Deathloop is a game changer. Prophecy fullfilled.

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#101 with_teeth26
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@hardwenzen said:
@with_teeth26 said:

ah man, I am here to bask in Ghost's win on this one. Everyone shitting on the gameplay yesterday like this was gonna be a huge flop and it gets a 10.

big Arkane fan so I'll pick this up very soon.

Nothing has changed. 100% of gameplay vids and reviews look as bad as they were yesterday. Maybe crack is legal where the reviewer lives!? That would explain the score.

imma trust the people who actually played it over random peoples opinions based on a few gameplay vids

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#102 Ghosts4ever
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@hardwenzen said:
@with_teeth26 said:

ah man, I am here to bask in Ghost's win on this one. Everyone shitting on the gameplay yesterday like this was gonna be a huge flop and it gets a 10.

big Arkane fan so I'll pick this up very soon.

Nothing has changed. 100% of gameplay vids and reviews look as bad as they were yesterday. Maybe crack is legal where the reviewer lives!? That would explain the score.

nothing in gameplay looks bad. Shooting looks fantastic combine with level design instead of set pieces sony games have.

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#103 Macutchi
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@hardwenzen said:

Don't expect more than 10 people on SW to buy it. I wonder how does this make ghost feel right now.

seeing as there's only about 20 people active on this board anyway if 10 people buy it he probably feels his work here is done

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#104 hardwenzen
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@with_teeth26 said:
@hardwenzen said:
@with_teeth26 said:

ah man, I am here to bask in Ghost's win on this one. Everyone shitting on the gameplay yesterday like this was gonna be a huge flop and it gets a 10.

big Arkane fan so I'll pick this up very soon.

Nothing has changed. 100% of gameplay vids and reviews look as bad as they were yesterday. Maybe crack is legal where the reviewer lives!? That would explain the score.

imma trust the people who actually played it over random peoples opinions based on a few gameplay vids

I don't play asscreed. you can trust my opinion.

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#105 hardwenzen
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@ghosts4ever: Its the opposite. everything but the level design (which arkane is very good at) looks like trash. Like everything. All of it. AAAALLLL.

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#106 Ghosts4ever
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@Macutchi said:
@hardwenzen said:

Don't expect more than 10 people on SW to buy it. I wonder how does this make ghost feel right now.

seeing as there's only about 20 people active on this board anyway if 10 people buy it he probably feels his work here is done

yeah like anyone give a crap about who buy or not.

this score triggered him. even more so it outscored last of us 2.

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@hardwenzen said:

@ghosts4ever: Its the opposite. everything but the level design (which arkane is very good at) looks like trash. Like everything. All of it. AAAALLLL.

Shooting is excellent, so is level design, so is its world design which is unique, so is its characters (based on people who play it praising its characters), so is its originality. but it needed regen health and walking segment so you cant play it.

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#108  Edited By hardwenzen
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I just wanted ghost to know, this game will never be as good as TLOU2. And since TLOU2 is not on skidrowreloaded, you wouldn't be able to download a cracked version either🤭

Stuck with this inferior title that you won't be able to play for months because it will take a while before its cracked.😱

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#109  Edited By Fedor
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

@ghosts4ever: Its the opposite. everything but the level design (which arkane is very good at) looks like trash. Like everything. All of it. AAAALLLL.

Shooting is excellent, so is level design, so is its world design which is unique, so is its characters (based on people who play it praising its characters), so is its originality.but it needed regen health and walking segment so you cant play it.

Game has regen health... First couple hours of the game are full of slow segments (hand holding). These facts have been said in several reviews now.

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#110  Edited By Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:

I just wanted ghost to know, this game will never be as good as TLOU2.

TLOU2 is 8, this is 10.

Are you bad at math?

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#111 Ghosts4ever
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@fedor said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

@ghosts4ever: Its the opposite. everything but the level design (which arkane is very good at) looks like trash. Like everything. All of it. AAAALLLL.

