Dedicated servers on PC are highly superior to P2P on Consoles!

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#1 Posted by EvanTheGamer (1509 posts) -

Thats why on TF2 (halloween special event), I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

Granted I can get on if I donate to the people runnung the servers...

but thats BULL****

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#2 Posted by Blabadon (33030 posts) -
ok
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#3 Posted by gameofthering (11088 posts) -

Decicated are still better anyway :P

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#4 Posted by Zeviander (9503 posts) -
Thank you captain obvious.
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#5 Posted by GhoX (6267 posts) -
QQ less and set up your own.
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#6 Posted by GamerEye (1607 posts) -

I'm pretty sure everybody already knew this.

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#7 Posted by bleehum (5321 posts) -

Cool thread. QQ more, dedicated servers

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#8 Posted by ultimate-k (2348 posts) -

Me and my friends always find games to join, its piss easy to get into a match with friends. The only thing I give ya for is the mvm haloween event, those games are almost impossible to find.

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#9 Posted by br0kenrabbit (15062 posts) -

Thats why on TF2 (halloween special event), I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

Granted I can get on if I donate to the people runnung the servers...

but thats BULL****

EvanTheGamer

Or, you know, stop freeloading andget your own server.

Besides, it's not like there's a dearth of TF2 servers that aren't full.

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#10 Posted by carlisledavid79 (10522 posts) -
If only people would use their dedicated blogs
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#11 Posted by NoodleFighter (8682 posts) -

wow consolites are getting desperate

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#12 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26859 posts) -

I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

EvanTheGamer

So you are saying that if it was a P2P game you would be able to join a full game ?

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#13 Posted by menes777 (2643 posts) -

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

R4gn4r0k

So you are saying that if it was a P2P game you would be able to join a full game ?

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Consolite logic at it's finest...

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#14 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26859 posts) -

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

menes777

So you are saying that if it was a P2P game you would be able to join a full game ?

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Consolite logic at it's finest...

People in this thread say TC is crying but he is actually making us laugh :lol:

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#15 Posted by savagetwinkie (7981 posts) -

I like p2p systems in games, they keep a healthy amount of game types alive, by creating serves based on people playing that game type means there never isn't enough. I remember trying to play some game types on CoD on PC just having so few servers it was hard to find a good match. It sucks when you can't find a server and just move to another game type that's more popular, theres probably a lot of people that would have been playing the game type you want but also couldn't find a server.

With that being said, p2p doesn't allow custom servers. I wouldn't mind both being around on pc. Dedicated for custom/modded servers, and p2p for the times I just need to play.

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#16 Posted by tenaka2 (17052 posts) -

Thats why on TF2 (halloween special event), I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

Granted I can get on if I donate to the people runnung the servers...

but thats BULL****

EvanTheGamer

lol you don't have any friends.

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#17 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

I have a feeling your friends probably just dont like you

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#18 Posted by deactivated-59b71619573a1 (38222 posts) -

That story you just told bro was very cool

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#19 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

most PC games are P2P while most console games are on dedicated servers, specially if they are PS3 exclusives.

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#20 Posted by lundy86_4 (48526 posts) -

most PC games are P2P while most console games are on dedicated servers, specially if they are PS3 exclusives.

Gue1

Wat?

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#21 Posted by Liquid_ (3818 posts) -

wow consolites are getting desperate

NoodleFighter

what game is that in your sig?

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#22 Posted by lawlessx (48753 posts) -

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

wow consolites are getting desperate

Liquid_

what game is that in your sig?

hawken

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#23 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

most PC games are P2P while most console games are on dedicated servers, specially if they are PS3 exclusives.

Gue1

I think you are confused sir

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#24 Posted by tenaka2 (17052 posts) -

Tread is pointless, console gamers dont know what a server is or what it does, 'I HAZ GAMES' is about as much as we can hope for.

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#25 Posted by Pug-Nasty (8508 posts) -

Dedicated servers on consoles are better than P2P on PC!

