Demon's Souls Digital Foundry analysis; next gen graphics king confirmed!

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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Damn, this game looks mighty good. I can't think of a better looking next gen game at the moment. If I were a Lem, I'd ask for a refund on my Xbox/GamePass preorder and invest in PS5 and Demon's Souls. What say you, SW? Is this impressive or what?

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#2 Pedro
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The game looks solid but I didn't really enjoy Demon Souls when it was on the PS3. I don't think that is going to change. I still want to try it but not for $70 🙃

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#3 ellos
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Looking good. It would easily be the game to get fore me but I'm in no rush to pick up new consoles. I might change my mind if they went all out and properly included the cut content.

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#4 LetsHaveFun
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So an upscaled 4K(1440p)/60 performance mode..

As long as it looks clean I'm totally up for it!!

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#5 Archangel3371
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Game definitely looks great for sure. This will probably be one of the first games that I pick up when I get a PS5.

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#6  Edited By PC_Rocks
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Cows really are having a hard 2020. In case people don't know, CP 2077 on PC exists and a remake by Bluepoint on a weak system has no chance. Not to mention the art direction of remake is inferior to original.

Also, LOL at 1440p on a next-gen system. So much for 8K and up to 120FPS.

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#7 sealionact
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@SolidGame_basic: Looks pretty good.....I'd try it if was on psnow, but 70 bucks for a remaster?.

Nah mate.

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#8 tdkmillsy
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1440p with limited/no ray tracing

true next gen performance on PS5

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@pc_rocks said:

Cows really are having a hard 2020. In case people don't know, CP 2077 on PC exists and a remake by Bluepoint on a weak system has no chance. Not to mention the art direction of remake is inferior to original.

Also, LOL at 1440p on a next-gen system. So much for 8K and up to 120FPS.

Good thing I can play both of those on PS5. No need for a PC 😇

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@tdkmillsy said:

1440p with limited/no ray tracing

true next gen performance on PS5

* at 60 fps!!

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#11 Djoffer123
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lol the cows are at it again:)

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#12 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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1440p is the res I play at, actually most PC gamers with a 2070 upwards or whatever. Not sure why that gets shitted on, weird.

60 fps isn't 144, but seems an improvement for next gen consoles in my eyes.

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#13 NathanDrakeSwag
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@djoffer123 said:

lol the cows are at it again:)

The cows have games to play at launch. Wish I could say the same for the lems. But look on the bright side young lemmington, 2024 will probably be a killer year for XSX 😇

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#14  Edited By Chutebox
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Nom nom

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@NathanDrakeSwag: still a hermit ( with a PS4 and a switch) so I seen all the graphic kings games last gen and nope none of them could compete with pc, and don’t see it changing this gen..

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#16 iambatman7986
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Looks great but CP2077 with full rt looks better in my opinion. This'll be the first game I get when I get a ps5, but I won't pay $70 for a remake of a game I played 11 years ago. Actually, I won't pay $70 for any game. That's just me though.

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#17 Pedro
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I am tad disappointed that its running at 1440p especially for a launch game.

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#18  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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This looks sooooo much better than the original - the combat looks more fluid, tight, and that framerate boost will be transformative. There are scenes there juxtaposing close to 10fps on ps3 with 60 on ps5.

The original game needed this bad. I've stopped my replay and will just wait for this, because it's kinda painful by modern standards

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#19 Pedro
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@xantufrog said:

This looks sooooo much better then the original - the combat looks more fluid, tight, and that framerate boost will be transformative. There are scenes there juxtaposing close to 10fps on ps3 with 60 on ps5.

The original game needed this bad. I've stopped my replay and will just wait for this, because it's kinda painful by modern standards

Are you getting it or waiting on the PC version?

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#20  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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@xantufrog said:

This looks sooooo much better then the original - the combat looks more fluid, tight, and that framerate boost will be transformative. There are scenes there juxtaposing close to 10fps on ps3 with 60 on ps5.

The original game needed this bad. I've stopped my replay and will just wait for this, because it's kinda painful by modern standards

Wow, even Xantu is impressed. Hype raised!

