched mode ). Read the article, watch the video.

You just proved how Xbone fan is dumb.

Really, sooner the Xbone dies, the better.

  • The High Resolution mode on PlayStation 4 Pro renders at 1920x2160 with checkerboard rendering to construct a 4K image. The Xbox One X renders this natively at 4K.
  • The Xbox One X version of Enriched Mode uses temporal reconstruction to build a 4K image, the PlayStation 4 Pro renders this mode at 1080p.
  • The High Framerate mode on PlayStation 4 Pro renders at 1080p and performance sinks into the high 40's and 50's, on the Xbox One X this same mode with the same operating parameters did not drop frames in same locations as tested.

The fact that you're comparing the Pro's High Resolution mode to the Xbox One X's Enriched Mode is absolutely hilarious, also it's just a flicker and still in development, and at normal viewing distances it's not noticeable as stated.

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#29  Edited By deactivated-5b883bb846c10
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The PS4 Pro got DUSTED and this is coming from a person who has been CLOWNING the Xbox brand a lot ever since their lackluster E3. Anyone denying this is just a butt hurt PS4 fan.

As clear as day.

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#30  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@endofaugust said:
@mowgly1 said:

I noticed a lot of shimmering when game is in 4k checkerboard mode on XboneX compared to PS4 Pro checkerboard. Looks like checkerboard technique isn't that good on XboneX like on Pro.

LMAO, did you even listen to what is being said.

On Xbox One X there's a fully native 4K mode and then there is an enriched mode with PC very high level settings which uses temporal reconstruction to hit 4K, it's not shimmering either, it's a flicker and not a problem at normal viewing distances.

On the PlayStation 4 the 4K mode is half of a 4K render with checkerboarding (1920x2160), the enriched mode on PS4 Pro is 1080p...

X1X's Enriched mode is using a reconstruction technique similar to checkerboarding. The output is a 4K image, even though it's not native. This is a step up from PS4 Pro's native 1080p in Enriched mode. So I was actually right when I said that you weren't getting native 4K on top of the enrichment.

However, you're getting a 4K output over a 1080p output so that's still a plus.

@mowgly1 They went with their own reconstruction technique, but it doesn't mean that checkerboarding is worse on Xbox One X. Just that whatever they used isn't.

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@blessedbyhorus said:

The PS4 Pro got DUSTED and this is coming from a person who has been CLOWNING the Xbox brand a lot ever since their lackluster E3. Anyone denying this is just a butt hurt PS4 fan.

As clear as day.

The power X1X pack is ridiculous for the price.

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Damn, Xbox X just destroys it.

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#33  Edited By GoldenElementXL
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@kuu2 said:
@goldenelementxl said:

@tormentos: The closer we get to release, we will see Ron get more desperate and Kuu get a little more crazy. If only they had kept their expectations realistic, they could be enjoying the hype and excitement of the Xbox One X's upcoming launch like the rest of us. I'm preorderd and ready to go! And without all the egg on my face.

I have zero idea what you are talking about.

Not only has The One X delivered it has proven your foolish assertions wrong at every turn. Partnering with El Tomato shows how desperate you are.

Stay salty my friend.

You have zero idea... Really? So the Xbox One X has delivered to your expectations 100% to this point? You haven't had to walk anything back?





Your name has come up a few times when I've played games with folks on this board. Some folks that have chatted with you on a personal level say things like, "Kenny seems like such a reasonable guy, I'm not sure why he's such a lunatic on System Wars.

Maybe it's time to register the username "Kuu3" because the one you're using now has ZERO credibility in SW.

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@Legend002 said:
@blessedbyhorus said:

The PS4 Pro got DUSTED and this is coming from a person who has been CLOWNING the Xbox brand a lot ever since their lackluster E3. Anyone denying this is just a butt hurt PS4 fan.

As clear as day.

The power X1X pack is ridiculous for the price.

@mowgly1 stating it's not as good as the Pro...lmfao. And then @reduc_ab_ says it looks exactly the same...lmfao. When cows are delusional...they are DELUSIONAL.