Yay, we agree.

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#26 Posted by WilliamRLBaker (28915 posts) -

[QUOTE="R4gn4r0k"]

[QUOTE="EvanTheGamer"]

I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

menes777

So you are saying that if it was a P2P game you would be able to join a full game ?

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Consolite logic at it's finest...

please dont say consolite it has nothing to do with it, being stupid has everything to do with it.
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#27 Posted by EvanTheGamer (1509 posts) -

Wow seriously the best Damage Control from the PChildren is just make your own server? LOL

F*** dedicated servers unless you have no friends. Console online you can just buddy up and stay together, the best way for multiplayer : )

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#28 Posted by Liquid_ (3818 posts) -

[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

[QUOTE="NoodleFighter"]

wow consolites are getting desperate

lawlessx

what game is that in your sig?

hawken

what?

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#29 Posted by princeofshapeir (16587 posts) -

Thats why on TF2 (halloween special event), I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

Granted I can get on if I donate to the people runnung the servers...

but thats BULL****

EvanTheGamer
A party feature was added in the MvM update that let you add your friends to a lobby and then enter the matchmaking process to join a server for the gamemode of your choice. It will work with the Halloween event. You are doing it wrong.
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#30 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

Wow seriously the best Damage Control from the PChildren is just make your own server? LOL

F*** dedicated servers unless you have no friends. Console online you can just buddy up and stay together, the best way for multiplayer : )

EvanTheGamer

Except P2P connection are horrible for online

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#31 Posted by ShadowMoses900 (17081 posts) -

Of course dedicated servers are better than P2P, anyone with a brain knows this. There are some games on consoles that are dedicated like Killzone, Battlefield, Resistance etc....

What's sad though is PAYING for P2P online gaming. Not to sound like a fanboy, but that is just plain stupid.

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#32 Posted by DragonfireXZ95 (22933 posts) -
Why don't you all find a server with slots then? It's really not that difficult.
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#33 Posted by NoodleFighter (8682 posts) -

[QUOTE="lawlessx"]

[QUOTE="Liquid_"]

what game is that in your sig?

Liquid_

hawken

what?

I guess he still sees my old sig

this one is a HD GIF of God Slayer

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#34 Posted by slimjimbadboy (1731 posts) -

Of course dedicated servers are better than P2P, anyone with a brain knows this. There are some games on consoles that are dedicated like Killzone, Battlefield, Resistance etc....

What's sad though is PAYING for P2P online gaming. Not to sound like a fanboy, but that is just plain stupid.

ShadowMoses900

Resistance had dedicated servers? Can't be R3 you're talking about.

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#35 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
Dedicated servers on PC are highly superior to P2P on Consoles! EvanTheGamer
Thank you Captain Obvious for stating the obvious.
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#36 Posted by AmazonTreeBoa (16745 posts) -
Why don't you all find a server with slots then? It's really not that difficult.DragonfireXZ95
That requires brains cells and the ability to think. In otherwords, TC is screwed.
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#37 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

Tread is pointless, console gamers dont know what a server is or what it does, 'I HAZ GAMES' is about as much as we can hope for.

tenaka2

Okay, I'll bite: why should gamers care about the implementation details? (And before you list the advantages of dedicated servers, keep in mind that they can be used as part of a matchmaking system while still abstract to the user.)

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#38 Posted by tenaka2 (17052 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Tread is pointless, console gamers dont know what a server is or what it does, 'I HAZ GAMES' is about as much as we can hope for.

lowe0

Okay, I'll bite: why should gamers care about the implementation details? (And before you list the advantages of dedicated servers, keep in mind that they can be used as part of a matchmaking system while still abstract to the user.)

I never said they should care. I have no interest in listing the obvious advantages of dedicated servers. I have been in a few CS clans and had clan servers and admin rights. I like playing games with a ping lower then 20, p2p latency is into the hundreds making everything rather pointless.

Matchmaking systems hinder skill progression, the only way to get better is to play against better players. I realise that auto-aim and hitbox sisze make skill somewhat redundant in console multiplayer however.

