DF: Fortnite Xbox One X Delivers a Big Visual Upgrade... But What About Performance?

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#1  Edited By Zero_epyon
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  • Pro: 1080p close to PC Epic settings X: 1728p full PC Epic settings
  • Texture filtering is upgraded on X
  • Post Processing, shadows and lighting is superb on X, matching PC's epic settings
  • Shadow casting lights are also increased on X over the Pro
  • X has a better DOF and Motion Blur implementation
  • Some textures are of higher quality on X
  • Reflections are also improved on X but not always obvious
  • Pro operates at a mostly 30fps on both PvE and PvP
  • X on PvE can drop to 20 fps when encounters become larger
  • Gameplay is impacted by drops and stutters when gameplay heats up
  • May need an additional patch to iron out the frame rate drops on X
  • X performs at a locked 30fps on PvP
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Summary: X is the much better version, but has a few frame drops that will be improved with a patch :)

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#3  Edited By kingtito
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Summary: X is the much better version, but has a few frame drops that will be improved with a patch :)

Some how I think cow_epyon is going to turn this into a negative....oh wait

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#4  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@kingtito said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Summary: X is the much better version, but has a few frame drops that will be improved with a patch :)

Some how I think cow_epyon is going to turn this into a negative....oh wait

I didn't do anything. Be mad at DF.

I mean would you rather me try to spin frame rate drops into the 20's into a positive? How would I even do that?

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So not native 4K.

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Fun game.

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Lol I play this game on pc, ps4, and Xbox one x depending on who I'm playing with.

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#8  Edited By lexxluger
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"Renders out at 1728P...drops as low as 20 frames per second..."

This is less than native 4k right? Xbox fans said Xbox one X was equivalent to a 1070?

Anyone have the stats for what the 1070 put out in 4k at the same setting?

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Lol, Fortnight.....who cares

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Summary: X is the much better version, but has a few frame drops that will be improved with a patch :)

"in gameplay terms PS4 pro delivers the better experience"

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@drlostrib said:
@hrt_rulz01 said:

Summary: X is the much better version, but has a few frame drops that will be improved with a patch :)

"in gameplay terms PS4 pro delivers the better experience"

For a game with this graphic style, it seems pretty demanding on all systems.

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#12  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@lexxluger said:

"Renders out at 1728P...drops as low as 20 frames per second..."

This is less than native 4k right? Xbox fans said Xbox one X was equivalent to a 1070?

Anyone have the stats for what the 1070 put out in 4k at the same setting?

Loading Video...

Not the 1070, but you'll get the picture.

A 1060 does 4K Epic settings and minimum drops to 32fps.

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This game is still “early access” so things can and will get better by release. But since the Xbox One X is the most powerful console, it has a higher chance on getting more enchancements than the Pro. I’m pretty sure DF will update their findings when that happens.

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#14 Zero_epyon
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@gago-gago said:

This game is still “early access” so things can and will get better by release. But since the Xbox One X is the most powerful console, it has a higher chance on getting more enchancements than the Pro. I’m pretty sure DF will update their findings when that happens.

True. I expect them to focus more on the performance first though. I remember playing this on Pro a while ago and the performance was all over the place. Now it's super smooth. And after that, they started adding visual enhancements.

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@Zero_epyon said:
@lexxluger said:

"Renders out at 1728P...drops as low as 20 frames per second..."

This is less than native 4k right? Xbox fans said Xbox one X was equivalent to a 1070?

Anyone have the stats for what the 1070 put out in 4k at the same setting?

Loading Video...

Not the 1070, but you'll get the picture.

A 1060 does 4K Epic settings and minimum drops to 32fps.

Minimum 32fps at 4k on 1060?

Ouch!

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^ ^ ? Doesn’t even hit 4K and drops to the 20s. Wasn’t this one of the games lems were using to say the X1X was equivalent to a 1070. It can’t even perform on the same level as a 1060.

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Good to hear, played the game a lot on release and loved it, been meaning to get back into it at some point but there is just too much on my plate. It's good of them to come out with something soon after the X launch and for the holidays, hopefully gets ironed out further as the game gets into full release mode and as more time is spent optimising on the X.