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@endofaugust: Once again. We have a conversation, and you act like it never happened. Why are you talking to me?

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There are times that the difference is staggering. I'm glad I bought this game on the Xbox One and then didn't play it. XOX Definitive version confirmed!!!

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@reduc_ab_ said:

@endofaugust: Once again. We have a conversation, and you act like it never happened. Why are you talking to me?

I'm being cordial, and I countered your post. Stop trying to divert discussions off into a tangent.

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1) It's not direct recorded input, we have no idea if it runs at a stable 30 fps

2) We don't know if it always runs in 4k, or if the resolution will drop in heavy combat

3) It's clear that it's not the top settings of what PC brings, as DOF is scaled back drastically. which means there probably will be sacrifices

4) A 1070 which has more performance has lows as 31, which means sacrifices on the xbox one version will be made to keep performance up

5) It's not a good showcase that even a old game has to go through a development process to make it run through the scorpio as we most likely won't see much people follow this process. ( this has been proved on other platforms / sony/ nintendo ) countless of times already. which means most of the time the gpu just isn't doing much.

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#39  Edited By deactivated-5c0b07b32bf03
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@endofaugust: You straight up asked me to stop talking to you, and I said great, as long as you stop talking to me, and you agreed. And now you're talking to me.

Okay, okay. If you're being cordial honestly.... okay. Just be nice, k? That's my only thing. Just be nice to me dude.

About the video. I really don't see the difference between the two games, but it may be due to the video player. I mean, I know the X1X is running at higher settings. I just don't see a drastic difference.

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#40  Edited By EndofAugust
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@Gatygun said:

1) It's not direct recorded input, we have no idea if it runs at a stable 30 fps

2) We don't know if it always runs in 4k, or if the resolution will drop in heavy combat

3) It's clear that it's not the top settings of what PC brings, as DOF is scaled back drastically. which means there probably will be sacrifices

4) A 1070 which has more performance has lows as 31, which means sacrifices on the xbox one version will be made to keep performance up

5) It's not a good showcase that even a old game has to go through a development process to make it run through the scorpio as we most likely won't see much people follow this process. ( this has been proved on other platforms / sony/ nintendo ) countless of times already. which means most of the time the gpu just isn't doing much.

This post seems like an exorbitant reach hoping for something to fall short, not any type of real take away from what was actually shown and talked about, but reaching for controversy.

Also the DoF was likely as DF had stated, removed to showcase the texture work and higher resolution in the trailer.

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@Gatygun said:

1) It's not direct recorded input, we have no idea if it runs at a stable 30 fps

2) We don't know if it always runs in 4k, or if the resolution will drop in heavy combat

3) It's clear that it's not the top settings of what PC brings, as DOF is scaled back drastically. which means there probably will be sacrifices

4) A 1070 which has more performance has lows as 31, which means sacrifices on the xbox one version will be made to keep performance up

5) It's not a good showcase that even a old game has to go through a development process to make it run through the scorpio as we most likely won't see much people follow this process. ( this has been proved on other platforms / sony/ nintendo ) countless of times already. which means most of the time the gpu just isn't doing much.

1) True but it's certainly not impossible. Especially with certain settings turned down like you suggest in other points

2) Dev would have said it's a dynamic 4K game. Instead they're calling it native. They know the distinction.

3) True and Expected

4) Also true and expected

5) This is likely not a simple settings change a texture pack. They had to work those settings into the game and change the renderer from checkerboard to native 4K. On top of that they had to implement their own reconstruction technique to support enriched 4K. Time will tell though.

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#42 Gatygun
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@endofaugust said:
@Gatygun said:

1) It's not direct recorded input, we have no idea if it runs at a stable 30 fps

2) We don't know if it always runs in 4k, or if the resolution will drop in heavy combat

3) It's clear that it's not the top settings of what PC brings, as DOF is scaled back drastically. which means there probably will be sacrifices

4) A 1070 which has more performance has lows as 31, which means sacrifices on the xbox one version will be made to keep performance up

5) It's not a good showcase that even a old game has to go through a development process to make it run through the scorpio as we most likely won't see much people follow this process. ( this has been proved on other platforms / sony/ nintendo ) countless of times already. which means most of the time the gpu just isn't doing much.

