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#1 DarthaPerkinjan
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Unless its a sports game, developers will always intentionally target 30fps because games can look better at 30fps then at 60fps. And games that look better sell better.

Its like the Unreal 5 demo. It could have run at 60fps and still looked great. But it wouldnt have looked as good as it does running at 30fps. In that type of game (adventure/Tomb Raider style) 30fps is just fine if it means a tastier visual experience.

On PS6, PS7, PS8 and on there will always be 30 fps games, and they will likely always be in the majority because developers will make the artistic/business choice for a better looking game instead of a smoother framerate.

So please, stop it with the low IQ, low effort posts complaining about not every game being 60fps.

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#2 Juub1990
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Lol at console plebs.

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@Juub1990 said:

Lol at console plebs.

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#6 Weird_Jerk
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I'm 76 years old, so I'm going to wait until the next stop on the complain train of 30 fps. I could use a lower IQ.

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Curious what kinda hardware that's currently available would run that UE5 demo at 60fps if any.

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#9 freedomfreak
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OP has a weird way of going about it, but he's not wrong.

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#10 hardwenzen
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Graphics do sell, but its not like the hardware inside next gen is weak like what we currently have inside the xbone/ps4, they can still have good graphics and 60fps, especially if there's 1080p/60fps mode. With the popularlity of DF, 60fps became much more in damand compared to what it was last gen. Have you ever even hard Phil (or anyone else from MS/Sony for that matter) mention 60fps last gen or earlier this gen? Its only now that 60fps is becoming an important asset. With time, i imagine more and more people will be waking up and ask for what should've been the standard for the last 15 years.

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#11  Edited By I_P_Daily
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I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

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#12 Ghosts4ever
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@i_p_daily said:

I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

Its been proven that in every gen, consoles are far behind PC.

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#13  Edited By I_P_Daily
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@ghosts4ever said:
@i_p_daily said:

I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

Its been proven that in every gen, consoles are far behind PC.

And every gen its a proven fact that hermits port beg console games, but, but PC are ahead LOL.

Also there will be more people playing on powerful consoles next gen than people playing on PC's more powerful than next gen consoles, including yours :)

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#14 IgGy621985
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This sounds like

reference

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@IgGy621985 said:

This sounds like

reference

Plus that game actually averaged at about 24FPS on consoles. Very 'cinematic' indeed.

Meanwhile PC can run this on ultra settings, 60fps.

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#16  Edited By BassMan
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@i_p_daily said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@i_p_daily said:

I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

Its been proven that in every gen, consoles are far behind PC.

And every gen its a proven fact that hermits port beg console games, but, but PC are ahead LOL.

Also there will be more people playing on powerful consoles next gen than people playing on PC's more powerful than next gen consoles, including yours :)

Console gamers beg for PC games all the time. I already owned u on The Laster Race argument. There are more games that start off on PC and later come to consoles than the other way around. So, that card is not available to you. Find another one to play.

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@i_p_daily said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@i_p_daily said:

I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

Its been proven that in every gen, consoles are far behind PC.

And every gen its a proven fact that hermits port beg console games, but, but PC are ahead LOL.

Also there will be more people playing on powerful consoles next gen than people playing on PC's more powerful than next gen consoles, including yours :)

but I dont want console games on PC.

you know you also hate sony movie games. thats all console games now.

microsoft/xbox games are now on PC with lead platform. even your forza play better on PC.

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@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:

And every gen its a proven fact that hermits port beg console games, but, but PC are ahead LOL.

Also there will be more people playing on powerful consoles next gen than people playing on PC's more powerful than next gen consoles, including yours :)

I already owned u on The Laster Race argument. There are more games that start off on PC and later come to consoles than the other way around. So, that card is not available to you. Find another one to play.

Plus everyone 'begs' for console games to be on PC because everyone with a bit of common sense would rather play games at 60+ fps instead of 30fps with dips to the low 20s. Which is simply not enjoyable.

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#19  Edited By BassMan
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@R4gn4r0k said:
@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:

And every gen its a proven fact that hermits port beg console games, but, but PC are ahead LOL.

Also there will be more people playing on powerful consoles next gen than people playing on PC's more powerful than next gen consoles, including yours :)

I already owned u on The Laster Race argument. There are more games that start off on PC and later come to consoles than the other way around. So, that card is not available to you. Find another one to play.

Plus everyone 'begs' for console games to be on PC because everyone with a bit of common sense would rather play games at 60+ fps instead of 30fps with dips to the low 20s. Which is simply not enjoyable.

Console 30fps with dips to the low 20s
Console 30fps with dips to the low 20s

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To me, 30 fps open-world action games on consoles aren't bad IMO.

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#21 Pedro
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Consistent framerates is what matters the most.

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#22 BassMan
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@mclarenmaster18 said:

To me, 30 fps open-world action games on consoles aren't bad IMO.

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@Pedro said:

Consistent high framerates is what matters the most.

Fixed

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@R4gn4r0k said:
@IgGy621985 said:

This sounds like

reference

Plus that game actually averaged at about 24FPS on consoles. Very 'cinematic' indeed.