Some devs are taking longer for their support, for instance Forza Horizon 3 is getting X-Enhanced mid -January, I have to assume that it is the time they need to get it right for the flagship racer of the XOne, or they simply could be busy with other stuff and couldn't deliver it on time... maybe they just want us to focus on FM7 for now.... who really knows but I'm having a great time diving back into these games and checking out all the various improvements.

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Man I just love my X just like my Switch and Pro. Such a great time to be a gamer!

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@lexxluger: Which Xbox fans, outside of maybe Ron, said that the Xbox One X was going to do 1070 performance in every game?..

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@Alucard_Prime: Man, you're right some of these updates are taking quite a while to release.. I'm still checking everyday for that Witcher III patch.. I've been holding off on going all in on that game until the enhancements... Can't wait for that one :)

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@Antwan3K: Clowns like kuu2 were expecting 4K/60fps performance in most games which even exceeds what the 1070 or 1080Ti can do.

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TLHBO

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#23  Edited By Antwan3K
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@quadknight: Ok, if true, that's two.. Anyone else?. because saying "Xbox fans", implying a significant number of them and/or the majority of them, instead of simply saying Ron and Kuu2 are vastly different things..

That's like if i was constantly saying "all these cows were hyping PSVR as the next big thing in gaming" when in reality it may have only been one or two people.. It's a misleading narrative, plain and simple..

As far as i can tell, most Xbox fans are simply glad that the Xbox One X is the most powerful Xbox console on the market and is winning matchups in comparison to the PS4 Pro.. It looks like its cows and/or hermits, not lemmings, that run into every Xbox One X related thread talking about 1070s..

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#24  Edited By QuadKnight
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@Antwan3K: There’s a lot more bro, I just can’t be bothered to go through SW history to find all of them. Even on other sites too there were a lot of fanboys comparing X1X to a GTX 1070/1080. It doesn’t bother me that X1X is the most powerful console around, it was inevitable. It costs a $100 more and is releasing a year after the Pro, only an idiot would expect a Pro to still hold a technical advantage. I just find it silly that some lems felt the need to compare it to high-end PCs.

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@drlostrib: Until the X version is inevitably patched.

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@quadknight said:

@Antwan3K: There’s a lot more bro, I just can’t be bothered to go through SW history to find all of them. Even on other sites too there were a lot of fanboys comparing X1X to a GTX 1070/1080. It doesn’t bother me that X1X is the most powerful console around, it was inevitable. It costs a $100 more and is releasing a year after the Pro, only an idiot would expect a Pro to still hold a technical advantage. I just find it silly that some lems felt the need to compare it to high-end PCs.

I go to a lot of forums and I still don't see a lot of people that compare the X to the power of a high end computer. Not saying there are not a few weirdos. Look at the guy on this forum who said a Chromebook could run PUBG at 60FPS. There are always those crazy ass folks on any forum.

Hell anyone with some common sense knows the X could not compare against high end computers. I don't believe we will ever see the times where consoles are more powerful or equal to PCs ever again. I kind of miss the days when consoles where not x86 and all ran custom hardware. It was always fun learning about all of the chips inside.

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#27  Edited By FLOPPAGE_50
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@Antwan3K: yeah im thrilled with my xbox, so glad I got it.

If that rusles some jimmies, so be it.

I only recall ron and DF talking about the 1070, but cows use this argument daily with all "lems"

I guess its the ammo they got now, but its such a silly argument because its still comparing a console to a PC

They can continue to use the more exclusves narrative, its currently a fact, but for some reason cows bring up the PC more than hermits themselves

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@Xabiss said:

I go to a lot of forums and I still don't see a lot of people that compare the X to the power of a high end computer. Not saying there are not a few weirdos. Look at the guy on this forum who said a Chromebook could run PUBG at 60FPS. There are always those crazy ass folks on any forum.

Hell anyone with some common sense knows the X could not compare against high end computers. I don't believe we will ever see the times where consoles are more powerful or equal to PCs ever again. I kind of miss the days when consoles where not x86 and all ran custom hardware. It was always fun learning about all of the chips inside.

I hardly pay attention to Xbox fanboys saying X is comparable to GTX 1070 but Ron was the only guy posting charts and a lot of BS that didn't make any sense. Kuu2 comes in seconds but he wasn't as bad as Ron so he's hardly any better and SecretPolice never mentions X a 1070 level and so with that, Ron was the main problem!