This post seems like an exorbitant reach hoping for something to fall short, not any type of real take away from what was actually shown and talked about, but reaching for controversy.

Also the DoF was likely as DF had stated, removed to showcase the texture work and higher resolution in the trailer.

Guess you don't know what reaching means.

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#43  Edited By EndofAugust
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@Gatygun said:
@endofaugust said:
@Gatygun said:

1) It's not direct recorded input, we have no idea if it runs at a stable 30 fps

2) We don't know if it always runs in 4k, or if the resolution will drop in heavy combat

3) It's clear that it's not the top settings of what PC brings, as DOF is scaled back drastically. which means there probably will be sacrifices

4) A 1070 which has more performance has lows as 31, which means sacrifices on the xbox one version will be made to keep performance up

5) It's not a good showcase that even a old game has to go through a development process to make it run through the scorpio as we most likely won't see much people follow this process. ( this has been proved on other platforms / sony/ nintendo ) countless of times already. which means most of the time the gpu just isn't doing much.

This post seems like an exorbitant reach hoping for something to fall short, not any type of real take away from what was actually shown and talked about, but reaching for controversy.

Also the DoF was likely as DF had stated, removed to showcase the texture work and higher resolution in the trailer.

Guess you don't know what reaching means.

Of course I do, everything you're saying has a negative connotation attached to it and it appears as if you're hoping for something to fall short. There's not an ounce of positivity or objectivity in a word you've stated, it's all lingering and predicated on something going wrong.

You're reaching a mile out.

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#44 xantufrog  Moderator
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That texture quality bump is the big one for me - I think the 1800p vs 4k business is not going to be a big factor at all except in close side-by-side comparisons. But the texture quality is really mediocre on the Pro, and you can see the difference in that pretty nicely in the X1X images

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#45  Edited By iandizion713
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Wrong thread, sorry.

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#46 hrt_rulz01
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Lol, the usual delusional cows trying their defense tactics. Hilarious.

Anyway, looking good. Bring on Nov 7!

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#47  Edited By EndofAugust
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@xantufrog said:

That texture quality bump is the big one for me - I think the 1800p vs 4k business is not going to be a big factor at all except in close side-by-side comparisons. But the texture quality is really mediocre on the Pro, and you can see the difference in that pretty nicely in the X1X images

It's not 1800p, it's 1920x2160 checkerboarding to 3840x2160, it's a half 4K or double 1080p render the same as Horizon Zero Dawn. Also most of the Pro games that are "1800p" are not actually proper 1800p, they're 1600x1800 checkerboarding to 3200x1800 and then using traditional upscaling from there on out to reach their output.

There's a pretty meaty difference.

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#48  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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@endofaugust: oh, well whatever - the point is in the side-by-sides the effect of the resolution side of things is more or less just a slightly softer picture. Same thing we've been seeing for ages with the other non-native res examples on different platforms. But the texture quality difference is pretty night and day - something you can appreciate more on its own when we aren't looking at side-by-sides

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#49 JoshRMeyer
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@endofaugust: The Pro actually looks better in that pic you posted. Pro has a better depth of field. Xbox has too much focus in the background, but better textures up close. It does look slightly better on the X, but not nearly enough difference for $100+ and a year release later.

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#50  Edited By EndofAugust
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@xantufrog said:

@endofaugust: oh, well whatever - the point is in the side-by-sides the effect of the resolution side of things is more or less just a slightly softer picture. Same thing we've been seeing for ages with the other non-native res examples on different platforms. But the texture quality difference is pretty night and day - something you can appreciate more on its own when we aren't looking at side-by-sides

Textures do make a big difference, also don't forget this system will force 16x Anisotropic Filtering so you'll actually be able to see them properly and they won't fall off and muddle at distance, another thing the Pro does not do.