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China is about to lift their ban on the sale of video game consoles and video games.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/10/technology/china-video-games/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Who benefits the most? I say MS because of the strong lingering resentment of Japan and all things Japanese that exists in China. What do you think?

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#2 Michael0134567
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MS wins.

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#3 XBOunity
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China is about to lift their ban on the sale of video game consoles and video games.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/07/10/technology/china-video-games/index.html?hpt=hp_t3

Who benefits the most? I say MS because of the strong lingering resentment of Japan and all things Japanese that exists in China. What do you think?

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MS WINS for sure, good news

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#4 XBOunity
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they like the KINECT

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#5 Mr-Kutaragi
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Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.
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Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.Mr-Kutaragi

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.XBOunity

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll: 

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PC wins. We all know e-sports are big there
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Expect a lot piracy from them  :shock:

 
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They pirated the hell out of that sh*t anyways.

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Expect a lot piracy from them  :shock:

 TheFadeForever

Yep.  This.

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[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.XBOunity

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

I think both are hate, since both are competitor of China and resentment. Xbox does not have lot of contents aim at asian consumer. "Although the new rules have not yet been made public, they are widely expected to allow the sale of gaming consoles once the Ministry of Culture approves them. That ministry spearheaded the ban on the sale of consoles more than a decade ago, citing concern about the content of video games." xbox dudebro games must be confirm? we do not know regulations of software. Or if appeal to chinese consumer taste... "China is expected to lift a 13-year ban on the sale of video game consoles, as long as they are manufactured within Shanghai's new free trade zone" this is already regulation. Does this mean only console that are manufacture in future? Do not see how anyone can say clear win, or even part for MS.
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.Jonwh18

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll: 

just a hunch, hope they sell well, good for them

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Not only that I beat the console games will be expensive as well which will encourage piracy even more

 
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Oh boy, X1 will now be the most pirated console in the game lol.
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Chinese make Xboxes, they don't play them :P
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Oh boy, X1 will now be the most pirated console in the game lol.II_Seraphim_II
shame about that DRM U-turn :P

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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.Jonwh18

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll: 

 

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII.  Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese.  I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids.  In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.

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this is almost a guaranteed win for ms considering how china has felt about japan since world war 2.

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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

davdwh5

I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll: 

 

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII.  Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese.  I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids.  In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.

i'll go into it but the mods will probably start complaining. it was genocide smh
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

davdwh5

I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll: 

 

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII.  Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese.  I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids.  In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.

they have all of our jobs, id love us too lol

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this is almost a guaranteed win for ms considering how china has felt about japan since world war 2.

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Yeah I wonder If they boycott the PS4.  They hate japans guts.

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[QUOTE="davdwh5"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"] I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll: 

XBOunity

 

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII.  Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese.  I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids.  In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.

they have all of our jobs, id love us too lol

we basically got thrown into the war protecting them. we were going to put a blockade on japan because of the testing and terrorizing they were doing and they attacked pearl harbor. that's the shortest version i could give u
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[QUOTE="AD216"]

this is almost a guaranteed win for ms considering how china has felt about japan since world war 2.

GOGOGOGURT

 

Yeah I wonder If they boycott the PS4.  They hate japans guts.

i would be surprised if they didnt honestly.
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.Mr-Kutaragi

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

I think both are hate, since both are competitor of China and resentment. Xbox does not have lot of contents aim at asian consumer. "Although the new rules have not yet been made public, they are widely expected to allow the sale of gaming consoles once the Ministry of Culture approves them. That ministry spearheaded the ban on the sale of consoles more than a decade ago, citing concern about the content of video games." xbox dudebro games must be confirm? we do not know regulations of software. Or if appeal to chinese consumer taste... "China is expected to lift a 13-year ban on the sale of video game consoles, as long as they are manufactured within Shanghai's new free trade zone" this is already regulation. Does this mean only console that are manufacture in future? Do not see how anyone can say clear win, or even part for MS.

well it is a huge market that can be up for grabs, they might like the KINECT, which I find is so strange that the console ban is lifted and all the NSA in regards to Kinect.     Maybe they wanna spy on us?    lol all in all im happy about this news, i think nothing wrong with consoles, PS4 and XBO are two very good ones the way things are shaping up.  

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[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="AD216"]

this is almost a guaranteed win for ms considering how china has felt about japan since world war 2.

