Destiny 2 Is Native 1080p On PS4 and Checkerboard 1080p On Xbox One

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#1  Edited By Mariolover5
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5zTIPhDx0&lc=z135xjyorufphn4nt222dx3g5pmav3n1u.1500649579731166

Digital foundry did an interesting video.

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#2 Telekill
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In before someone says "it doesn't matter because Destiny sucks "

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#3 PopGotcha
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@Telekill: Damn beat me to it

Destiny sucks.

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#4 Telekill
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@popgotcha: lol

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#6  Edited By stereointegrity
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glad checker boarding is being done on a broader spectrum now. glad to see xbone finally using it

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#7 VFighter
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Are there any games on the PS4 that use checker boarding, just curious if I've played a game using it and just didn't know it.

I know the pro uses it but I don't have a pro.

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#8 stereointegrity
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@vfighter said:

Are there any games on the PS4 that use checker boarding, just curious if I've played a game using it and just didn't know it.

I know the pro uses it but I don't have a pro.

as a pro owner i dont really notice it. even during horizon i cant really tell on edges unless i stand with in a foot of my tv (sony x850c)

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#9 hrt_rulz01
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@metalslimenite: Yeah XB1 X will have the best version... what's your point?

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#11 Primorandomguy
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@metalslimenite: Can you stop shitting on MS every chance you get for a minute? You're a cow.

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#13 hrt_rulz01
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@metalslimenite: Can you stop riding Sony's?

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#15 hrt_rulz01
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@metalslimenite: Definitely.

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#16  Edited By Diddies
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@hrt_rulz01: Actually PC will.

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#17 The-A-Baum
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Quantum Break was checkerboarded to 1080 and cows crapped all over it! Game never even got a fair shake. Pro is 99% checkerboard and it's all good?

Carry on

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#18 freedomfreak  Online
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It looks amazing.

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#20 Primorandomguy
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@freedomfreak: Damn that's one ugly game.

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#21  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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@metalslimenite: I've owned many different systems as well... its not like I'm a total Xbox fanboy.

But when every second thread on System Wars seems to be about MS/Xbox/XB1 X and is usually negative, it starts to get abit much. Surely you have to agree that we get ALOT more negative Xbox threads compared to any other brand.

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#22 navyguy21
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I really hope more devs use this on PS4 and Xbox One base models to improve frame rates and graphical fidelity so that they dont have to gimp the XBX and Pro versions.

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#24 jetray
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lol xbawks lol

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#25 Ryu_Silveira
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Damn guys...lol. This whole checkerboarding is serious huh! Hahaha...

And here I am waiting for Destiny 2 beta to hit PC :)

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#26 PinkAnimal
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The 1080Faux machine strikes again.

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#27 PinkAnimal
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@metalslimenite: I've owned many different systems as well... its not like I'm a total Xbox fanboy.

But when every second thread on System Wars seems to be about MS/Xbox/XB1 X and is usually negative, it starts to get abit much. Surely you have to agree that we get ALOT more negative Xbox threads compared to any other brand.

Maybe because Microsoft has been quite bad this gen. At the start of last gen when Sony made lots of mistakes the sentiment against Sony was pretty generalized too. Microsoft has to wake up and earn people's trust and support again. This is not a charity and lemmings shouldn't be asking for "safe spaces" for a company, they should be demanding their company does better. At least some have woken up and have started being critical of Microsoft which is a start.

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#28  Edited By tormentos
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@hrt_rulz01 said:

@metalslimenite: Yeah XB1 X will have the best version... what's your point?

No PC has the best version and free to play online.

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#29  Edited By kuu2
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Are Cows really starting and trumpeting a thread like this?

Suckers.

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#30 lrdfancypants
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This should be a good thing right?

I mean as games get more complex graphically for the X1X/Pro checkerboarding the base models would be welcome.

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#31 pyro1245
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Good thing any self-respecting gamer would never play an FPS with a controller.

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#32  Edited By kuu2
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After playing the beta for a couple hours I still don't see the attraction to this game. It is so generic and so souless. It comes off as a Borderlands with a lot less personality. Plays like Halo to me in too many ways. Plus the way Activision does DLC for this game really turns me off.

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#33 tormentos
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@kuu2 said:

Are Cows really starting and trumpeting a thread like this?

Suckers.

Wait are you damage controlling checkerboard on xbox one...Hahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

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#34 MooseWayne
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Looks great on both. But 30fps just to add more particle affects.

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#35 ShadowDeathX
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Uhhhh, did you guys not watch the video? No where was it mentioned that Destiny 2 on Xbox One uses Checker boarding.

They said that there is a dynamic resolution in place for the Xbox One version, with the horizontal resolution ranging from 1344 to the 1920 cap.

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#36  Edited By Tigerbalm
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Checkerboard and Time Travel Projection is all the rage.

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#37 kuu2
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So when does this backfire thread get changed or locked?