Shooting is excellent, so is level design, so is its world design which is unique, so is its characters (based on people who play it praising its characters), so is its originality.but it needed regen health and walking segment so you cant play it.

Game has regen health... First couple hours of the game are full of slow segments (hand holding). These facts have been said in several reviews now.

It has health bar. you fill health by picking up health.

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#112 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

I just wanted ghost to know, this game will never be as good as TLOU2.

TLOU2 is 8, this is 10.

Are you bad at math?

Not this mobile gamer again🙃

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@BenjaminBanklin:

When you realise Sony paid 10's of millions,enjoy paying 70 dollars to beta test for xbox

I will enjoy this game on PC regardless. Enjoy licking the window for a year as the wait for good AAAs that don't involve a car on Game Pass continues.

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#114 Ghosts4ever
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@hardwenzen said:

I just wanted ghost to know, this game will never be as good as TLOU2. And since TLOU2 is not on skidrowreloaded, you wouldn't be able to download a cracked version either🤭

Stuck with this inferior title that you won't be able to play for months because it will take a while before its cracked.😱

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/

TLOU2 is so bad that there is entire subreddit of TLOU2 haters.

plus its movie game with automatic animation doesnot help.

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BTW! I've checked a few reviews now, and most of them are saying that the AI is so braindead, that the game is easy af, and its very hard to die. Is this why ghost is so interested? After him saving like 300 times on Normal in RE2R, this wouldn't surprise me.

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#116 Fedor
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@ghosts4ever: There is literally regen health in the game with perks to make it go faster. WTF are you not understanding?

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#117 Zaryia
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Not this mobile gamer again🙃

Lie less.

So yeah 10 > 8.

Or are you just talking about gfx, in which case you own a gaming PC Right? I can't imagine a gfx whore who doesn't own a high end gaming PC. That's pathetic.

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#118 blaznwiipspman1
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@fedor said:

After watching Gman's review the 10's are becoming highly questionable. That AI is bad.

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so he notes the bad AI, and the repetitive nature. He didn't say what he rated but a 8/10 sounds about right.

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#119  Edited By NNoyingHusband
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This game just screams meh. Like I can’t even get the slightest bit interested in it. Wasn’t hyped, then gets 10’s but so many people say the same, it looks boring. Hard pass. Having too much fun playing other games and too many big titles on the horizon for this to have an impact.

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#120 hardwenzen
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@ghosts4ever: People are hating on the game because they couldn't get over the death of a certain certain character. As a matter of fact, i know somebody in real life that despises the series now JUST BECAUSE OF THAT REASON ALONE. Imagine being this thick. The dev chooses to do something memorable (be it in a good way or a bad one, it doesn't matter), and all the manchildren begin QQing like teenagers.

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#121 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not this mobile gamer again🙃

Lie less.

So yeah 10 > 8.

Or are you just talking about gfx, in which case you own a gaming PC Right? I can't imagine a gfx whore who doesn't own a high end gaming PC. That's pathetic.

Raid Shadow Legends>Deathloop.

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#122 Fedor
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@blaznwiipspman1: Yep I'd agree with that.

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#123 Zaryia
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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not this mobile gamer again🙃

Lie less.

So yeah 10 > 8.

Or are you just talking about gfx, in which case you own a gaming PC Right? I can't imagine a gfx whore who doesn't own a high end gaming PC. That's pathetic.

Raid Shadow Legends>Deathloop.

Did you play DeathLoop or are you just hating, all Arkane games look dumb to watch but are fun to play.

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#124 blaznwiipspman1
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

I just wanted ghost to know, this game will never be as good as TLOU2. And since TLOU2 is not on skidrowreloaded, you wouldn't be able to download a cracked version either🤭

Stuck with this inferior title that you won't be able to play for months because it will take a while before its cracked.😱

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastOfUs2/

TLOU2 is so bad that there is entire subreddit of TLOU2 haters.

plus its movie game with automatic animation doesnot help.

not going to say its bad, but they made a bunch of questionable decisions that don't help it. The story line was butchered, got rid of scissors for infinity knife.

