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#1 uninspiredcup
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Very sad, but very expected.

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2021-11-27-as-halo-infinite-cheating-begins-console-players-call-on-343-to-let-them-disable-crossplay

As Halo Infinite cheating begins, console players call on 343 to let them disable crossplay

A chief concern.

Halo Infinite multiplayer is out in the wild - and cheating has already begun.

Players have reported coming across cheaters in 343's free-to-play competitive shooter, whose multiplayer is still flagged as being in beta.

Halo Infinite does not let you turn off cross-play between PC and Xbox. However, in ranked arena players can choose whether they want to play with mouse and keyboard players or controller players. While this potentially leads to longer matchmaking times, some console players are setting up their games to play with controller players only in a bid to make it less likely they'll run up against PC cheaters.

Of course, PC players can play with a controller on Halo Infinite. There is currently no way for Xbox players to avoid playing with PC players who use a controller.

"This is one of the reasons many console users choose to not play on PC," said redditor Meiie in a post on r/XboxSeriesX titled "Now that cheating in Halo is confirmed on PC, can we have to option to opt out of cross-play?"

"Besides the ease of playing on console, avoiding PC cheaters has been my biggest reason for not playing on PC. Destiny, Warzone, BF, Apex.. tons of cheaters on PC. Never run into any when playing on console and opting out of cross-play.

"This is really important and I think not getting this option now is gonna spiral pretty hard into us players, on console, having to deal with infestation of cheaters currently on PC."

We've been here before. Last year, we reported on how Call of Duty: Warzone console players were turning off crossplay to escape PC cheaters. Cheating went on to blight Warzone, leading to Activision to announce a new anti-cheat system to go live in-game soon.

343 and Microsoft will be desperate to avoid Halo Infinite suffering similar reputational damage. Game companies face an uphill battle in the fight against cheating, but the hope is Halo Infinite can mitigate cheating as much as possible in the months ahead.

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#2 mowgly1
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For Xbox fans, do you see what it is said here :

Halo Infinite does not let you turn off cross-play between PC and Xbox. However, in ranked arena players can choose whether they want to play with mouse and keyboard players or controller players. While this potentially leads to longer matchmaking times, some console players are setting up their games to play with controller players only in a bid to make it less likely they'll run up against PC cheaters.

Of course, PC players can play with a controller on Halo Infinite. There is currently no way for Xbox players to avoid playing with PC players who use a controller.

Mentioned by numerous sites too. You can't disable crossplay even via settings on Xbox. It doesn't work. Otherwise it would be mentioned it does in that way

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#3 R4gn4r0k
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Cows keep telling me Infinite is a flop and nobody wants to play that trash.

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#4 mowgly1
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Cows keep telling me Infinite is a flop and nobody wants to play that trash.

Thanks for PC players for ruining this game. This is good, actually.

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@mowgly1 said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Cows keep telling me Infinite is a flop and nobody wants to play that trash.

Thanks for PC players for ruining this game. This is good, actually.

Can you really call yourself a gamer when you don't even play games, just wish for them to fail/die?

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#6  Edited By Random_Matt
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Must be pants on PC then, why else would you cheat? You wouldn't cheat if you liked the game right? Don't see how a cheater can get satisfaction by zero accomplishments.

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@R4gn4r0k: Halo Infinite is a flop and nobody wants to play that trash.

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#8  Edited By mowgly1
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@mowgly1 said:
@R4gn4r0k said:

Cows keep telling me Infinite is a flop and nobody wants to play that trash.

Thanks for PC players for ruining this game. This is good, actually.

Can you really call yourself a gamer when you don't even play games, just wish for them to fail/die?

Regarding Halo, definitely. :D

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#9 PC_Rocks
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Is it really cheating or people complaining because they are getting their a$$es kicked?

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#10 sakaiXx  Online
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Why would anyone even cheat in skill based game? Oh, those PC losers.

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#11 R4gn4r0k
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@SolidGame_basic said:

@R4gn4r0k: Halo Infinite is a flop and nobody wants to play that trash.

Thanks man!

I can't wait to play it haha, I'm not even sure why though. I played 2 hours of Far Cry 6 and was sick to death of that game.

Still, Halo could be fun :)

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#12 Mesome713
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Throw these hackers and modders in jail.

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#13 DaVillain  Moderator
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Meh, all I care about is the Campaign and as for cross-play, can't say I even care about it.

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#14  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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Doubt it's PC gamers. PC gamers tend to have millions of games in our STEAM libraries, on account of PC games being so much cheaper and all... Plus we all pirate everything, so have many, many better games to play instead of wasting time cheating on Halo (lol).

More likey it's Sony fiends. They all have gaming PCs too, you know... but they only play console games (for some reason), which cost an arm and a leg. Ergo, they've got nothing better to do, and it's most likely them.

Case closed.

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@sancho_panzer said:

Doubt it's PC gamers. PC gamers tend to have millions of games in their STEAM libraries, on account of PC games being so much cheaper and all... Plus we all pirate everything, so have many, many better games to play instead of wasting time cheating on Halo (lol).