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#39 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Tread is pointless, console gamers dont know what a server is or what it does, 'I HAZ GAMES' is about as much as we can hope for.

tenaka2

Okay, I'll bite: why should gamers care about the implementation details? (And before you list the advantages of dedicated servers, keep in mind that they can be used as part of a matchmaking system while still abstract to the user.)

I never said they should care. I have no interest in listing the obvious advantages of dedicated servers. I have been in a few CS clans and had clan servers and admin rights. I like playing games with a ping lower then 20, p2p latency is into the hundreds making everything rather pointless.

Matchmaking systems hinder skill progression, the only way to get better is to play against better players. I realise that auto-aim and hitbox sisze make skill somewhat redundant in console multiplayer however.

If they shouldn't care, then how is it relevant whether they know what a server is or not?
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#40 Posted by tenaka2 (17052 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] Okay, I'll bite: why should gamers care about the implementation details? (And before you list the advantages of dedicated servers, keep in mind that they can be used as part of a matchmaking system while still abstract to the user.)

lowe0

I never said they should care. I have no interest in listing the obvious advantages of dedicated servers. I have been in a few CS clans and had clan servers and admin rights. I like playing games with a ping lower then 20, p2p latency is into the hundreds making everything rather pointless.

Matchmaking systems hinder skill progression, the only way to get better is to play against better players. I realise that auto-aim and hitbox sisze make skill somewhat redundant in console multiplayer however.

If they shouldn't care, then how is it relevant whether they know what a server is or not?

Just pointing out the fact, consolites can hardly see the advantage of dedicated servers rahter then p2p if they have no idea what either means. Certainly a relevant observation for this thread, which if you took the time to look was started by a consolite pc hating peasant.

I would say get off your high horse but at this point the fall would more then likely kill you.

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#41 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

Wow seriously the best Damage Control from the PChildren is just make your own server? LOL

F*** dedicated servers unless you have no friends. Console online you can just buddy up and stay together, the best way for multiplayer : )

EvanTheGamer

I can play with my friends on dedicated servers... You know how it works ?

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#42 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I never said they should care. I have no interest in listing the obvious advantages of dedicated servers. I have been in a few CS clans and had clan servers and admin rights. I like playing games with a ping lower then 20, p2p latency is into the hundreds making everything rather pointless.

Matchmaking systems hinder skill progression, the only way to get better is to play against better players. I realise that auto-aim and hitbox sisze make skill somewhat redundant in console multiplayer however.

tenaka2

If they shouldn't care, then how is it relevant whether they know what a server is or not?

Just pointing out the fact, consolites can hardly see the advantage of dedicated servers rahter then p2p if they have no idea what either means. Certainly a relevant observation for this thread, which if you took the time to look was started by a consolite pc hating peasant.

I would say get off your high horse but at this point the height would more then likely kill you.

You specifically said we don't know what servers are. I'm curious as to why I keep getting invited to server upgrade project meetings if that's the case.
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#43 Posted by tenaka2 (17052 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] If they shouldn't care, then how is it relevant whether they know what a server is or not?lowe0

Just pointing out the fact, consolites can hardly see the advantage of dedicated servers rahter then p2p if they have no idea what either means. Certainly a relevant observation for this thread, which if you took the time to look was started by a consolite pc hating peasant.

I would say get off your high horse but at this point the height would more then likely kill you.

You specifically said we don't know what servers are. I'm curious as to why I keep getting invited to server upgrade project meetings if that's the case.

Obviously the meeting organiser is mistaking you for someone else, just keep quiet and hopefully no one will notice.

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#44 Posted by Bebi_vegeta (13558 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"] If they shouldn't care, then how is it relevant whether they know what a server is or not?lowe0

Just pointing out the fact, consolites can hardly see the advantage of dedicated servers rahter then p2p if they have no idea what either means. Certainly a relevant observation for this thread, which if you took the time to look was started by a consolite pc hating peasant.