I've seen a few youtube videos of pro gamers just absolutely blowing my mind with how skilled they are in TLOU2, so thats the one saving grace.

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BTW! I've checked a few reviews now, and most of them are saying that the AI is so braindead, that the game is easy af, and its very hard to die. Is this why ghost is so interested? After him saving like 300 times on Normal in RE2R, this wouldn't surprise me.

It doesnot even have saves because when you die. you start from beginning again. there no checkpoint after 5 minutes like sony movie games.

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#126 hardwenzen
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@ghosts4ever said:
@hardwenzen said:

BTW! I've checked a few reviews now, and most of them are saying that the AI is so braindead, that the game is easy af, and its very hard to die. Is this why ghost is so interested? After him saving like 300 times on Normal in RE2R, this wouldn't surprise me.

It doesnot even have saves because when you die. you start from beginning again. there no checkpoint after 5 minutes like sony movie games.

Like Returnal i just beat? Yea, not like Sony titles btw😂

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#127 hardwenzen
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@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not this mobile gamer again🙃

Lie less.

So yeah 10 > 8.

Or are you just talking about gfx, in which case you own a gaming PC Right? I can't imagine a gfx whore who doesn't own a high end gaming PC. That's pathetic.

Raid Shadow Legends>Deathloop.

Did you play DeathLoop or are you just hating, all Arkane games look dumb to watch but are fun to play.

I have Dishonored 1 and Prey. Didn't like anything about Dishonored. Prey had excellent level design, but everything else was a failure. I am expecting this to be just that.

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YES, MS Studios smashing it. MS Studios getting their first 10 this gen. Looking forward to what else the studio does now.

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#129  Edited By dzimm
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I feel the need to point out that Cyberpunk 2077 was also highly rated, receiving perfect 10s from a number of high profile publications, but as we all know, that game was a dumpster fire. History repeating itself with Deathloop? I suppose we'll have to wait until average gamers get their hands on it and make their own opinions known.

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#130 Ghosts4ever
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@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:
@zaryia said:
@hardwenzen said:

Not this mobile gamer again🙃

Lie less.

So yeah 10 > 8.

Or are you just talking about gfx, in which case you own a gaming PC Right? I can't imagine a gfx whore who doesn't own a high end gaming PC. That's pathetic.

Raid Shadow Legends>Deathloop.

Did you play DeathLoop or are you just hating, all Arkane games look dumb to watch but are fun to play.

I have Dishonored 1 and Prey. Didn't like anything about Dishonored. Prey had excellent level design, but everything else was a failure. I am expecting this to be just that.

Dishonored was excellent. original 1. 2 was disappointing beacuse they made more action oriented and more fantasy with witches but still have excellent level design infact clocktower mansion was one of the best mission in gaming.

Prey was most intelligent game of last gen. the most hardcore one too. its better than Bioshock and true successor of System shock 2.

Deathloop get 10s all over the place and been most innovative game in years.

Arkane track record is amazing. among the best AAA developer today.

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@HalcyonScarlet said:

YES, MS Studios smashing it. MS Studios getting their first 10 this gen. Looking forward to what else the studio does now.

how can you be happy about this? Its a playstation game lol. Even after it releases on xbox next year, it won't change the fact thats its on ps5. If this was a real xbox exclusive, I would be with you though.

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#132 Fedor
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@ghosts4ever: So the game has hand holding, regenerating health, and regenerating energy. Are you going to address this?

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Like I said in the comments section of the review, like someone here said, and like ACG said in his video review, the AI looks so awful and stupid. The braindead AI is the biggest sin and one that big budget titles keep making and then it turns into a pass for me. If I was making a video game, that would be the most important aspect to nail. Having enemies that just stand around or try making a move at you but yet not feeling particularly threatening is a dealbreaker and has been the norm unfortunately for so long.