More likey it's Sony fiends. They all have gaming PCs too, you know... but they only play console games (for some reason), which cost an arm and a leg. Ergo, they've got nothing better to do, and it's most likely them.

Case closed.

all the cows own top of the line pc's but choose to play all their games on playstation anyway, proof? these forums

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How sad it must be to have to cheat in a video game to make yourself feel better. This is why we can’t have nice things. 😔

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#17 mrbojangles25
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This isn't a PC problem, it's a 343 problem. Get better at implementing anti-cheat systems.

Cross-play is the future.

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#18 hardwenzen  Online
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Hermits are being destroyed in that game. Controller users with the aim assist are dominating so much that hermits have no other options but to cheat... or lose permanently. Since most PC gamers are simply not skilled enough to use a controller (they have a lot of trouble and cry on forums about it), they're hardstuck on mouse/kb, and that's not looking pretty for them.

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#19  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@hardwenzen: what aim assist?? There is no aim assist from what I can tell and ive played maybe 20 multi-player matches so far. I had to manually aim in all those matches.

I did get my ass kicked but I didn't feel like there was any cheating involved either, just a bunch of skilled players.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is happening though, a lot of PC gamers have no life. These cheats always show up.

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#20 Pedro
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@mrbojangles25: PC is the problem The reason they having a cheating problem is because it is in PC. 343 now has to combat that problem.

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@howmakewood said:
@sancho_panzer said:

Doubt it's PC gamers. PC gamers tend to have millions of games in their STEAM libraries, on account of PC games being so much cheaper and all... Plus we all pirate everything, so have many, many better games to play instead of wasting time cheating on Halo (lol).

More likey it's Sony fiends. They all have gaming PCs too, you know... but they only play console games (for some reason), which cost an arm and a leg. Ergo, they've got nothing better to do, and it's most likely them.

Case closed.

all the cows own top of the line pc's but choose to play all their games on playstation anyway, proof? these forums

Yep. Gotta grind that platinums.

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#22  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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Glad I'm not interested in Infinite's PvP but there should always be an option to disable cross-play.

It would be nice if the PC version matched people by controller type in regular matches as well, but with cheating that becomes moot.

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#23 BassMan  Online
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Yeah, well, us PC users would like to disassociate with cheaters too. Fucking cheaters are the worst.

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#24 pyro1245
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This is why all games should have self-hosted servers which can be moderated by the community.

You could still have a hundreds of people in a discord or something. Pretty easy to figure out who is cheating and ban them from the server.

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#25 BenjaminBanklin
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Xbots still care about Halo? I thought it was all about the car games on Xbox now since they take less skill. 🤣

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#26  Edited By Howmakewood
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@sakaixx said:
@howmakewood said:
@sancho_panzer said:

Doubt it's PC gamers. PC gamers tend to have millions of games in their STEAM libraries, on account of PC games being so much cheaper and all... Plus we all pirate everything, so have many, many better games to play instead of wasting time cheating on Halo (lol).

More likey it's Sony fiends. They all have gaming PCs too, you know... but they only play console games (for some reason), which cost an arm and a leg. Ergo, they've got nothing better to do, and it's most likely them.

Case closed.

all the cows own top of the line pc's but choose to play all their games on playstation anyway, proof? these forums

Yep. Gotta grind that platinums.

yea man, +10points to do some tedious shit, sign me up

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#27 regnaston
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I am not a Halo fan personally but IMO regarding cheating they need to do perma bans on people who do that crap (regardless of the game)

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#28  Edited By Gatygun
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all console gamers cheat and still get dumpstered by PC gamers.

Hahaha

Also game is trash, don't have full screen option, don't have dlss or RT. runs like shit 70 fps at 3440x1440 on a 3080. and shooting a enemy is so bad in this game, that u need to shoot a entire clip into a enemy just to get there shield off.

Also visually it looks like a PS3 game, the tree's grass nothing moves or reacts in this game, no destruction, small corridor area's. What year is this.

But it makes all sense when u realize its builded for the most powerful console which basically means worse then budget hardware on PC.

No wonder pc gamers ditched the original halo.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen: what aim assist?? There is no aim assist from what I can tell and ive played maybe 20 multi-player matches so far. I had to manually aim in all those matches.

I did get my ass kicked but I didn't feel like there was any cheating involved either, just a bunch of skilled players.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is happening though, a lot of PC gamers have no life. These cheats always show up.

What? Aim assist is strong af on the controller. From what i am hearing, the global accuracy on the controller playlist is higher than the keyboard one. Its so much easier to track and stick to the head when using the BR. There's a lot of videos about this on youtube btw.

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@Pedro said:

@mrbojangles25: PC is the problem The reason they having a cheating problem is because it is in PC. 343 now has to combat that problem.

Exactly, it's up to 343.

Obviously PC users shouldn't cheat, but obviously people shouldn't murder or steal or hurt eachother, too. Yet here we are, dealing with it; we catch some, others get away with it.

