Chief architect of Scorpio and Scarlett leaves MS for Intel!

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#1  Edited By R-Gamer
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.businesstimes.cn/amp/articles/113688/20190614/microsofts-chief-architect-for-xbox-now-works-for-intel.htm

That doesn't sound good. Leaving the company before your new product is finished? Could this be a problem for MS? Looks like Lord Cerny got MS shook.

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#2 lundy86_4
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Or... Or... That job was better for him in terms of advancement/pay/bemefits/location/any other number of things. Don't speculate when there's not much to speculate on.

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#3 R-Gamer
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@lundy86_4: to leave in the middle of a project? Come on bro.

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#4  Edited By lundy86_4
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@r-gamer: The middle of what project? Scarlett? I'm going to assume that they're largely finalized... Regardless, people move on to other positions for a multitude of reasons. Come on bro.

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#5 Fedor
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@r-gamer: Imagine you received an offer for a job that gave you a better quality of life. Would you turn it down because you're in the middle of some project?

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#6 R-Gamer
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@fedor: Dude was probably making bank at MS.

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#7 lundy86_4
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@r-gamer: Now he's making bigger bank. Dude, you're just speculating.

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#8 R-Gamer
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@lundy86_4: The product isn't finished though. Even if he did leave for more pay, conveince, quality of life etc... I don't see how this is good for MS.

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#9  Edited By lundy86_4
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@r-gamer: We can't see anything, because we don't know. You are taking an article and trying to spin as hard as possible.

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#10 lundy86_4
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I'm arguing with an alt... Why?

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#11  Edited By R-Gamer
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@lundy86_4: I'm not trying to spin anything. My topic states exactly what the article says. I didn't spin anything.

I'm no alt. This forum is pretty dead though.

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#12 lundy86_4
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@r-gamer said:

@lundy86_4: The product isn't finished though. Even if he did leave for more pay, conveince, quality of life etc... I don't see how this is good for MS.

Spin. We literally don't know. There are a multitude of reasons to leave gainful employment.

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#13 deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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Jumping ship. Plain and simple.

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#14 NoodleFighter
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I don't see the big deal since it's not like they're building hardware from scratch. They're just cramming whatever AMD makes into it.

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#15 lundy86_4
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@subspecies said:

Jumping ship. Plain and simple.

Not jumping ship. Plain and simple.

Seems we have about the same amount of facts to back ourselves up.

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#16 Pedro
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@lundy86_4 said:

I'm arguing with an alt... Why?

I was wondering the same.
I was wondering the same.

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#17 Shewgenja
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I guess Scarlet will be beta tested in the future lol

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@r-gamer said:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/en.businesstimes.cn/amp/articles/113688/20190614/microsofts-chief-architect-for-xbox-now-works-for-intel.htm

That doesn't sound good. Leaving the company before your new product is finished? Could this be a problem for MS? Looks like Lord Cerny got MS shook.

Yeah like the Pro. LMFAO

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#19 lundy86_4
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@Pedro said:
I was wondering the same.
I was wondering the same.

The bug takes you sometimes...

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#20 deactivated-5f2b4872031c2
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@lundy86_4: ;)

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#21 watercrack445
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I can't wait.

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#22 lundy86_4
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@subspecies: Sure... ;)

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#23  Edited By DaVillain-  Moderator
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Intel has been busy getting more and more key developers for their upcoming GPU cause they wanna compete with Nvidia & AMD graphics card market since they know that's were the true money's at. Intel getting key console developer is another win for Intel. I for one looking forward what Intel brings to the GPU market, the more GPU brand the better for competition.

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#24 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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To be honest based on the E3 reveal when one of the team said that Scarlet would be the first time EVER that you can get real time ray tracing... I am not surprised if people jump ship, either they are stupid or they just want to exploit the stupid neither are a good answer as to why a hardware reveal promo would have a blatantly false information in it.

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#25 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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This is like when people make threats about _____ developer leaving _____ studio before their game releases. Heck we even saw this during Uncharted 4.

They're probably just done their job there (or most of it) and are moving on.

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#26  Edited By Zero_epyon
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@lundy86_4 said:

Or... Or... That job was better for him in terms of advancement/pay/bemefits/location/any other number of things. Don't speculate when there's not much to speculate on.

Or...Orr... Scarlet is actually finished and what's left is manufacturing and marketing which isn't in his job description. People forget that a console is finished way before its release.

EDIT: Just saw your other reply which was basically this.

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#27 I_P_Daily  Online
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Is this quacks new alt?

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#28 Zero_epyon
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

To be honest based on the E3 reveal when one of the team said that Scarlet would be the first time EVER that you can get real time ray tracing... I am not surprised if people jump ship, either they are stupid or they just want to exploit the stupid neither are a good answer as to why a hardware reveal promo would have a blatantly false information in it.

