Cyberpunk has no gender options

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#1 NathanDrakeSwag
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“You don’t choose your gender anymore. You don’t choose, ‘I want to be a female or male character’ you now choose a body type,” Jonkers says. “Because we want you to feel free to create any character you want. So you choose your body type and we have two voices, one that’s male sounding, one is female sounding. You can mix and match.”

https://www.gamerevolution.com/news/586297-cyberpunk-2077-character-creation-no-male-female-gender-options

Sounds like they're excluding the majority to "include" the small vocal minority. What about the people who want their character to be a male or female? Can't they just have an other option?

I'm buying the game regardless because it looks amazing. But I hate when devs say they want to be more "inclusive" and not even realize that they're excluding the majority of players by doing so.

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#2 DragonfireXZ95
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Who cares? it's a non-issue.

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#3 NathanDrakeSwag
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:

Who cares? it's a non-issue.

Apparently CDPR cares because they're patting themselves on the back over removing the terms male and female from their game.

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#4 djoffer
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Lol ffs...

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#5 Subspecies
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So it's a bad thing to call yourself a man or a woman?

This world is getting more bonkers by the day.

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#6 Telekill
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There is no man. There is no woman. Only gamers.

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#7 ProtossRushX
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the hell?

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#8 getyeryayasout
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I don't care.

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#9 onesiphorus
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Enough identity politics. And why such things are invading our hobby?

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#10 NathanDrakeSwag
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@onesiphorus said:

Enough identity politics. And why such things are invading our hobby?

They've ran out of other hobbies to invade.

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#11 mtron32
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I dont see why they cant have male and female as an option but ALSO have every other conceivable option.

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#12 NathanDrakeSwag
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I dont see why they cant have male and female as an option but ALSO have every other conceivable option.

I don't get it either. It comes across as saying that it's wrong for males and females to identify as such just because a small percentage of people don't want to identify as either.

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#13 hrt_rulz01
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Who cares ffs!

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#14 watercrack445
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Hm, I don't really care. Gamers can still pick a male body or a female body. Male body will still have its characteristics and the same for female body.

Another thought, I do wonder if there will be voice modifiers so we won't have to choose between two voices. That would be awesome.

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#15  Edited By Ross_the_Boss6
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Not sure why this matters. You can choose to look like a man with a male voice. It shouldn’t be hard to identify your character as a man with an ounce of imagination. Not sure why the game needs to tell you.

Stop watching that Quartering nonsense. He’s a moron.

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#16  Edited By I_P_Daily
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@subspecies: "The world is getting more bonkers by the day"

That's funny coming from someone who pretends to be a female one day and a male the next, isn't that right reduc LOL.

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#17 Subspecies
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@i_p_daily: Still a wee bit upset about that, sweetie? ;)

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#18 Gamerno6666
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Maybe the real gender options is the friends we made throughout our journey.

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#19 freedomfreak  Online
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Division had the same bullshit.

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#20 Chutebox
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Haha

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#21 Nirgal
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They just removed the titles to prevents SJW attacking them over transphobia. I don’t care at all. I does not affect the game.

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#22 Vaidream45
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@NathanDrakeSwag: if you want to be a female than just pick all female body parts with a female voice. If you wanna mix and match than you can do that too. I honestly think this is s really cool option.

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#23 navyguy21
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This is just stupid and I'm a big supporter of the LGBTQ community. Regardless of gender at birth, they currently identify themselves as male or female and even change their names to fit the gender they identify with. Why fix a problem that doesn't exist.

No one identifies themselves as "transgender". They are human, and they want to be recognized as the gender they identify with, not this "other" crap. This just is just screaming "hey, you are different than the rest of us but we will include you anyway"

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#24  Edited By phbz
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I'm OK with this approach. Can't see why more freedom to the player can be a bad thing.

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#25 Archangel3371
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I’m really failing to see what the problem is here. Just pick the body type and voice that you want and there you go.

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#26 Sgt_Crow
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The problem isn’t with the freedom to create whatever character you want. The problem is that it’s apparantely wrong to use or identify with the words “male” or “female”.

The world is getting more bonkers indeed.

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#27  Edited By xdude85
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Gamers throwing a bitch fit about options that they don't have to choose.

Just a normal day in other words.

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#28 Syn_Valence
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That. Makes. No. Freaking. Sense.

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#29 Ross_the_Boss6
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@Sgt_Crow:

Who is saying it’s wrong?

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#30  Edited By madrocketeer  Online
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Meh sauce. This was a thing all the way back to at least 2015. Want a female character? Just choose all the female options. I did, and will do. Same as the opposite.