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#21 xantufrog  Moderator
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@Pedro: no idea - I won't buy a ps5 for a year or so, so whatever the situation is at that time Will probably determine it

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#22 sheep99
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Lol i like how Xbox call ps5 weak and they keep forgetting that ms is releasing the weaker system and they call it a good deal lol just love how fanboys and girls think

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#23  Edited By Mesome713
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Will look better on PC, I’ll wait. Sad it’s not 4K, seems like a waste.

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It looks and runs better than the PS3 version, I guess. Linear game running at 1440p 60ish FPS thanks to the mighty SSD and rDNA 3 GPU. Lems can't get a break.

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#25 Pedro
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It has been set. Who is going to bite?
It has been set. Who is going to bite?

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#26  Edited By Bluestars
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30 fps HaH

tho credit for the 60fps performance mode,it should be implement in every game next gen.

lets see that performance when/if RT is implemented

as for graphics...this shits on DS and it has a 120 mode on serious X..enjoy dem grafix

https://youtu.be/HPrFYFKPOuE

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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@pc_rocks said:

Cows really are having a hard 2020. In case people don't know, CP 2077 on PC exists and a remake by Bluepoint on a weak system has no chance. Not to mention the art direction of remake is inferior to original.

Also, LOL at 1440p on a next-gen system. So much for 8K and up to 120FPS.

Good thing I can play both of those on PS5. No need for a PC 😇

Good for you. Enjoy sub 4K/30 FPS. I'll play both at 4K/60 with much higher settings than PS5 could dream of. Also all the Bethesda MS library.

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Will definitely get the PC version for 4K/60 gameplay

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#29 SolidGame_basic
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@navyguy21: Sony confirmed it's exclusive to PS5 https://kotaku.com/demons-souls-remake-also-coming-to-pc-timed-exclusive-1845082896

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#30 tdkmillsy
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@navyguy21: Sony confirmed it's exclusive to PS5 https://kotaku.com/demons-souls-remake-also-coming-to-pc-timed-exclusive-1845082896

For now

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#31 navyguy21
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@SolidGame_basic: The developer put it in the trailer and on the website and then removed it.

So they made the same mistake twice?

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#32 PC_Rocks
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@navyguy21: Sony confirmed it's exclusive to PS5 https://kotaku.com/demons-souls-remake-also-coming-to-pc-timed-exclusive-1845082896

At launch*

When asked if Demon's Souls would ever release on PC, Sony declined to elaborate further.

Source

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#33  Edited By BlackShirt20
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@SolidGame_basic: It’s definitely coming to the PS4. No game design or mechanics in this game that requires new hardware. Purely trying to push new consoles. Will be announced on PS4 very early next year.

1440p with no ray tracing to hit 60fps? What happened to this SSD taking the load off of the GPU? What happened to streaming pixels to take loads off the CPU and GPU?

Visually it looks ok. Not impressed or mind blowing. No revolutionary game play. No revolutionary game design. Current gen game that will be on PS4.

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#34 Fedor
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Will grab the PC version.

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#35 SolidGame_basic
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Well until they announce it, there's no PC version lol.

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@iambatman7986 said:

Looks great but CP2077 with full rt looks better in my opinion. This'll be the first game I get when I get a ps5, but I won't pay $70 for a remake of a game I played 11 years ago. Actually, I won't pay $70 for any game. That's just me though.

For now, Cyberpunk will definitely be the graphics king, especially with 3080s and 3090s pushing the envelope for RT power along with DLSS 2.0.

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There's one thing i still don't understand. They seem to have a 30fps/4k mode and a1440p/60fps performance mode, which is exactly what i wanted all next gen games to be. But, WHERE IS THE NATIVE 1440P SUPPORT FOR THE PS5? I don't want to play a 1440p image upscaled to 4k. Give me my god damn 1440p native support, Sony. MS has been doing it for a long ass time even with the Xbone, and sony still doesn't support it with their next gen hardware. With the current gen i could kinda understand that they aren't supporting it because they're in the TV business so their system supports the more popular tv resolutions which is 1080/4k. But this does not work with the upcoming generation. Plenty of games will most likely run at 120fps (or should i say up to 120fps). How am i supposed to achieve 120fps on a tv? Then there's another issue, which is freesync. They have to support monitors ffs.

