Courts wanna ban violent video games? What's your take?

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#1 CDUB316
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i couldn't agree with this guy (kevin craft) anymore if i could.....this guy hit the nail on the head here

take that jack thompson!!!

how do you guys feel? do you agree with him?

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#2 SilentlyMad
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I disagree with banning them but I agree with being more strict on making sure kids do not get M rated games. Any game retailer should suffer them same penalty for selling children M rated games as people that sell porn mags/video or alchol.

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#3 BURSTIIIFIRE
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I say BAN EM'!...I never play violent games anyways.

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#4 chrion133
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HAHA I loved this comment "Ban American idol it makes me want to /sucide myself." It really shows how ridiculous this whole subject of banning any video games really is. Movies and t.v going way back in the day have depicted horrible violence, leave entertainment and art media alone courts, Shakes fist in anger*

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#5 Parasomniac
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They only want to ban sale of them to minors, which is perfectly okay with me.
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#6 CDUB316
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They only want to ban sale of them to minors, which is perfectly okay with me.Parasomniac

they already do that anyway though....well at least retailers are SUPPOSED to card people

hell i just bought deadly premonition last week....had a big bushy beard and everything and he still carded me....i told him good job, lol

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#7 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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Courts don't want to ban any video games, only restrict minors access to them, I agree wholeheartedly! Keep the kiddies off the games I play! :P
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I say leave them the **** alone. I'm so tired of the government and do-gooder organizations taking it upon themselves to save me from myself. Keep your hands out of my pockets and out of my life, I'm sick of it. Just today I heard two news articles about two more freedoms being taken away from me in Canada. Minor things, but they start to add up and I'm getting sick of it. I want to get out of North America just to get away from this stifling legislation and nosiness from people whose business it isn't to worry about me. Canada and the States are supposed to be bastions of freedom, acceptance, liberties, etc., and I'm getting really tired of it. You can discriminate against smokers after your government-assisted smokes got me addicted to them, but the minute you say "you're too fat to work at Hooters", some Fat Peoples Rights Group jumps down your throat and forces you to change. **** THAT. I don't go around telling you to stop being fat around me, or not to eat that second bacon-burger. Leave me alone, I leave you alone.
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#9 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Parasomniac"]They only want to ban sale of them to minors, which is perfectly okay with me.CDUB316

they already do that anyway though....well at least retailers are SUPPOSED to card people

hell i just bought deadly premonition last week....had a big bushy beard and everything and he still carded me....i told him good job, lol

In CA I think its just advisory, I don't think they can stop under 18's buying mature games, but I could be wrong
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#10 mccoyca112
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They only want to ban sale of them to minors, which is perfectly okay with me.Parasomniac

No complaints here. Then again, Im sure if a parent is content with walking their kid into a store and buying it, they would have no probelm doing it themselves and bringing it back home for the kid.

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#11 rabakill
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I have always been disturbed by the idea that my little sister has play GTA IV. I would like it to be impossible for kids to get violent games.
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I say leave them the **** alone. I'm so tired of the government and do-gooder organizations taking it upon themselves to save me from myself. Keep your hands out of my pockets and out of my life, I'm sick of it. Just today I heard two news articles about two more freedoms being taken away from me in Canada. Minor things, but they start to add up and I'm getting sick of it. I want to get out of North America just to get away from this stifling legislation and nosiness from people whose business it isn't to worry about me. Canada and the States are supposed to be bastions of freedom, acceptance, liberties, etc., and I'm getting really tired of it. You can discriminate against smokers after your government-assisted smokes got me addicted to them, but the minute you say "you're too fat to work at Hooters", some Fat Peoples Rights Group jumps down your throat and forces you to change. **** THAT. I don't go around telling you to stop being fat around me, or not to eat that second bacon-burger. Leave me alone, I leave you alone.Hahadouken
I agree with u on most of that, if you're an adult make your choices and live with them. But 12 yr olds shouldn't be playing MW2
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#13 adamosmaki
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might as well go ban freedom of speech and every basic human right. now of course if they want to take measures to make it harder for little kids to buy violent games then yes i agree with that
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#14 myke2010
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On the one hand, as a parent I'm all for this. I don't want my child to be able to go out and buy these kind of games without my knowledge. On the other hand, I know that, unfortunately, too many parents will now expect the people at the gamestore to do what should be their job of supervising what their kids are playing so the lazy parents have more time to go back to being worthless individuals who can't be bothered to actually pay attention to what their children are doing.

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In Kuwait, we play Vice city at 7 years old.
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#16 SilentlyMad
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On the one hand, as a parent I'm all for this. I don't want my child to be able to go out and buy these kind of games without my knowledge. On the other hand, I know that, unfortunately, too many parents will now expect the people at the gamestore to do what should be their job of supervising what their kids are playing so the lazy parents have more time to go back to being worthless individuals who can't be bothered to actually pay attention to what their children are doing.

myke2010

It is statements like this why I think the world is so bad. Hey we can do whatever we want, show whatever we want, say whatever we want and if the child has any problems then it is the parents fault %110. That would be a little easier if everywhere a child turned now was not sex,drugs, and violence. That excuse of blame the parent has made it so a child needs to live in a bubble without being flooded non-stop with crap because that is the only true way a parent can keep his shild from the stuff.