People should look at F.E.A.R. (the first one) and take notes about the enemy AI in that game when trying to figure out how to truly make a game challenging.

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@fedor said:

@ghosts4ever: So the game has hand holding, regenerating health, and regenerating energy. Are you going to address this?

having insane amount of freedom to explore is hand holding?? LOL troll harder.

and It has health bar. how it is regen health???? you fill health by picking up health packs.

try playing it first then adress it.

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#135  Edited By Fedor
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@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:

@ghosts4ever: So the game has hand holding, regenerating health, and regenerating energy. Are you going to address this?

having insane amount of freedom to explore is hand holding?? LOL troll harder.

and It has health bar. how it is regen health???? you fill health by picking up health packs.

try playing it first then adress it.

Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?
Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?
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@poe13 said:

Like I said in the comments section of the review, like someone here said, and like ACG said in his video review, the AI looks so awful and stupid. The braindead AI is the biggest sin and one that big budget titles keep making and then it turns into a pass for me. If I was making a video game, that would be the most important aspect to nail. Having enemies that just stand around or try making a move at you but yet not feeling particularly threatening is a dealbreaker and has been the norm unfortunately for so long.

People should look at F.E.A.R. (the first one) and take notes about the enemy AI in that game when trying to figure out how to truly make a game challenging.

definitely agree. I mean I don't want to go the other way either, with a super computer level of AI that has machine learning built into it. Nowadays, you have AIs that beat the best dota teams 9 times out of 10, beat the best chess grand master like its nothing, beat the best shogi master so bad that it makes them cry.

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This is what I'm talking about. Just watch any of this video and that is what I want from video games. Then I would be on board with Deathloop. Look how there's little to no standing around. Lots of aggressive flanking, running for cover, throwing grenades at opportune moments (not all the time like in Cod: World at War on veteran). This is what video games need. A revival of smart enemy AI.

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#138 Ghosts4ever
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@fedor said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:

@ghosts4ever: So the game has hand holding, regenerating health, and regenerating energy. Are you going to address this?

having insane amount of freedom to explore is hand holding?? LOL troll harder.

and It has health bar. how it is regen health???? you fill health by picking up health packs.

try playing it first then adress it.

Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?
Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?

Thats the power for upgrades that something Deus Ex have. you still get healthpack to fill the bar.

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here it is. skip to combat. it only fill a bar not full health. just like having a power and only fill bar and then use something to refil your power. ala Dishonored style.

Still no regen health and no hand holding unless you call freedom and exploration hand holding.

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#139 Fedor
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@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:

@ghosts4ever: So the game has hand holding, regenerating health, and regenerating energy. Are you going to address this?

having insane amount of freedom to explore is hand holding?? LOL troll harder.

and It has health bar. how it is regen health???? you fill health by picking up health packs.

try playing it first then adress it.

Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?
Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?

Thats the power for upgrades that something Deus Ex have. you still get healthpack to fill the bar.

here it is. skip to combat. it only fill a bar not full health. just like having a power and only fill bar and then use something to refil your power. ala Dishonored style.

Still no regen health and no hand holding unless you call freedom and exploration hand holding.

So in conclusion, the game holds your hand for the first few hours, it has regen health, and it has regen power. Casual game confirmed. Ghost must hate it.

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@fedor said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:

@ghosts4ever: So the game has hand holding, regenerating health, and regenerating energy. Are you going to address this?

having insane amount of freedom to explore is hand holding?? LOL troll harder.

and It has health bar. how it is regen health???? you fill health by picking up health packs.

try playing it first then adress it.

Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?
Sir, are you going to address the regen health and first 2-3 hours of hand holding in the game (referenced in several reviews)? Is it a casual game now?

Thats the power for upgrades that something Deus Ex have. you still get healthpack to fill the bar.

here it is. skip to combat. it only fill a bar not full health. just like having a power and only fill bar and then use something to refil your power. ala Dishonored style.

