Death Stranding no longer a Walking Sim...

@cainetao11: so I spoke with a little spizaz instead of being politically correct. It was still obvious I didnt know kind of gameplay was gonna be shown. And its still obvious what was shown shuddnt fall under a verdict

I'm "choking" on non simplistic thinking cuz the simple way of thinking is bad for human evolution lol

You're choking on the teenage "it's either this or that" logistics

Gta 6 could be annocenced with no gameplay and anyone with a brain would know the track record speaks for itself

You want a ms example?

Forza horizon can be defended just off its track record alone as well

Stray away form a higher way of thinking if you want to. Here and there I know the reader gets sudden realizations and new out looks on subjects in life.

Your legs could stop working 2m. That doesnt mean it doesnt make sense to proudly think it will be in shape 2m unless outside physical damage occurs

Last year , the cutoff date for eligible games was November 16th. So even if it was held seven days earlier on Dec 5th this year , Death Stranding very likely would still have been eligible.

Sure , some more people at these outlets that aren't reviewing it could potentially play the game to some extent (and a few may even finish it!) , but that also applies to all the eligible games this year.These people have their games to review and/or their jobs to do.They could be too busy with work , other games , or their lives.

It isn't going to be easy for Death Stranding to get a nomination with it coming out as late as it is. And it would appear that the game could take some time to get through because it looks slow-paced with exploration and side jobs.

Did you mean postmodern or postmodernist art? Or abstract expressionism ("splashes of paint") perhaps?

I wouldn't compare this to fine arts anyway. Most video games use postmodern schemes in their storytelling/setting/turorials (yes, even in how they instruct you how to play). The only game that I can think of that isn't this way is gravity rush (maybe?).

Experimental art would be a broader category. I think you should read about art.

Just think the awards being after the 10th for the first time is a coincidence this year? I don't knowing how much Keighley loves Kojima. More time out is more time out.

If what was shown "shouldn't be judged" why were you claiming a bunch of people would be owned by it?

This is some really shit backpedaling here dude. Its ok to say you failed. It didn't own anyone even though you claimed it would and you wanted to go quoting people. That is what you wrote so don't pretend like you weren't sure now. Just man up and take your L

Hopefully the full game is a lot of fun

I'm impressed that you read my post and somehow managed to miss the point in spectacular fashion. I have little to no interest in art (not that kind anyway) and so I happily bow to your superior knowledge on the subject. I was talking about people looking at something that's clearly heavily pretentious and seeing something that just isn't there.

If this game has hidden depths Kojima is doing a spendid job of pretending it doesn't have any depth at all. Maybe when it's released we'll all be amazed at the great gameplay or maybe my Emperor's New Clothes suspicions will prove to be well founded.

We wait. We see.

WTF?

LMAO

"If its not fun why bother?"-Reggie

@cainetao11: Why engage people at the point where they've long abandoned the game? Jesus, if that's true, then this gameplay vid is entirely useless.

Even as a Kojima fan who's defended him from haters plenty of times... I'm just not all that interested in Death Stranding. I'm hoping for the best, but there's a possibility that it could become a dud.

Either way, that shouldn't tarnish Kojima's legacy. He's had a legendary track record, from MG 1-2, to Snatcher and Policenauts, to MGS 1-5, along with ZOE and Boktai on the side. It's very rare in the game industry to have a successful game design career spanning several decades. Kojima is one of those few elites.

Death Stranding could turn out to be his Phantom Menace or Daikatana moment where things come crashing down, or it could prove naysayers wrong and turn out great. Hopefully the latter, but the former is a possibility.

Because Im going to be offline for a long period soon as Im moving and I want to troll.

"Good artists copy. Great artists steal."

That list is nothing compared to the number of Hollywood and Asian movies (especially Hong Kong movies) that Quentin Tarantino stole from. And there's nothing wrong with that. What makes a great artist is "standing on the shoulders of giants", taking their ideas, building on them, and producing something you could call your own.