I am not saying there are no bad parents because of course there is but you act like they are the only ones to blame and they just want to be lazy and honestly makes me wonder if your a parent.

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#17 CDUB316
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sure...making it harder for kids to play these games is a great idea...but what i don't like is that some of these kids ARE smart enough to know the difference between right and wrong and know that it's fiction

my mom DID sit me down at that age and DID have a talk with me and she knew that i knew that these were just all make believe

so if this were back then when i was 6, quite frankly i'd be mad....hell even a 16 year old (in the US) wouldn't be able to play these games and i know they should know these games are wrong

and sometimes i think some of these kids blaming video games are just making crap up....i think they just wanna do bad and commit crimes and then blame it on video games so they get off the hook

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#19 CDUB316
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Educate the parents so they dont buy them for their kids.....

JONO51

if they're too lazy to monitor their kids then i'm sure they're too lazy to be educated about it

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#20 SilentlyMad
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Educate the parents so they dont buy them for their kids.....

JONO51
Or maybe the people that release the games should give fair warning and the game retailers. There is no way a parent can play every single game first to know.
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#21 CDUB316
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[QUOTE="JONO51"]

Educate the parents so they dont buy them for their kids.....

SilentlyMad

Or maybe the people that release the games should give fair warning and the game retailers. There is no way a parent can play every single game first to know.

that is why the ESRB was created

anything M rated should just be a no

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#22 Heil68
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I support the current system we have now. If a game is rated 'M' for mature you must be at least 17 years old to buy it, same as getting into an R rated movie.
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#23 D00nut
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Of course the restriction of violent video games should be increased from the minors, but will that stop mommy and daddy from buying these games for them?

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#24 SilentlyMad
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[QUOTE="SilentlyMad"][QUOTE="JONO51"]

Educate the parents so they dont buy them for their kids.....

CDUB316

Or maybe the people that release the games should give fair warning and the game retailers. There is no way a parent can play every single game first to know.

that is why the ESRB was created

anything M rated should just be a no

And with that esrp rating any retailer Gamestop,Best Buy, and so on if they sell a game to someone under 17 then they get heavy fines and I do not care how "mature" that child thinks he is. Also these retailer get inspected just like alchol stores or porn stores.

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#25 greenballer
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The reason kids get M rated games is because parents buy them for them. I work in retail as a manager for 2 year and have seen countless parents but m rated games for ten year olds. Parents buy video games to babysit there children all the time and it will continue. There is no point in trying to ban violent video games whenthe problem is the parents.

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#26 Legendaryscmt
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The selling of violent video games to minors should be heavily regulated. But with that said, I would also say that to the movie and music industry as well.

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#27 ogvampire
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last i checked, a 12 year old can go into a best buy and purchase an R-rated movie... yet they cant purchase a violent videogame? law is not consistent... so if you are gonna ban sales of M rated games to kids then you have to ban R rated movies as well

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#28 Valiant_Rebel
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It's not the kids. It's the parents. They are the ones that buy them and turn around to blame them for their problems.

Just yesterday at my job, I sold CoD: MW1 and MW2 to a person buying it for a birthday gift. He was discussing the games with me when he got to a point when he said he is buying it for his 9 year old son. I did explain to him the possible online harrassment and the No Russian mission from MW2, but he still bought it anyway. I can't refuse a sale just because I know it will end up in the hands of a minor. I do not have any control what he does with the games when he walks out of the store. You can't blame the developers for the "actions" of the minors, nor can you blame retailers for selling those games. I can guarantee you just about every retailer has strict rules over selling M rated games and doesn't sell them to minors just for the fun of it.

The ESA will not allow the banning of violent video games to occur.

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#29 Yandere
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It's a bit unconstitutional to COMPLETELY ban violent video games.

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#30 M3ran
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yeah some games should be banned for good, dont you guys remember when manhunt 2 was gonna comeout? no company would have supported it if it was gonna be A rated game,(over 21) you see,idont get the point of manhunt atall,i played both of them,its no point. so games should be banned,ill say againe some games. but games these days have feature that you can turn of blood and everything. but still think about it courts cant ban games.it is not got to do with them,they might be able to ban some games in some states,not gonna happen
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#31 CDUB316
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It's a bit unconstitutional to COMPLETELY ban violent video games.

Yandere

yea and it would never happen anyway

video games devs have just as much rights to depict images of violence as directors, book writers, and artists do

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#32 blue_hazy_basic  Moderator
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It's a bit unconstitutional to COMPLETELY ban violent video games.

