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#1 Master_ShakeXXX
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http://www.gamerankings.com/ps3/638785-borderlands-2/index.html

http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/938738-guild-wars-2/index.html

Well that pretty much makes it official. You know me, I hate to play favorites, but this GW2 = GOTY nonsense had to be stopped eventually. Now that we know Borderlands 2 is truly the best game this year, a revolutionary action RPG masterpiece of the highest order, a grand testament to Gearbox's pivotal transformation from being simply talented devs to masters of their craft, the only question remains, where will Borderlands 2 take it's place in the pantheon of classic RPGs?

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only the ps3 version which we all know is the worst :lol:
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#3 free_milk
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One is a fps rpg the other is an mmorpg why are you comparing them Either way you think COD killstreaks are balanced so I dont expect much from you
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http://www.gamerankings.com/pc/638786-borderlands-2/index.html GTFO
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#6 Vaasman
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http://www.gamespot.com/diablo-iii/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/borderlands-2/platform/pc/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/guild-wars-2/platform/pc/9.0

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A) Far fewer reviews

B) Expectations for GW2 were astronomical

C) PC-Only Publications traditionally have a much harsher grading scale(I don't know of a single major PC publication that has ever given out a "perfect" score, whereas major console publications seem offer them up like high fives to any game that they find particularly fun.)

Also:

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/guild-wars-2/critic-reviews

http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/borderlands-2/critic-reviews

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only the ps3 version which we all know is the worst :lol:SamiRDuran

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-borderlands-2-screenshot-comparison/

Actually, according to the professionals over at lensoftruth, the 360 version is the worst.

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You never give up, do you?
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[QUOTE="free_milk"]One is a fps rpg the other is an mmorpg why are you comparing them Either way you think COD killstreaks are balanced so I dont expect much from you

Doubtful. Treyarch and IW have far more experience with balancing out killstreaks and loadouts. Say what you will about CoD but these are the guys who pretty much invented these mechanics. Nobody else is better at them,Master_ShakeXXX
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#12 LittleMac19
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Mass Effect 3: 59 reviews: 92.12 Borderlands 2: 13 Reviews: 92.12 Mass Effect 3 wins :)
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#13 Master_ShakeXXX
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http://www.gamespot.com/diablo-iii/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/borderlands-2/platform/pc/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/guild-wars-2/platform/pc/9.0

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Vaasman

Pah-leez. Everybody knows that the GS review is a hoax. The reviewer outright admits that Borderlands 2 is vastly superior to the original in every way yet awards it the same score. Lies.

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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]only the ps3 version which we all know is the worst :lol:Master_ShakeXXX

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-borderlands-2-screenshot-comparison/

Actually, according to the professionals over at lensoftruth, the 360 version is the worst.

Lens Of Truth is crap.

Digital Foundry is the only site worth mentioning if you even want to try to discuss technical comparisons between platforms.

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]only the ps3 version which we all know is the worst :lol:KingsMessenger

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-borderlands-2-screenshot-comparison/

Actually, according to the professionals over at lensoftruth, the 360 version is the worst.

Lens Of Truth is crap.

Digital Foundry is the only site worth mentioning.

Digital Foundry is a joke. Lens Of Truth is made up of highly experienced and respected pros from the video game business.

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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-borderlands-2-screenshot-comparison/

Actually, according to the professionals over at lensoftruth, the 360 version is the worst.

Master_ShakeXXX

Lens Of Truth is crap.

Digital Foundry is the only site worth mentioning.

Digital Foundry is a joke. Lens Of Truth is made up of highly experienced and respected pros from the video game business.

Lens of Crap just posts screenshots without any context of performance. Furthermore, they have on MULTIPLE occassions been known to have gotten their screenshots mixed up such that the PS3 labeled shots are Xbox 360 shots and vice-versa. And they never post corrections.

Also, Digital Foundry has FAR more qualified people to do any form of technical analysis.

Beyond3D is full of industry professionals and they prefer Digital Foundry, and consider Lens of Truth to be an utter joke.

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

http://www.gamespot.com/diablo-iii/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/borderlands-2/platform/pc/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/guild-wars-2/platform/pc/9.0

Your tears are delicious to me.

Master_ShakeXXX

Pah-leez. Everybody knows that the GS review is a hoax. The reviewer outright admits that Borderlands 2 is vastly superior to the original in every way yet awards it the same score. Lies.

As the quality of gaming experiences naturally improves over time, we do not simply rate new games higher, even if they're technically better. Instead, we adjust our expectations and continually recalibrate our numeric rating scale accordingly. What this means in practice is that a high score awarded today by GameSpot is worth more than if we awarded the same score yesterday. In other words, a game that earns a high score today is probably superior in overall quality to a game that earned the same score on our scale several years ago. Gamespot

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The only "hoax" here is you... ;)

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[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

http://www.gamespot.com/diablo-iii/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/borderlands-2/platform/pc/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/guild-wars-2/platform/pc/9.0

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Master_ShakeXXX

Pah-leez. Everybody knows that the GS review is a hoax. The reviewer outright admits that Borderlands 2 is vastly superior to the original in every way yet awards it the same score. Lies.

You should tell the reviewer that. Maybe he'll change the review.

http://www.gamespot.com/users/Chris_Watters/

Here is his profile make sure you tell him you think he is a liar.

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[QUOTE="free_milk"] Either way you think COD killstreaks are balanced so I dont expect much from you

:lol: does he really? oh wow :lol:
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#20 Chuubby
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How many GOTY's can one person have ? :roll:

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#21 organic_machine
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8.5

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#22 turtlethetaffer
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Well considering I don't like MMO's and I loved the first Borderlands, I'd be inclined to agree.