Should also note in this specific case that gender fluidity was a mechanic in the tabletop game. It's literally treated as just another body augmentation. Just an interesting little snippet.

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#31 Ghosts4ever
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Creating character is non sense.

I will chose this

as by default character. not doing any customization.

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#32 sakaiXx
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yay I guess. we don't even see our character in game

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#33 Nirgal
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People are too sensitive this days. If they put the male and female tags people will whine about a lack of third non binary option. If you don’t put the tags you get more conservative people whining that some people they don’t like are being listened to.

At the end of the day, unless you are transexual yourself or have an issue with transexual people I don’t why this would bother you.

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#34  Edited By Epak_
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Pffffttt... it's more like a big F U to the people who-for-some-reason-want-to-be-labeled-as-this-and-that-and-you-better-get-it- right-or-else.

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#36 Ghosts4ever
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@Epak_ said:

Pffffttt... it's more like a big F U to the people who-for-some-reason-want-to-be-labeled-as-this-and-that-and-you-better-get-it- right-or-else.

They are cartering towards reset era crowds. scrolling in reset era and they are very happy.

Im so glad there are developers like id software who dont give a crap about these people.

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#37 NathanDrakeSwag
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@ghosts4ever said:
@Epak_ said:

Pffffttt... it's more like a big F U to the people who-for-some-reason-want-to-be-labeled-as-this-and-that-and-you-better-get-it- right-or-else.

They are cartering towards reset era crowds. scrolling in reset era and they are very happy.

Im so glad there are developers like id software who dont give a crap about these people.

You think they won't pander too if their hand is forced? Lol. Every company will. The only way any of these companies will back down from it is if they start bleeding money like Gillette is.

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#38  Edited By Epak_
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@ghosts4ever said:
@Epak_ said:

Pffffttt... it's more like a big F U to the people who-for-some-reason-want-to-be-labeled-as-this-and-that-and-you-better-get-it- right-or-else.

They are cartering towards reset era crowds. scrolling in reset era and they are very happy.

Im so glad there are developers like id software who dont give a crap about these people.

Oh, I thought the labels mattered, guess not.

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#39 Ghosts4ever
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@Epak_ said:

Pffffttt... it's more like a big F U to the people who-for-some-reason-want-to-be-labeled-as-this-and-that-and-you-better-get-it- right-or-else.

They are cartering towards reset era crowds. scrolling in reset era and they are very happy.

Im so glad there are developers like id software who dont give a crap about these people.

You think they won't pander too if their hand is forced? Lol. Every company will. The only way any of these companies will back down from it is if they start bleeding money like Gillette is.

id software even under bethesda (who are pro resetera/sjw) have not pander them too. i mean look at Doom and Doom Eternal. and then compare to machinegames wolfenstein.

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#40 schu
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Anyone who finds this threatening has a very fragile sense of self. Get a grip.

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#41 DaVillain-  Moderator
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I'm getting "Silence of the Lambs" vibe from reading this lol. But anyways, I'm still gonna play it and I don't mind this approach at all. It's called "Cyberpunk" (2077) for a reason and gender can go either way in that era.

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#42 the_bi99man
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Dave Chappelle really nailed this shit in his new special. The unwritten rule of all the artistic businesses. Express yourself however you want, but you can't upset... the alphabet people.

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#43 ButDuuude
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@sakaixx: It’ll get to that point lol

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@subspecies said:

@i_p_daily: Still a wee bit upset about that, sweetie? ;)

Upset lol, you couldn't upset me sister or is it mister this week LOL.

Keep up princess :)

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#45  Edited By rmpumper
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So people can be half robots, but gender should still be relevant for some reason?

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#46 BenjaminBanklin
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This is not even remotely an issue. If you want your character to be a gender, the options are there to make one. This is a game about future cybernetic people that customize the hell out of themselves, why shouldn't that reflect in the creation tool?

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#47 Planeforger
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It's a cyberpunk game. You can probably buy body modifications from vending machines on every street corner.

So...yeah, it fits the setting that your sex or gender isn't particularly important.

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#48 VFighter
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It won't stop me from playing the game that's for sure.

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#49 warmblur
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@the_bi99man said:

Dave Chappelle really nailed this shit in his new special. The unwritten rule of all the artistic businesses. Express yourself however you want, but you can't upset... the alphabet people.

Man I just watched that Netflix special yesterday it was gold Chappelle is on fire.

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#50 nepu7supastar7
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@NathanDrakeSwag:

Then what the hell are the npc's going to refer to you as? They?? Because if I make a female mc and get called a "he" by everyone else then I'm going to be really pissed off! Saints Row all over again...