Keep in mind that Sony made exactly the same comments on their system a few weeks prior. No one seems to be jumping ship over there, to my knowledge. So maybe we wait until real specs are released before we claim that the info is false?

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How much architecting do you think is being done at this point? At this point most of the power is in AMD’s hands to deliver clock-speeds and cooling. The Xbox folks are all sitting back and twiddling their thumbs right. Now Intel has some work to do. It’s the perfect situation for someone looking to get their hands dirty

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@Zero_epyon said:

Or...Orr... Scarlet is actually finished and what's left is manufacturing and marketing which isn't in his job description. People forget that a console is finished way before its release.

EDIT: Just saw your other reply which was basically this.

Yeah, this is really a non-issue. I'm interested to find out if this is a new user or not lol.

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#31 Heil68
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@subspecies said:

Jumping ship. Plain and simple.

Probably lack of games and MS unwilling to focus on the gamer.

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#32  Edited By Shewgenja
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I know if there is any company we can trust to get a console right in the design phase, its Microsoft.

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#33  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@Zero_epyon said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

To be honest based on the E3 reveal when one of the team said that Scarlet would be the first time EVER that you can get real time ray tracing... I am not surprised if people jump ship, either they are stupid or they just want to exploit the stupid neither are a good answer as to why a hardware reveal promo would have a blatantly false information in it.

Keep in mind that Sony made exactly the same comments on their system a few weeks prior. No one seems to be jumping ship over there, to my knowledge. So maybe we wait until real specs are released before we claim that the info is false?

What?...

No its false as in its not the first time ever that we have real time ray tracing, Nvidia RTX cards came out 9 months ago.

And so Sony didn't mention Ray Tracing.

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#34  Edited By locus-solus
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Intel has been poaching high profile tech engineers for awhile. Raja Koduri left AMD for Intel, think Raja Koduri was in charge of AMD graphic? they're more examples just don't know there names off the top of my head.

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#35 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@i_p_daily said:

Is this quacks new alt?

Tagging "R-Gamer" now!

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@i_p_daily said:

Is this quacks new alt?

was quad a right-winger?

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#37 Archangel3371
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Meh. He’s probably just done his job there and is moving on. Seems like pretty much a non-story thing here to me.

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#38 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@Archangel3371 said:

Meh. He’s probably just done his job there and is moving on. Seems like pretty much a non-story thing here to me.

I just assume Scarlet's development is already done, just the outer shell is all that's left and the way I see it, Phil Spencer wasn't shy about sharing details at E3 2019, if anything, John Sell did his part in the development. Contract is done and he can go whatever he wants.

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#39 tormentos
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Probably got more money better benefits i would have done the same.

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#40 tormentos
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

To be honest based on the E3 reveal when one of the team said that Scarlet would be the first time EVER that you can get real time ray tracing... I am not surprised if people jump ship, either they are stupid or they just want to exploit the stupid neither are a good answer as to why a hardware reveal promo would have a blatantly false information in it.

That is not the only thing they claim as first ever,they also say first time 8k and first time 120FPS and claim it was unheard of.

The sad part is they never stated on the console market to make it clear.

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Intel is screwed

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@lundy86_4 said:

Or... Or... That job was better for him in terms of advancement/pay/bemefits/location/any other number of things. Don't speculate when there's not much to speculate on.

Its almost as if people never move onto better things. Maybe the guy did such a great job with MS that intel was willing to improve his life style significantly in order to pry him from MS.

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#43 Archangel3371
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@davillain-: Yep. That seems like the most likely scenario.

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@EG101 said:

Its almost as if people never move onto better things. Maybe the guy did such a great job with MS that intel was willing to improve his life style significantly in order to pry him from MS.

Exactly. We just have no idea... I suspect there was a significant pay-bump, along with notable benefits. Why would Intel offer a sizable position otherwise?

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Microsoft buying Intel confirmed. See Elop and Nokia.

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@Pedro said:
@lundy86_4 said:

I'm arguing with an alt... Why?

I was wondering the same.
I was wondering the same.

I saw this and was gonna ask you why you wasted your time trying to explain to Ron why he was wrong in that other thread as well. Why?

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@X_CAPCOM_X said:

I saw this and was gonna ask you why you wasted your time trying to explain to Ron why he was wrong in that other thread as well. Why?

Twas fun. :)

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#48  Edited By X_CAPCOM_X
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@Pedro said:
@X_CAPCOM_X said:

I saw this and was gonna ask you why you wasted your time trying to explain to Ron why he was wrong in that other thread as well. Why?

Twas fun. :)

I admit, I was chuckling reading through it. You did provide the goods there as far as entertainment goes. lol

EDIT: especially the part where he used the screencap of your post that drove your point in harder.

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#49 Pedro
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@X_CAPCOM_X: He broke. LOL

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#50 BassMan
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I am the chief architect of my PC and it is better than Xbox Scarlett. Maybe I should get a job at Intel too. hehe :)