AD216

 

Yeah I wonder If they boycott the PS4.  They hate japans guts.

i would be surprised if they didnt honestly.

 

Kaz would commit Hiri Kiri before chinese touch a PS4

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What a dull correlation to make. I'm sure they would go for the more asian orientated console regardless .
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[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

[QUOTE="davdwh5"]

 

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII.  Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese.  I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids.  In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.

AD216

they have all of our jobs, id love us too lol

we basically got thrown into the war protecting them. we were going to put a blockade on japan because of the testing and terrorizing they were doing and they attacked pearl harbor. that's the shortest version i could give u

very interesting,  yes i do think at least XBO has a chance now, in Japan its kinda obvious that an american console has no chance.  

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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

Yeah I wonder If they boycott the PS4.  They hate japans guts.

GOGOGOGURT

i would be surprised if they didnt honestly.

 

Kaz would commit Hiri Kiri before chinese touch a PS4

:lol:
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[QUOTE="MBirdy88"]What a dull correlation to make. I'm sure they would go for the more asian orientated console regardless .

that would be like jewish people supporting germany
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this is almost a guaranteed win for ms considering how china has felt about japan since world war 2.

AD216

 

Also on the bright side if sales pick up in China there is more corporate tax raised to pay of the debt to them.

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#32 AD216
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[QUOTE="AD216"]

this is almost a guaranteed win for ms considering how china has felt about japan since world war 2.

muffin200

 

Also on the bright side if sales pick up in China there is more corporate tax raised to pay of the debt to them.

lmao i guess that is a bright side. it would take forever but i guess u have to start some where
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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

davdwh5

I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll: 

 

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII.  Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese.  I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids.  In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.

Off topic, but almost every old culture passes down hatred of a certain race of people or whatnot, for something that was done in the past, sadly.
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chinesse identify more with japanesse style of games so i think its better for ps4, as for microsoft or sony i dont think they like either xD

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[QUOTE="Jonwh18"]

[QUOTE="XBOunity"]

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason. China will be an interesting market.

davdwh5

I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll:

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII. Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese. I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids. In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.


Why would they? We got invaded by Germany in WWII and nobody gives a rat's ass

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[QUOTE="davdwh5"]

[QUOTE="Jonwh18"] I see you have a good concrete foundation to back up your prediction. :roll:

Davekeeh

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII. Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese. I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids. In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.


Why would they? We got invaded by Germany in WWII and nobody gives a rat's ass

they were doing nuclear test in china. its a lot of resentment.
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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="davdwh5"]

A little history, Japan invaded China during WWII. Not going too deep into this, but generally, most older adults strongly hate Japenese. I'm not too sure about the new generation of kids today, but i'm sure its knowledge that has been passed on to their kids. In comparison, lots Chinese idiolize America.

AD216


Why would they? We got invaded by Germany in WWII and nobody gives a rat's ass

they were doing nuclear test in china. its a lot of resentment.


Germany bombed our city's to the ground

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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Why would they? We got invaded by Germany in WWII and nobody gives a rat's ass

Davekeeh

they were doing nuclear test in china. its a lot of resentment.


Germany bombed our city's to the ground

they did to china what germany did to the jews without concentration camps. i can almost guarantee u there is almost nothing from japan selling in china
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In all honesty, I don't think the next gen consoles will launch there for another two years and it will be a limited market.  The PS3, on the other hand, being BluRay will be BIG there.  XBox 360 games are far too easily pirated for MS to want to try for big growth in that market.

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="AD216"] they were doing nuclear test in china. its a lot of resentment. AD216


Germany bombed our city's to the ground

they did to china what germany did to the jews without concentration camps. i can almost guarantee u there is almost nothing from japan selling in china


It's all in the past, the new generation doesn't give a shit
But I can still see how the older generation hates Japan and they have the right to

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In all honesty, I don't think the next gen consoles will launch there for another two years and it will be a limited market.  The PS3, on the other hand, being BluRay will be BIG there.  XBox 360 games are far too easily pirated for MS to want to try for big growth in that market.

Shewgenja

This... They don't have much money to spend on things. People are put up as gold farmers and factory workers making peanuts. Hell they have fences around the top of the buildings because if they didn't people would kill themselves.

 

 

Regardless China will do what it always does (at least hong kong style) and make loads of knock-off PrayStation4 and Xblox One.... I call it now (well maybe not those names but something that is close but not exactly that. How many fake wii's where there made from them after the wii hit big...a lot!)