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#38 Ant_17
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Poor df cant spin this about the xbox.

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Happy with 1440p at 60

I hope all other games will get such mode

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I'm glad there is a 60 option, but kinda sucks they had to drop to 1440. Still, that will be my preferred way to play.

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@lundy86_4 said:

I'm glad there is a 60 option, but kinda sucks they had to drop to 1440. Still, that will be my preferred way to play.

If all they're dropping is resolution, that's fine. But if they're lowering graphical settings and RT, that's would suck. If that's the case, it kinda sucks that they need to do it already, because that's a launch title. What will happen in two years from now if they're already downgrading titles on day one.

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So AC Valhalla is "said to be" 4k/60fps and Bluepoint can't even get a shitty PS3 game remastered to 4k/60fps on the PS5. Man either Bluepoint are shit or the PS5 is, hey maybe its both lol.

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@i_p_daily said:

So AC Valhalla is "said to be" 4k/60fps and Bluepoint can't even get a shitty PS3 game remastered to 4k/60fps on the PS5. Man either Bluepoint are shit or the PS5 is, hey maybe its both lol.

It's because it looks so damn good.....It ISN'T a remaster.

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@fastnslowww said:
@i_p_daily said:

So AC Valhalla is "said to be" 4k/60fps and Bluepoint can't even get a shitty PS3 game remastered to 4k/60fps on the PS5. Man either Bluepoint are shit or the PS5 is, hey maybe its both lol.

It's because it looks so damn good.....It ISN'T a remaster.

Yea it's a remake. I played their remake of Shadow of the Colossus. Looks incredible. And this game looks incredible too!

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@hardwenzen said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I'm glad there is a 60 option, but kinda sucks they had to drop to 1440. Still, that will be my preferred way to play.

If all they're dropping is resolution, that's fine. But if they're lowering graphical settings and RT, that's would suck. If that's the case, it kinda sucks that they need to do it already, because that's a launch title. What will happen in two years from now if they're already downgrading titles on day one.

Developers..... once used to the hardware, can use neat tricks and shortcuts to achieive desired outcomes, either with resolution or graphics, there needs to be a balance tho. But the principle is that If you push nothing but graphics, then expect a downgrade in resolution among other things, it's up to the developers.

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#46 hardwenzen  Online
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@fastnslowww said:
@hardwenzen said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I'm glad there is a 60 option, but kinda sucks they had to drop to 1440. Still, that will be my preferred way to play.

If all they're dropping is resolution, that's fine. But if they're lowering graphical settings and RT, that's would suck. If that's the case, it kinda sucks that they need to do it already, because that's a launch title. What will happen in two years from now if they're already downgrading titles on day one.

Developers..... once used to the hardware, can use neat tricks and shortcuts to achieive desired outcomes, either with resolution or graphics, there needs to be a balance tho. But the principle is that If you push nothing but graphics, then expect a downgrade in resolution among other things, it's up to the developers.

This wouldn't be an issue if the system wasn't 9,2tflops, or at least not at launch.

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@fastnslowww said:
@i_p_daily said:

So AC Valhalla is "said to be" 4k/60fps and Bluepoint can't even get a shitty PS3 game remastered to 4k/60fps on the PS5. Man either Bluepoint are shit or the PS5 is, hey maybe its both lol.

It's because it looks so damn good.....It ISN'T a remaster.

Yea it's a remake. I played their remake of Shadow of the Colossus. Looks incredible. And this game looks incredible too!

Ah cows and "teh looks" lol.

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#48 JasonOfA36
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Cool. Gonna wait for the PC version. I'm not too hyped by the game atm, but if it doesn't come out for PC, I'll just wait before a PS5 slim comes out.

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#49  Edited By LouiXIII
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This game looks sick. Remake or not, it's a system seller in my book. This and S:MM Ultimate are more than enough to keep me happy at launch.

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#50 iambatman7986
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I do wish Sony would support 1440p natively. If a game can render better at 1440p with better graphics than the 4k counterpart, allow people to run that resolution natively. There is nothing wrong with 1440p on a 27" monitor. I'm waiting for the inevitable c11 oled to launch before upgrading my TV. The cx seems to be having gsync issues from what I'm hearing.