Yandere
thats why they aren't trying to ... misleading title ...
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#33 Kan0nF0dder
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How about said game locking out unless you can prove you're 18/15 through some sort of online check? Kinda like DRM.

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#34 Menalque2
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The sad thing is there are a lot of people who refuse to bring up their kids properly or give them any guidance in life and blame peer groups, schools and the media (movies, videogames, hip hop music) if they grow up to be criminals.

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#35 Chutebox
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Retailers who sell M games to minors should be fined.

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#36 Kan0nF0dder
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Age ratings exist for a reason. There's a big difference between a 12yr old and a 15yr old and a bigger difference from 15 to 18. It's quite easy to understand how a 13yr old playing GTA 4 might identify with Niko in ways that could lead to problems, long and short-term...I'm not saying they're gonna go out and steal a car straight after playing - as with all things impact varies from person to person. But I'd be right behind an online age verification system of some sort, I think. It would be easy enough to implement for next-gen consoles, and increasing the realism of games makes it more important.

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#37 Revolution316
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I say BAN EM'!...I never play violent games anyways.

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#38 BlancoBX
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It is 100% the job of the parents to monitor what their kids are playing/buying. There shouldnt be ANY laws like this at all, whether it be having apple slices at mcdonalds or banning the sale of violent videogames. It is just infuriating how parents these days want to blame everybody and anybody other than themselves for things their children do.

It makes me sick that parents seem to just not give a crap about being parents anymore these days. I know that when I finally have children im going to take responsibility for them 100%, and wont need some stupid laws to help me. This NANNY government stuff is getting really F***in old already. And anyone who lives in NYC must feel the same with all the bulls*** laws that Bloomberg has/is trying to pass.

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#39 monson21502
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they gotta ban violent music/movies first.

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[QUOTE="BlancoBX"]

It is 100% the job of the parents to monitor what their kids are playing/buying. There shouldnt be ANY laws like this at all, whether it be having apple slices at mcdonalds or banning the sale of violent videogames. It is just infuriating how parents these days want to blame everybody and anybody other than themselves for things their children do.

It makes me sick that parents seem to just not give a crap about being parents anymore these days. I know that when I finally have children im going to take responsibility for them 100%, and wont need some stupid laws to help me. This NANNY government stuff is getting really F***in old already. And anyone who lives in NYC must feel the same with all the bulls*** laws that Bloomberg has/is trying to pass.

Should children be punished either mentally (from seeing or playing things they shouldn't) or physically (from eating MacD's 5 times a week) because they have bad parents? :?
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#41 Cherokee_Jack
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False thread title.

The guy makes sense, though it's not remarkable logic to any of us; just common sense.

But there are always enough people with no common sense and a whole lot of ignorance, and enough pandering politicians, to get anything done.

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#42 h575309
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Maybe parents should be accountable for something for once.

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Ha I just wrote a paper on this subject not too long ago. Could have used this.
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Courts don't want to ban any video games, only restrict minors access to them, I agree wholeheartedly! Keep the kiddies off the games I play! :Pblue_hazy_basic
Violent games is very vague though, some FPS for e.g. are Teen, which is minor.
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#45 CDUB316
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Ha I just wrote a paper on this subject not too long ago. Could have used this. mrmusicman247

yea i did this in speech class 3 years ago...i got an A on it...HOORAY!

i've always been very passionate about this subject

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#46 Cherokee_Jack
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Should children be punished either mentally (from seeing or playing things they shouldn't) or physically (from eating MacD's 5 times a week) because they have bad parents? :?blue_hazy_basic

No.

Is it the government's prerogative to take charge and try to properly parent every kid in the country by brute force? Absolutely not.

It's a shame that not all parents can take care of their kids all that well, but...that's life. There are a hell of a lot more problems that come from bad parenting other than eating McDonald's all the time and playing GTA, and they can never be averted by the law. Unless you want parenting itself to be regulated, along with every other aspect of everyone's lives that doesn't work out 100% of the time.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Courts don't want to ban any video games, only restrict minors access to them, I agree wholeheartedly! Keep the kiddies off the games I play! :PSaltyMeatballs
Violent games is very vague though, some FPS for e.g. are Teen, which is minor.

Put an age system in like the UK, rate games by ages. If a game is rated teen then teenagers can play, how many 8 year olds go down to the store by themselves and buy a game? :D I don't think thats such a big deal
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#48 Wasdie  Moderator
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Umm, what court wants to ban violent video games. They just want to make it a criminal offense to sell M games to minors...

This isn't Australia.

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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Ha I just wrote a paper on this subject not too long ago. Could have used this. CDUB316

yea i did this in speech class 3 years ago...i got an A on it...HOORAY!

i've always been very passionate about this subject

Same here. My parents didn't allow me to play rated M games until I was 17. So i definitely believe parents are a giant role in this.
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#50 eyebrowless
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as long as they're just keeping mature games away from children, i'm fine with it. if they try and take them from me, then thats a problem