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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
Germany bombed our city's to the ground

Davekeeh

they did to china what germany did to the jews without concentration camps. i can almost guarantee u there is almost nothing from japan selling in china


It's all in the past, the new generation doesn't give a shit
But I can still see how the older generation hates Japan and they have the right to

china is a traditional country. that hatred is passed down from generation to generation. they know the history of those 2 countries and there is absolutely no way a japanese product will succeed there.
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To be completely fair most of the people that experienced the tyranny of WW2 are now dead, I'd be surprised the younger generation would pass up such a business opporutnity by boycotting the ps4, the chinese tend to be shrewd businessmen.

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[QUOTE="Davekeeh"]

[QUOTE="AD216"] they did to china what germany did to the jews without concentration camps. i can almost guarantee u there is almost nothing from japan selling in chinaAD216


It's all in the past, the new generation doesn't give a shit
But I can still see how the older generation hates Japan and they have the right to

china is a traditional country. that hatred is passed down from generation to generation. they know the history of those 2 countries and there is absolutely no way a japanese product will succeed there.

I don;t know about that... its been a long time now. People need to get over stuff. The japanese living now didn't do that to them it was their grandparents. Racism is bs and it needs to stop no matter who it is. People need to move on! My cousin is half-chinese, and she married a Japanese guy, her dad (full chinese) doesn't have any problem with him, there was no bad blood over race. I think you are making more into this than it needs to be. Products shouldn't not be bought over race. Also they will just make their own knock off versions anyway and sell them for super cheap as the Chinese are piss poor in that country.
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[QUOTE="AD216"][QUOTE="Davekeeh"]
It's all in the past, the new generation doesn't give a shit
But I can still see how the older generation hates Japan and they have the right toMidnightshade29
china is a traditional country. that hatred is passed down from generation to generation. they know the history of those 2 countries and there is absolutely no way a japanese product will succeed there.

I don;t know about that... its been a long time now. People need to get over stuff. The japanese living now didn't do that to them it was their grandparents. Racism is bs and it needs to stop no matter who it is. People need to move on! My cousin is half-chinese, and she married a Japanese guy, her dad (full chinese) doesn't have any problem with him, there was no bad blood over race. I think you are making more into this than it needs to be. Products shouldn't not be bought over race. Also they will just make their own knock off versions anyway and sell them for super cheap as the Chinese are piss poor in that country.

it's not me man it's how life is. time doesnt heal all wounds. america is still trying to build a relationship with japan after the hiroshima incident. it's not always easy to forgive. especially in a country like china where tradition and history means so much to them
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Member since 2008 • 2981 Posts

Please before we make all these claims generalizing over a billion people and their opinions, back it up with some primary sources. History isn't that straightforward and misconceptions fly about all the time. 

 

THINGS TO CONSIDER: What type of people in China enjoy video games? How old are they and what period of modern Chinese history have they lived through? Does this upbringing affect how they view Japanese and Americans, and if so why? Does the ban on video games affect how they view the medium and what type of people would this attract? Do political sentimend even matter? Will gaming tastes and console price be the real judge?

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#48 meetroid8
Member since 2005 • 21152 Posts

[QUOTE="Mr-Kutaragi"]Yes, Chinese just loving Americans, especially after Snowden fiascos.XBOunity

its actually big news, i think they like americans more than they do japanese for some reason.    China will be an interesting market.

You think so? I can't imagine why. It's almost as if the Japanese invaded their country and slaughtered thousands of Chinese women and children or something.
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#49 SUD123456
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There are quite a few posters who apparently do not have a good grasp of anti-japanese sentiment in China. This is a very real thing and it is not just a handful of old people. Last year there was widespread rioting and torching of Japanese businesses in China in many major cities just because of the ongoing dispute over a tiny island that is claimed by both countries.

For those who don't have any real understanding of this situation, I leave you this little tidbit.

http://japandailypress.com/chinese-courts-convict-12-people-for-anti-japanese-attacks-in-2012-0831858

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#50 cloudff7tm
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[QUOTE="Shewgenja"]

In all honesty, I don't think the next gen consoles will launch there for another two years and it will be a limited market.  The PS3, on the other hand, being BluRay will be BIG there.  XBox 360 games are far too easily pirated for MS to want to try for big growth in that market.

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Hell they have fences around the top of the buildings because if they didn't people would kill themselves.

 

 

Wow,  you serious? That sucks....

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