I would say get off your high horse but at this point the height would more then likely kill you.

You specifically said we don't know what servers are. I'm curious as to why I keep getting invited to server upgrade project meetings if that's the case.

Lowe0 = all consolites

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#45 Posted by killerflop (59 posts) -

Thats why on TF2 (halloween special event), I can't play with my friends because the servers they are on are full : (

Granted I can get on if I donate to the people runnung the servers...

but thats BULL****

EvanTheGamer
matchmaking is trash the game isnt running 24/7
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#46 Posted by lowe0 (13692 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Just pointing out the fact, consolites can hardly see the advantage of dedicated servers rahter then p2p if they have no idea what either means. Certainly a relevant observation for this thread, which if you took the time to look was started by a consolite pc hating peasant.

I would say get off your high horse but at this point the height would more then likely kill you.

Bebi_vegeta

You specifically said we don't know what servers are. I'm curious as to why I keep getting invited to server upgrade project meetings if that's the case.

Lowe0 = all consolites

He didn't put any qualifier on his statement. A single contrary example is sufficient to prove it false.
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#47 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26859 posts) -

You specifically said we don't know what servers are. I'm curious as to why I keep getting invited to server upgrade project meetings if that's the case.lowe0

I thought a consolite was someone who only owns a console, not a PC like you

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#48 Posted by MrYaotubo (2880 posts) -

[QUOTE="lowe0"]You specifically said we don't know what servers are. I'm curious as to why I keep getting invited to server upgrade project meetings if that's the case.R4gn4r0k

I thought a consolite was someone who only owns a console, not a PC like you

Especially someone that has a high end system like he already stated many times before and a triple monitor setting I believe,not to mention hundreds of games on steam.

That´s not a consolite,it´s just someone trying really hard to be included in a group that quite a lot of people around here from the same "group" don´t even want to be associated with him(console gamers,not consolites) and yet he talks like he´s part of them all the time,you rarely see a bigger hubris than his.

I mean,even the term consolite is only used to some console gamers that are really ignorant of the PC and spread nonsensical bulls*** all the time,the others are console gamers,yet he identifies himself as the former,it´s obviously one of the biggest try hards in these forums,why people still respond to his nonsense is beyond me.

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#49 Posted by R4gn4r0k (26859 posts) -

Especially someone that has a high end system like he already stated many times before and a triple monitor setting I believe,not to mention hundreds of games on steam.

That´s not a consolite,it´s just someone trying really hard to be included in a group that quite a lot of people around here from the same "group" don´t even want to be associated with him(console gamers,not consolites) and yet he talks like he´s part of them all the time,you rarely see a bigger hubris than his.

I mean,even the term consolite is only used to some console gamers that are really ignorant of the PC and spread nonsensical bulls*** all the time,the others are console gamers,yet he identifies himself as the former,it´s obviously one of the biggest try hards in these forums,why people still respond to his nonsense is beyond me.

MrYaotubo

Ah so he is like gamerwillzPS then, who tries really hard to fit in with the PC crowd by constantly bashing console gamers.

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#50 Posted by MrYaotubo (2880 posts) -

[QUOTE="MrYaotubo"]

Especially someone that has a high end system like he already stated many times before and a triple monitor setting I believe,not to mention hundreds of games on steam.

That´s not a consolite,it´s just someone trying really hard to be included in a group that quite a lot of people around here from the same "group" don´t even want to be associated with him(console gamers,not consolites) and yet he talks like he´s part of them all the time,you rarely see a bigger hubris than his.

I mean,even the term consolite is only used to some console gamers that are really ignorant of the PC and spread nonsensical bulls*** all the time,the others are console gamers,yet he identifies himself as the former,it´s obviously one of the biggest try hards in these forums,why people still respond to his nonsense is beyond me.

R4gn4r0k

Ah so he is like gamerwillzPS then, who tries really hard to fit in with the PC crowd by constantly bashing console gamers.

Pretty much.