Also, most of the list are just subtle references and homages. Much like Tarantino, Kojima loves to insert random references to his favourite movies, and promote them to his fans. But while he loves to reference Hollywood movies, Kojima's style of storytelling has more in common with anime and Japanese literature, which have had a bigger influence on Kojima's bizarre postmodern storytelling style (which is rare in Hollywood).

Besides, Kojima himself has similarly had a reverse influence on Hollywood. For example, Marvel movies. Stan Lee was a fan of Kojima. Winter Soldier is essentially a dumbed-down adaptation of MGS2, and plotlines involving Captain America and especially Winter Soldier are lifted straight from the MGS series.

You are the one being obtuse, as what has been shown is garbage and you can't explain why its not, instead called someone a lem because they pointed out that fact.

So again please explain that was has been shown so far is not garbage....again i'll wait, but if you don't it only confirms you are indeed what I said you are :)

If you insist on joining the conversation then maybe you can explain that was has been shown is not garbage, and while you're at it explain how one is an automatic lem if they think was has been shown is garbage.

Siding with fedor is only proving my point, but please I await one of you to show that was has been shown is not garbage.

Kojima fans are the worst.

I look forward to you making a video of those million ways to play lol.

Another Kojima trash game.

Judging by some here you must be a lem :(

@cainetao11: once again obviously I thought he was going to show the meat of the gameplay. It was a normal assumption. What kojima ended up doing was different.

If he would have shown the core action mechanics and they didnt look good then I would have been owned. I got delayed if anything lol

If you re watch the video with english subtitles you would understand

This looks pretty bad.

@i_p_daily: He's a lem, and so are you. Thats why you're taking such offense to what I said. My whole point was lems like him hate anything not on his toy box, then the king lem (you) got all butthurt about it. Also, you seem to think I said anyone who thinks the game looks like garbage is a lem, when I specifically called one person a lem. Who would have thought you were such a thinned skinned little guy. IpFragility

Ya hear that @getyeryayasout ? I'm a lemming. :P

@i_p_daily: What exactly do you want me to show you? I really haven't been keeping tracks what Kojima has share so far, only those who posted DS news here in SW. Once the game......ops, I mean cinematic driven game releases, I'll get to share my experience but for now, what's their to discuss?

I wasn't trying to provoke you, but what I don't get is, why do you care about this cinematic driven game? We all know you aren't going to watch it.

- L/R control your balance while walking and you can trip on things
- You have to balance the cargo on your back (think tetris)
- Your cargo can be damaged by multiple things in the environment
- There is a button to "catch your breath"
- There are menus on menus on menus
- You earn "likes" along your travels
- Bodily waste is all collected and used as weapons. Bloody pee is really rare

Konami was right...

@goldenelementxl: and call of duty with mechs and filled in bots sound more hardcore ?(titanfall)

Maybe if this was still 2009 smh

Some people are so barebones when it come gameplay acknowledgement. Thank god kojima doesnt give in this ungrateful and repetitive expectancies

Kojima made a game where you walk long distances. Everything we've seen makes it seem like the most repetitive game ever made, mixed with some of the most outlandish (saving your own pee/shit to turn it into weapons) mechanics ever. The game is strange to be strange and barely a game. Sounds like an exaggerated version of another odd series...

@goldenelementxl: if you had attention skills you would know that kojima walked on purpose in that demonstration. Bikes, hoverboards , speedy exoskeletons can be used in that game. Plus fast travel is available

Anymore shallow interpretations you have on this well layered game ?

I recommend re watching the demos with the english subs.

Or go bounce around in titanfall a little more.

Oh man I just watched the GiantBomb video about it. This is my first time really seeing anything about this game.

Geez...

I don't even know....

Hahahahah well I guess we'll see.

Just wow.....

I'm sure Kojima is trying to build up to an April Fools moment, right? He likes to do that.

Only because of your heavy obsession with jrpgs like Kingdom Hearts 3 and Persona 5. It's always about the waifus, so obviously I need to keep the balance of masculinity in the discussions.

