C2D 6300 + 8600Ultra>>>>>>>>Cell+RSX

Hermits. :roll:

Then you have to get a good mobo and good RAM.

Probably around $600 maybe $700 with a decent case+power supply
XBebop

Yep, console fanboys have no sense of price when it comes to high-end PC's. To runs Crysis well, all you need is a C2D, which are getting cheap soon, an 8600 Ultra, less then 200, and 1.5 gigs of Ram. Seeing as all PC's come with at least 512, buy an extra stick for 80 bucks and you're all set.evilbarbarian

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That's a nice video card and CPU combo but I don't see the price of RAM, storage, motherboard, power supply, heatsink and fans, case, monitor, keyboard, mouse, optical drives, speakers, operating system...

Care to total that up for us?
TekkenMaster606

To build a PC from the ground up that outclasses the ps3 or 360 would set you back about £800. Mrkebab

7950 + P945D > Cell+RSX.............................................. and it's much cheaper?Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="TekkenMaster606"]That's a nice video card and CPU combo but I don't see the price of RAM, storage, motherboard, power supply, heatsink and fans, case, monitor, keyboard, mouse, optical drives, speakers, operating system...

Care to total that up for us?
trix5817

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]7950 + P945D > Cell+RSX.............................................. and it's much cheaper?primetime2121

[QUOTE="Mrkebab"]To build a PC from the ground up that outclasses the ps3 or 360 would set you back about £800. Vandalvideo

Yes it could if you dont desire to play with high spec settings or drop your res / AA after about a year and a half.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Mrkebab"]To build a PC from the ground up that outclasses the ps3 or 360 would set you back about £800. Mrkebab

Yes it could if you dont desire to play with high spec settings or drop your res / AA after about a year and a half.

[QUOTE="Mrkebab"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Mrkebab"]To build a PC from the ground up that outclasses the ps3 or 360 would set you back about £800. Vandalvideo

Yes it could if you dont desire to play with high spec settings or drop your res / AA after about a year and a half.

I actually think the graphical gap between PC's and Consoles will widen this gen now that the ps3 and 360 have moved into PC resolutions. That is if PC developers get their fingers out and make use of of all this power available to them.

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Mrkebab"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Mrkebab"]To build a PC from the ground up that outclasses the ps3 or 360 would set you back about £800. Mrkebab

Yes it could if you dont desire to play with high spec settings or drop your res / AA after about a year and a half.

I actually think the graphical gap between PC's and Consoles will widen this gen now that the ps3 and 360 have moved into PC resolutions. That is if PC developers get their fingers out and make use of of all this power available to them.

I thought SLi 7800s and a E6300 was better than a PS3... :?foxhound_fox

It's pretty pointless to buy a NVIDIA 8800Ultra when you could drop down pointless game effects with lower model card.

but can it play VF5, Heavenly Sword and White Knight Story?  :DDementedDragon

http://ps3.qj.net/Havok-4-5-Enjoy-ALL-your-SPUs-in-FULL-PS3/pg/49/aid/80351

"Havok 4.0 on a PS3 Cell ran comparable to a triple-core PC. Now, if Havok's PR is to be believed, multiply that by 5 to 10."

if true, kinda puts quad cores to shame

[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]but can it play VF5, Heavenly Sword and White Knight Story? :DSpartan070

[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]but can it play VF5, Heavenly Sword and White Knight Story?  :DSpartan070

Exclusives?  You mean like Quake Wars, Crysis, Stalker, Alan Wake, C&C3, the Halo series, Gears of War and any number of other AAA games that are on PC and not PS3?

http://ps3.qj.net/Havok-4-5-Enjoy-ALL-your-SPUs-in-FULL-PS3/pg/49/aid/80351

"Havok 4.0 on a PS3 Cell ran comparable to a triple-core PC. Now, if Havok's PR is to be believed, multiply that by 5 to 10."

if true, kinda puts quad cores to shame

Tails10

Well first of all, Havok 4.5 is supposed to improve performance on all multicore architectures, not just Cell so the difference wouldn't be 5-10 times which is no doubt a huge exageration in the first place.  Second we have no idea what "triple-core" CPU they were using since no such CPU exists.  They may have merely been extrapolating performance from a dual core P4 ruuning at slow speeds.

My second point is that even if Cells architecture does lend itself particularly well to physics, that doesn't mean its well suitaed to other CPU tasks.  certainly it gets creamed by even one core of the Quad for anything that relies on more general purpose performance.  So AI, scripting and overall game control will suffer in comparison.

And my final point is that there are other devices in a PC which can handle physics to an even greater extend than a quad core CPU.  Namely the PPU and a DX10 GPU.

Anyway, until I see some real world examples of Cell vs Core2 Quad in Havok 4.5 then im taking this with a pinch of salt.

[QUOTE="Tails10"]

http://ps3.qj.net/Havok-4-5-Enjoy-ALL-your-SPUs-in-FULL-PS3/pg/49/aid/80351

"Havok 4.0 on a PS3 Cell ran comparable to a triple-core PC. Now, if Havok's PR is to be believed, multiply that by 5 to 10."

if true, kinda puts quad cores to shame

Only_the_Truth

Well first of all, Havok 4.5 is supposed to improve performance on all multicore architectures, not just Cell so the difference wouldn't be 5-10 times which is no doubt a huge exageration in the first place.  Second we have no idea what "triple-core" CPU they were using since no such CPU exists.  They may have merely been extrapolating performance from a dual core P4 ruuning at slow speeds.

My second point is that even if Cells architecture does lend itself particularly well to physics, that doesn't mean its well suitaed to other CPU tasks.  certainly it gets creamed by even one core of the Quad for anything that relies on more general purpose performance.  So AI, scripting and overall game control will suffer in comparison.

And my final point is that there are other devices in a PC which can handle physics to an even greater extend than a quad core CPU.  Namely the PPU and a DX10 GPU.

Anyway, until I see some real world examples of Cell vs Core2 Quad in Havok 4.5 then im taking this with a pinch of salt.

fair dues, hence why i put "IF TRUE"

its kind of a protection from ownage and just a link giving info :)

Wait...it's the Hermit who thinks he's God. Woo Hoo! God, why is modding absolutely the only way to enjoy games? Why is it the KB/Mouse combination the only way to enjoy games?

I am not saying that those things are not a plus in gaming....they really are.

Since you think that you're opinions = facts....