Still no regen health and no hand holding unless you call freedom and exploration hand holding.

So in conclusion, the game holds your hand for the first few hours, it has regen health, and it has regen power. Casual game confirmed. Ghost must hate it.

Partially regen is something I never mind. neither power. since only 1 bar is refill not entire health.

Its health system is like Far cry 2. it has like 4 5 health bar but only mini bar regen and using syringe to regain all health.

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@poe13 said:

Like I said in the comments section of the review, like someone here said, and like ACG said in his video review, the AI looks so awful and stupid. The braindead AI is the biggest sin and one that big budget titles keep making and then it turns into a pass for me. If I was making a video game, that would be the most important aspect to nail. Having enemies that just stand around or try making a move at you but yet not feeling particularly threatening is a dealbreaker and has been the norm unfortunately for so long.

People should look at F.E.A.R. (the first one) and take notes about the enemy AI in that game when trying to figure out how to truly make a game challenging.

yeah 100%. no one wants areas full of just murder fodder. enemy design was the one standout thing i disliked about prey so hoping these are more fun to play against but not at the expense of challenge. hoping it's been overstated a bit or can be addressed with difficulty controls

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#142  Edited By Fedor
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@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:

Thats the power for upgrades that something Deus Ex have. you still get healthpack to fill the bar.

here it is. skip to combat. it only fill a bar not full health. just like having a power and only fill bar and then use something to refil your power. ala Dishonored style.

Still no regen health and no hand holding unless you call freedom and exploration hand holding.

So in conclusion, the game holds your hand for the first few hours, it has regen health, and it has regen power. Casual game confirmed. Ghost must hate it.

Partially regen is something I never mind. neither power. since only 1 bar is refill not entire health.

Its health system is like Far cry 2. it has like 4 5 health bar but only mini bar regen and using syringe to regain all health.

Of course, your narrative always changes when it suits you. Casual game.

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#143  Edited By HalcyonScarlet
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:
@HalcyonScarlet said:

YES, MS Studios smashing it. MS Studios getting their first 10 this gen. Looking forward to what else the studio does now.

how can you be happy about this? Its a playstation game lol. Even after it releases on xbox next year, it won't change the fact thats its on ps5. If this was a real xbox exclusive, I would be with you though.

So. Another timed exclusive.

And it confirms that MSs developer is top tier. So PS fans get to sample some of the great stuff MS has to offer, there may be a sequel... And the next game Big picture my friend, big picture.

It means Redfall is going to be pretty good too.

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#144  Edited By regnaston
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@hardwenzen said:

Don't expect more than 10 people on SW to buy it. I wonder how does this make ghost feel right now.

it will sell because there is nothing else exclusive coming to Playstation 5 in the next 6 months

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#145 with_teeth26
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just picked it up for 20% off on GMG. unlocks in 10 hours, 8pm local time. look forward to trying it myself

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Must be a hell of a epic awesome game to get 10/10.

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#147 Sagemode87
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@gym_lion: lmao, You guys are the kings of spin. This game can only be played on PS5 for the foreseeable future and you try to spin it as a positive for Xbox. Such a delusional bunch you are. Another awesome game you can't play on Xbox now.

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#148 blamix
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Wow had 0 plan to play this but might give it a try. Also my heart goes to those who prayed that this game will flop. Lems you're always in my prayers. Hopefully you guys will get a great game aswel soon

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#149 Fedor
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@Sagemode87 said:

@gym_lion: lmao, You guys are the kings of spin. This game can only be played on PS5 for the foreseeable future and you try to spin it as a positive for Xbox. Such a delusional bunch you are. Another awesome game you can't play on Xbox now.

The game is on PC.

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#150 Fedor
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@regnaston said:
@hardwenzen said:

Don't expect more than 10 people on SW to buy it. I wonder how does this make ghost feel right now.

it will sell because there is nothing else exclusive coming to Playstation 5 in the next 6 months

Doesn't Kena come out in like a week?