All I asked from you was to explain how what has been shown wasn't garbage and you instead come up with the above.

You seem to be the one who's fragile here because someone called it garbage. I don't care what the other guy is, but you seem to care, and that's because you got sensitive over his comment. Toughen up Fedor otherwise you won't last long here.

There are also plenty of others in here that think this game is garbage, but you singled out one, who in your mind is a lem, you seem to hate lems for some reason, did one touch you when you were younger :(

So it will call what I saw from that 50min video shit, now call me a lem and hide behind that if you want, but how about you instead try and explain why its not, surely that shouldn't be too hard for you right?

I don't want you to show me anything, I mean you jumped into a conversation and have no idea what's going on, maybe think before you post.

So if someone posts a thread about a game i have no interest in then i shouldn't post? if that's the case 1) SW will be dead in a month and 2) you shouldn't have posted in the Sunset Overdrive thread as you have no interest in the game or as you have clearly stated (on many occasions) that you don't like the game.

So if a mod can't practice what he preaches then don't preach to me.

Kojima is not mentally all there his interview with GS is weird just like the person himself.

@i_p_daily: Only thing I got from you is trolling and we all know you aren't gonna watch DS. You do know I already own Sunset Overdrive on Steam and played it again right?

No point in me continuing this conversation since DS isn't on your radar.

Excuse me but I don't often come to GS these days but you seems to be one of the worst posters I ever seen so far. Even I can say Death Stranding looks like Shit but I gotta agree what Davillain said here.

I'm a huge Xbox fangirl but I gotta agree with fedor here is that you are the worst troll here. I can see why both fedor and davillain calling you a troll.

Also, what does being a moderator has to do with davillain anyways? They are just assistance of maintaining this place anyways.

@evil_loli: Who are you? Oh that's right you seem to stick up for Dav on a regular basis, if you have a crush on him then use PM's.

Maybe you can answer that what has been shown so far from DS isn't shit, or are just gonna run around here avoiding the question like the other 2?

@i_p_daily: Who am I doesn't matter. The fact is, you seem to be all over this game from left/right and why the heck do I need to show you about death stranding when I don't even own a PS4 but only an Xbox One X & soon to be Switch? No wonder those 2 are calling you a troll.

Hey you guys. Stop derailing this thread or it's gonna get locked by me! As far as Death Stranding goes, Kojima is still keeping stuff hidden and until the game is release, no one doesn't know how it will be the best and that's all we have as far as any latest video we have now.

Again, stop derailing the thread!

@goldenelementxl: Pretty much sums it up

It was shit talking and a claim that failed.

He looses me on the baby in the pod management and the bodily fluids crap (weirdo). Everything else could have been fine. Not interested but I sure as hell would like to see how things get further into the game.

@cainetao11: Yea but not via a bad showing becuase it didnt show typical appeal much by intent.

I was proven wrong but you weren't proven right. Thefore the leverage ain't big enough to claim ownage lol

Be gased if you want tho. I like how you stray way from the big part of my claim that posts that thread. Which was the gameplay being grade A when its released

Your hype off my exaggerated side points.

Lol!

@fedor: @i_p_daily: C'mon guys, it's System Wars not Fanboy Wars. Personal attacks aren't tolerated here. If you can't be civil then maybe it's time to simply ignore each other, or take a timeout and come back when you've both cooled off.

This is all way off topic, and as @davillain- pointed out if the thread keeps getting derailed then it's going to be locked.

Also involves boxes.

This side UP

i stopped watching at the tetris backpack bit lol. wow

This topic is becoming more and more hilarious. Other sites have picked on this Walking Sim thing lol. RingFit Adventure is looking more appealing.

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@goldenelementxl: Pretty much sums it up

Jeff is so damn jaded but for once I agree this looks boring as shit.

edit post options don't seem to be working so i'll just say i watched some more and i'm now firmly i the wtf is this shit camp