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#29  Edited By lexxluger
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@Xabiss said:

I go to a lot of forums and I still don't see a lot of people that compare the X to the power of a high end computer. Not saying there are not a few weirdos. Look at the guy on this forum who said a Chromebook could run PUBG at 60FPS. There are always those crazy ass folks on any forum.

Hell anyone with some common sense knows the X could not compare against high end computers....

Not saying that it needed to be as powerful as high end PC but the X was hyped for playing games native 4k by the bulk of xbox fans until the system released and started falling short of that mark.

That's pretty easy to prove with the meme created by xbox fans against PS fans on the Pro calling it the "faux k" machine because it couldn't hit a native 4k on all games like the Xbox one X was apparently supposed to do.

It was definatly more than a few xbox fans on that train before the system launched and reality set in...Ron just kept the dream alive longer than anyone else.

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@Antwan3K: yeah im thrilled with my xbox, so glad I got it.

If that rusles some jimmies, so be it.

I only recall ron and DF talking about the 1070, but cows use this argument daily with all "lems"

I guess its the ammo they got now, but its such a silly argument because its still comparing a console to a PC

They can continue to use the more exclusves narrative, its currently a fact, but for some reason cows bring up the PC more than hermits themselves

That's because PC gamers already know X1X isn't aiming for us PC gamers, this is for console gamers only. The only time you may see PC gamers getting involve is to come and correct misinformation when it comes to PC vs X1X specs, that's it.

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@Antwan3K: yeah I'm waiting for the patch before I go through the W3 DLC, but busy with Fallout 4 now for my RPG fix so it's all good. Today we got For Honor and Destiny 2 patched, so as long as they keep rolling out that stuff at a steady pace I'm good. Hopefully we get to see DOOM soon, been itching for a 2nd play through for a while now.

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Do people even play Fortnite? Seems like a PUBG wanabee.

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@needhealing: i know a ton of people who are obsessed with it

Doesnt even look that appealing tbh

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#34 DrLostRib
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@needhealing said:

Do people even play Fortnite? Seems like a PUBG wanabee.

The original game is like a survival-horde mode, but I believe they announced over 20 million users not too long ago

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@drlostrib said:
@needhealing said:

Do people even play Fortnite? Seems like a PUBG wanabee.

The original game is like a survival-horde mode, but I believe they announced over 20 million users not too long ago

Yeah I play the PvP quite often with my PS4 buddies. It's a fun game.

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@Antwan3K said:

@quadknight: Ok, if true, that's two.. Anyone else?. because saying "Xbox fans", implying a significant number of them and/or the majority of them, instead of simply saying Ron and Kuu2 are vastly different things..

That's like if i was constantly saying "all these cows were hyping PSVR as the next big thing in gaming" when in reality it may have only been one or two people.. It's a misleading narrative, plain and simple..

As far as i can tell, most Xbox fans are simply glad that the Xbox One X is the most powerful Xbox console on the market and is winning matchups in comparison to the PS4 Pro.. It looks like its cows and/or hermits, not lemmings, that run into every Xbox One X related thread talking about 1070s..

It actually used to be ron running into these threads with 1070 charts. Ron's been missing after more recent videos of certain titles he swore by fell short of his expectations. Let's not play dumb here. You know cows are talking about ron when they bring up the 1070.

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@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@needhealing: i know a ton of people who are obsessed with it

Doesnt even look that appealing tbh

Looking at this makes me rethink Sea of Thieves prospects, because I mean if THIS can have such a following...well Sea of Thieves certainly doesn't look any worse than this lol.

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#38  Edited By superbuuman
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In this case wonder why devs didn't just opt for 1080p for resolution like pro...with full PC epic detail settings..may have better framerate...not sure why opt for the weird 1728p resolution. :P Nevermind early access :P

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@lexxluger said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@needhealing: i know a ton of people who are obsessed with it

Doesnt even look that appealing tbh

Looking at this makes me rethink Sea of Thieves prospects, because I mean if THIS can have such a following...well Sea of Thieves certainly doesn't look any worse than this lol.