Meanwhile PC can run this on ultra settings, 60fps.

That game still looks pretty damn good. No wonder it struggled to run on consoles.

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Lol consoles..

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@BassMan said:
@Pedro said:

Consistent high framerates is what matters the most.

Fixed

NO! And it would be consistently not consistent.

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@djoffer123 said:

Lol consoles..

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#28 IgGy621985
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@Pedro said:
@BassMan said:
@Pedro said:

Consistent high framerates is what matters the most.

Fixed

NO! And it would be consistently not consistent.

So you'd rather accept a consistent 25 fps than 60 fps?

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@Pedro said:
@BassMan said:
@Pedro said:

Consistent high framerates is what matters the most.

Fixed

NO! And it would be consistently not consistent.

I play at consistently high frame rates all the time on PC. G-Sync at high frame rates is bliss. I can also cap it to whatever frame rate I want if I don't want fluctuations.

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#30 Pedro
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@IgGy621985 said:

So you'd rather accept a consistent 25 fps than 60 fps?

"Consistent framerates is what matters the most."

Now, is an opportunity for you to critically think.

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#31 SecretPolice
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With SuperMighty XseX MonsterBox, 8K 120 fps will be the norm so I'm good. :P

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#32 BassMan
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@SecretPolice said:

With SuperMighty XseX MonsterBox, 8K 120 fps will be the norm so I'm good. :P

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#33 SecretPolice
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@BassMan said:
@SecretPolice said:

With SuperMighty XseX MonsterBox, 8K 120 fps will be the norm so I'm good. :P

What... Why??

lolol :P

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@SecretPolice said:
@BassMan said:
@SecretPolice said:

With SuperMighty XseX MonsterBox, 8K 120 fps will be the norm so I'm good. :P

What... Why??

lolol :P

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The whole console 30fps thing is overblown. There are games on consoles that are 60fps. Depends on the type of game it is. There are only certain games like Witcher 3 for example, where consoles really struggle. But even when I tried playing the PC version on my computer, I couldn't achieve 60fps on 1440p ultra wide. What am I going to do? Spend $500/$600 on a new graphics card? Nope. People who constantly buy new graphics card are a small minority of gamers.

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Umm.. k. lol

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I'm fine with 30fps but given the choice I'll go for 60fps every time. But between locked 30fps or a high frame rate mode like God of War that can't hold a consistent frame rate for more than 3 seconds I'll pick 30 locked.

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#38 BenjaminBanklin
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Championing for 30fps is such a broke ass console pleb move it hurts.

@i_p_daily said:

I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

You're arguing against better hardware now? Okay, don't buy an Xbox Series X since you're so content with what you have. 🤣

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So wanting better performance from a more powerful machine is low iq? 60 fps should be the standard. Games already look amazing, it's time to shift focus to performance. I don't want 30 fps with dips anymore.

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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Championing for 30fps is such a broke ass console pleb move it hurts.

@i_p_daily said:

I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

You're arguing against better hardware now? Okay, don't buy an Xbox Series X since you're so content with what you have. 🤣

Are you pretending to be a PC gamer again?😂🤣

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@Pedro said:

Are you pretending to be a PC gamer again?😂🤣

Just because you pretend to not be an Xbox stalwart doesn't mean everyone has the same mentality. 🤣

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@BassMan said:
@i_p_daily said:
@ghosts4ever said:
@i_p_daily said:

I will just say this, and that's the laster race needs to argue higher frame rates, I mean how else are they going to justify wasting so much money on their e-mail machines lol.

Its been proven that in every gen, consoles are far behind PC.

And every gen its a proven fact that hermits port beg console games, but, but PC are ahead LOL.

Also there will be more people playing on powerful consoles next gen than people playing on PC's more powerful than next gen consoles, including yours :)

Console gamers beg for PC games all the time. I already owned u on The Laster Race argument. There are more games that start off on PC and later come to consoles than the other way around. So, that card is not available to you. Find another one to play.

i have never seen any one here beg for a pc game. all ever see is if god of war or horizon zero dawn or uncharted on pc it can run on 60fps on a real machine i just bought for 3000 dollars. like we get it the 3000 machine is better than the 400 machine.

it was like that last gen with 360 games as well.

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This thread is so bad it keeps crashing Gamespot.

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Good job, OP!

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@DarthaPerkinjan said:

Its like the Unreal 5 demo. It could have run at 60fps and still looked great. But it wouldnt have looked as good as it does running at 30fps. In that type of game (adventure/Tomb Raider style) 30fps is just fine if it means a tastier visual experience.

and who could say no to a tastier visual experience? delicious bait

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#49  Edited By Pedro
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

Are you pretending to be a PC gamer again?😂🤣

Just because you pretend to not be an Xbox stalwart doesn't mean everyone has the same mentality. 🤣

Ok Sony fanny pretending to be a PC gamer.😂🤣

And like clock work, the Xbox is always on your mind.🤣

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@Juub1990 said:

Lol at console plebs.