Console players being like "Boo hoo I don't want to play with PC" is like....I don't know, NIMBY but for gaming.

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#31 Pedro
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@mrbojangles25 said:

Exactly, it's up to 343.

Obviously PC users shouldn't cheat, but obviously people shouldn't murder or steal or hurt eachother, too. Yet here we are, dealing with it; we catch some, others get away with it.

Console players being like "Boo hoo I don't want to play with PC" is like....I don't know, NIMBY but for gaming.

You have gone of the edge on this one. The comparison to murder, stealing and hurting other people has no relevance to the scope of this topic. The fact is that PC facilitates cheating. Saying it isn't a PC problem is downright false.

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#32 Fedor
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In the 21 hours I have in the MP I don't think I've come across a single cheater.

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#33 Pedro
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@fedor said:

In the 21 hours I have in the MP I don't think I've come across a single cheater.

Cheater confirmed. 😂

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#34  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@hardwenzen: thats bs. If there was aim assist, my own accuracy wouldn't be hovering around 35%. On my best day I pulled a 50%.

Honestly, I can't imagine pc gamers having worse than 35% accuracy

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#35  Edited By Sancho_Panzer
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@hardwenzen said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen: what aim assist?? There is no aim assist from what I can tell and ive played maybe 20 multi-player matches so far. I had to manually aim in all those matches.

I did get my ass kicked but I didn't feel like there was any cheating involved either, just a bunch of skilled players.

I wouldn't be surprised if it is happening though, a lot of PC gamers have no life. These cheats always show up.

What? Aim assist is strong af on the controller. From what i am hearing, the global accuracy on the controller playlist is higher than the keyboard one. Its so much easier to track and stick to the head when using the BR. There's a lot of videos about this on youtube btw.

Yup.

https://www.reddit.com/r/halo/comments/r3es60/accuracy_stats_for_kbm_vs_controller/

There's your rampant "PC cheaters" ^

It's only your ridiculous blooming controller aim assist, isn't it. That coupled with the advantage of superior performance (and raw FPS talent) on PC is probably all the occasional whingers are seeing.

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#36 hardwenzen  Online
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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@hardwenzen: thats bs. If there was aim assist, my own accuracy wouldn't be hovering around 35%. On my best day I pulled a 50%.

Honestly, I can't imagine pc gamers having worse than 35% accuracy

Maybe you're just shit?😊Look at the post above👀

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#37 simple-facts
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Cheating scum!

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#38 pelvist
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Iv encountered cheaters in MP before on PC but its nowhere near as bad as console gamers make it out to be, not even close. Most of the time its just a sore looser screaming "cheater!" when they get spanked by a better player.

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#39 flashn00b
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I kind of expected this to happen, but I remember mentioning how I made comments on how cross-platform multiplayer would really only work on 2D fighting games and co-op games.

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#40 hardwenzen  Online
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I wonder how bad its gonna be in BF2042 in a month from now.

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@hardwenzen said:

I wonder how bad its gonna be in BF2042 in a month from now.

People already turning off crossplay, and some console players can't find games. So...

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@jasonofa36 said:
@hardwenzen said:

I wonder how bad its gonna be in BF2042 in a month from now.

People already turning off crossplay, and some console players can't find games. So...

Very good. I wish DICE/EA the worse.

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LMAO now lems doesn't want cross play, but they were bashing Sony couple years back, because Sony predicted that this would happen.

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#44 Archangel3371
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I’ve played a ton of hours so far and I don’t think I’ve come across any cheaters yet myself. So far though I’ve only played 10 of the Ranked Match games to get my first ranking. The vast majority of other games have been Big Team Battle and the recent Fiesta matches. Cheaters probably mostly would play in the Ranked Matches I would assume.

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@daredevils2k said:

LMAO now lems doesn't want cross play, but they were bashing Sony couple years back, because Sony predicted that this would happen.

It's all sides complaining about different inputs. PC players complain about aim assist while controller players complain about PC hacks. Honestly though, I still like cross play because of the diverse amount of people you can meet and playing with friends/siblings on different platforms. I really don't care about cheaters and aim assist and advantages on different platforms.

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#46 MooseWayne
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Already? What are the cheats being used?

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#47 Archangel3371
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I still think that cross play is a very beneficial and great feature to have in games. There’s a whole slew of different types and genres of games where controller input types would necessarily have a big impact between players.

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#48 clone01
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@hardwenzen said:

Hermits are being destroyed in that game. Controller users with the aim assist are dominating so much that hermits have no other options but to cheat... or lose permanently. Since most PC gamers are simply not skilled enough to use a controller (they have a lot of trouble and cry on forums about it), they're hardstuck on mouse/kb, and that's not looking pretty for them.

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#49 SOedipus  Online
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Noobs always scream “cheater” when they get owned. PC gamers are just naturally better players. Get gud.

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#50 VFighter
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@SOedipus: 🤣 Thanks for the laugh.