In all honesty, I don't care about either PUBG or Sea of Thieves... I'm not a MP guy :)

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@davillain- said:
@Xabiss said:

I go to a lot of forums and I still don't see a lot of people that compare the X to the power of a high end computer. Not saying there are not a few weirdos. Look at the guy on this forum who said a Chromebook could run PUBG at 60FPS. There are always those crazy ass folks on any forum.

Hell anyone with some common sense knows the X could not compare against high end computers. I don't believe we will ever see the times where consoles are more powerful or equal to PCs ever again. I kind of miss the days when consoles where not x86 and all ran custom hardware. It was always fun learning about all of the chips inside.

I hardly pay attention to Xbox fanboys saying X is comparable to GTX 1070 but Ron was the only guy posting charts and a lot of BS that didn't make any sense. Kuu2 comes in seconds but he wasn't as bad as Ron so he's hardly any better and SecretPolice never mentions X a 1070 level and so with that, Ron was the main problem!

I believe Ron did it so damn much it is just assumed all Lemmings did it. Hell with the amount of charts and BS that guy would lay in a thread it felt like all lemmings did it. ROFLMAO!

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@Xabiss said:
@davillain- said:
@Xabiss said:

I go to a lot of forums and I still don't see a lot of people that compare the X to the power of a high end computer. Not saying there are not a few weirdos. Look at the guy on this forum who said a Chromebook could run PUBG at 60FPS. There are always those crazy ass folks on any forum.

Hell anyone with some common sense knows the X could not compare against high end computers. I don't believe we will ever see the times where consoles are more powerful or equal to PCs ever again. I kind of miss the days when consoles where not x86 and all ran custom hardware. It was always fun learning about all of the chips inside.

I hardly pay attention to Xbox fanboys saying X is comparable to GTX 1070 but Ron was the only guy posting charts and a lot of BS that didn't make any sense. Kuu2 comes in seconds but he wasn't as bad as Ron so he's hardly any better and SecretPolice never mentions X a 1070 level and so with that, Ron was the main problem!

I believe Ron did it so damn much it is just assumed all Lemmings did it. Hell with the amount of charts and BS that guy would lay in a thread it felt like all lemmings did it. ROFLMAO!

The point is TCHBO a lot lately and they're up in arms about it. They can't deal with the beast.

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4K without compromising. Where's the class action?

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@tigerbalm said:

4K without compromising. Where's the class action?

I wanna pay $500 for uncompromised 4k @60 Ultra w HDR and 10 year life span or i'm calling my mommy, waaaaaaa!!!!!!!

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#44  Edited By Antwan3K
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@Zero_epyon: If cows are only talking about Ron, they should just address him and only him instead of making generalizations like "lems" and "Xbox fans".. Let's not play dumb here, we both know the later implies there were loads of people making that claim, not just one or two....

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#45 kuu2
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“Not final.”

“Pro had frame rate issues as well before the new patch.”

“The X version will probably be fixed in the final code.”

Another misleading post by the intellectually dishonest TC.

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@kuu2: I mentioned that it was in need of work, PS4 pro had frame pacing issues, not frame rate drops, irrelevant anyway since it's fixed, again mentioned that a new patch is needed. Do you even read bro?

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#47 Zero_epyon
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@Antwan3K: whatever you say. You always seem to be so offended. Are you a lem?

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#48 scatteh316
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  • Texture filtering is upgraded on X

No it's not... listen to what they say again...... higher sample rate due to resolution increase but filtering is the same.

But I do feel sorry for X owners, Microsoft spent so much time hyping this up to be a 'True 4k' - 'No compromise' machine that now developers feel that have to hit that and it's costing in the frame rate department.

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#49 tdkmillsy
Member since 2003 • 5816 Posts

@scatteh316 said:
  • Texture filtering is upgraded on X

No it's not... listen to what they say again...... higher sample rate due to resolution increase but filtering is the same.

But I do feel sorry for X owners, Microsoft spent so much time hyping this up to be a 'True 4k' - 'No compromise' machine that now developers feel that have to hit that and it's costing in the frame rate department.

I watched an advert for PS4 Pro last night. hyping it as a 4k gaming machine with no compromise at all.

Guess the developers did the same for PS4 Pro when it was released. Oh wait it was fixed in a patch, fancy that.