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@mariolover5 said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yX5zTIPhDx0&lc=z135xjyorufphn4nt222dx3g5pmav3n1u.1500649579731166

Digital foundry did an interesting video.

XBO has inferior hardware.

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#39 PinkAnimal
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@ShadowDeathX said:

Uhhhh, did you guys not watch the video? No where was it mentioned that Destiny 2 on Xbox One uses Checker boarding.

They said that there is a dynamic resolution in place for the Xbox One version, with the horizontal resolution ranging from 1344 to the 1920 cap.

That's even worse. Might as well start calling it FauxBone.

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#40 deactivated-5ea0704839e9e
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Wtf is checkerboard like the modern interlacing?

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@the-a-baum said:

Quantum Break was checkerboarded to 1080 and cows crapped all over it! Game never even got a fair shake. Pro is 99% checkerboard and it's all good?

Carry on

This.

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#42 kuu2
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Again when is this going to be locked or changed. It's not a checkerboard game it's dynamic and actually reaches 1080p.

Cows

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#43 DragonfireXZ95
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But I thought those were irrelevant now thanks to the Pro and 1X? lol :P

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@lhughey said:
@the-a-baum said:

Quantum Break was checkerboarded to 1080 and cows crapped all over it! Game never even got a fair shake. Pro is 99% checkerboard and it's all good?

Carry on

This.

Quantum Break was not checkerboarded.

DF: "Quantum Break's approach renders the game at 1280x720 with 4x MSAA while using four previous frames to reconstruct the image in such a way that resolution appears higher."

That's not what checkerboard is. Checkerboard takes a frame at a certain resolution, often 1800p and fills in the the rest of the frame with some complicated math and puts out an actual 4K frame.

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#45  Edited By ronvalencia
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@Zero_epyon said:
@lhughey said:
@the-a-baum said:

Quantum Break was checkerboarded to 1080 and cows crapped all over it! Game never even got a fair shake. Pro is 99% checkerboard and it's all good?

Carry on

This.

Quantum Break was not checkerboarded.

DF: "Quantum Break's approach renders the game at 1280x720 with 4x MSAA while using four previous frames to reconstruct the image in such a way that resolution appears higher."

That's not what checkerboard is. Checkerboard takes a frame at a certain resolution, often 1800p and fills in the the rest of the frame with some complicated math and puts out an actual 4K frame.

It's not complicated math since the processing cost for checkerboard's missing pixel is less than actual pixel render.

Checkerboard is just odd-even/even-odd neighboring color pixel fill averaging and extra data sampling can be gain by the previous frame.

Real checkerboard still has 4K framebuffer with odd-even/even-odd uncolored pixels.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1315968

For X1X, extra memory storage can increase image quality.

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#46 Howmakewood
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Checkerboarding can also use previous frames, so yes you could call Quantum Break checkerboarding as well, it's just a way to call image reconstruction really and not all implementations are the same.

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#47  Edited By CrashNBurn281
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Wait I am so confused now.

Is checkerboard bad or good now? One day it is a crappy shadow of the resolution it mimics, the other day you cannot tell the difference between checkerboarding and native resolution.

Maybe it is somewhere in between. Fanboys usually only tell halftruths to begin with.

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#48 PinkAnimal
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@kuu2 said:

Again when is this going to be locked or changed. It's not a checkerboard game it's dynamic and actually reaches 1080p.

Cows

All your threads should be locked then since you keep calling X1X games 4k when they're actually FauxK.

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#49 PinkAnimal
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@crashnburn281 said:

Wait I am so confused now.

Is checkerboard bad or good now? One day it is a crappy shadow of the resolution it mimics, the other day you cannot tell the difference between checkerboarding and native resolution.

Maybe it is somewhere in between. Fanboys usually only tell halftruths to begin with.

According to DF it is difficult to notice the differences between some types of checkerboarding like the ones Sony uses on their main titles and native 4k for example, unless you're a few feet away from the screen. So if the techniques make the games look good and actual power can be used to improve frames per second then I'll say it is good considering most people won't even notice the differences in resolution. Leave it to lemmings to call it FauxK when used by Sony but True4k when used by Microsoft though...

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#50 poptart
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@pinkanimal said:
@crashnburn281 said:

Wait I am so confused now.

Is checkerboard bad or good now? One day it is a crappy shadow of the resolution it mimics, the other day you cannot tell the difference between checkerboarding and native resolution.

Maybe it is somewhere in between. Fanboys usually only tell halftruths to begin with.

According to DF it is difficult to notice the differences between some types of checkerboarding like the ones Sony uses on their main titles and native 4k for example, unless you're a few feet away from the screen. So if the techniques make the games look good and actual power can be used to improve frames per second then I'll say it is good considering most people won't even notice the differences in resolution. Leave it to lemmings to call it FauxK when used by Sony but True4k when used by Microsoft though...

Sony uses true checkerboarding, unlike the One with its FauxBoard