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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-borderlands-2-screenshot-comparison/

Actually, according to the professionals over at lensoftruth, the 360 version is the worst.

Master_ShakeXXX

Lens Of Truth is crap.

Digital Foundry is the only site worth mentioning.

Digital Foundry is a joke. Lens Of Truth is made up of highly experienced and respected pros from the video game business.

wow...you keep telling yourself that.

Anyhow, I loved the first one. The second is better in everyway. Hooked!

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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Vaasman"]

http://www.gamespot.com/diablo-iii/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/borderlands-2/platform/pc/8.5

http://www.gamespot.com/guild-wars-2/platform/pc/9.0

Your tears are delicious to me.

Rocker6

Pah-leez. Everybody knows that the GS review is a hoax. The reviewer outright admits that Borderlands 2 is vastly superior to the original in every way yet awards it the same score. Lies.

As the quality of gaming experiences naturally improves over time, we do not simply rate new games higher, even if they're technically better. Instead, we adjust our expectations and continually recalibrate our numeric rating scale accordingly. What this means in practice is that a high score awarded today by GameSpot is worth more than if we awarded the same score yesterday. In other words, a game that earns a high score today is probably superior in overall quality to a game that earned the same score on our scale several years ago. Gamespot

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The only "hoax" here is you... ;)

I don't care how they try to justify their scores. When a sequel is vastly superior to the original, and the critic acknowledges this, it should warrant a higher score. This is common sense. We're not talking subtle improvements here. The game is just outright better, by quite a margin.

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9.0>8.5
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#26 clone01
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How many GOTY's can one person have ? :roll:

Chuubby
Its a Master_Shakexxx thread. He fellates a game and acts like an idiot for a month, then does it for another title. And so on, and so forth.
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

Pah-leez. Everybody knows that the GS review is a hoax. The reviewer outright admits that Borderlands 2 is vastly superior to the original in every way yet awards it the same score. Lies.

Master_ShakeXXX

As the quality of gaming experiences naturally improves over time, we do not simply rate new games higher, even if they're technically better. Instead, we adjust our expectations and continually recalibrate our numeric rating scale accordingly. What this means in practice is that a high score awarded today by GameSpot is worth more than if we awarded the same score yesterday. In other words, a game that earns a high score today is probably superior in overall quality to a game that earned the same score on our scale several years ago. Gamespot

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The only "hoax" here is you... ;)

I don't care how they try to justify their scores. When a sequel is vastly superior to the original, and the critic acknowledges this, it should warrant a higher score. This is common sense. We're not talking subtle improvements here. The game is just outright better, by quite a margin.

Standards change over time, and my source page has been around for much longer than Borderlands 2 review, so there is no justifying being done...

I like their reviewing system, and also, if you enjoy the game, why do you keep focusing on a few digits somewhere on the Internet, in what way do they affect your gaming experience, even if you don't like them?

And what's the problem with 8.5 score? Doesn't it clearly says "great"?

Here:

8.0-8.5: Great

This range refers to great games that are excellent in almost every way and whose few setbacks probably aren't too important. We highly recommend games in the upper half of this range, since they tend to be good enough to provide an enjoyable experience to fans of the particular genre and to new players alike.Gamespot

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#28 Master_ShakeXXX
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9.0>8.5Nanomage

And 9.5 > 9.0, but that didn't stop Skyrim from winning GOTY now did it?

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I don't care how they try to justify their scores. When a sequel is vastly superior to the original, and the critic acknowledges this, it should warrant a higher score. This is common sense. We're not talking subtle improvements here. The game is just outright better, by quite a margin.

Master_ShakeXXX

I'm sorry, but that's complete bullsh*t. Standards increase over time. All games would get a 10 if not the case.

And the wow factor of something new is gone with the "more of the same plus" sequel.

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#30 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="Nanomage"]9.0>8.5Master_ShakeXXX

And 9.5 > 9.0, but that didn't stop Skyrim from winning GOTY now did it?

But those are two AAA games. We're talking about an AAA and an AA. Sorry, Borderlands 2 will most likely be honorable mention. Maybe shooter of the year or something.

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#31 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I don't care how they try to justify their scores. When a sequel is vastly superior to the original, and the critic acknowledges this, it should warrant a higher score. This is common sense. We're not talking subtle improvements here. The game is just outright better, by quite a margin.

organic_machine

I'm sorry, but that's complete bullsh*t. Standards increase over time. All games would get a 10 if not the case.

And the wow factor of something new is gone with the "more of the same plus" sequel.

No, the "standards increase over time" excuse is complete bullsh*t. If that were actually true, Call of Duty wouldn't be scoring so consistently.

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[QUOTE="Nanomage"]9.0>8.5Master_ShakeXXX

And 9.5 > 9.0, but that didn't stop Skyrim from winning GOTY now did it?

Sorry, Borderlands 2 is by no means a GOTY material. It's a great and a fun game, no doubt, but that's it...

It simply doesn't have the level of ambition needed for GOTY...

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13 vs 30 review sources. Expect Borderlands 2 to drop slightly and likely match GW2 or drop to the high 80's.

The 360 actually dropped below GW2 based on 29 review sources.

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#34 organic_machine
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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I don't care how they try to justify their scores. When a sequel is vastly superior to the original, and the critic acknowledges this, it should warrant a higher score. This is common sense. We're not talking subtle improvements here. The game is just outright better, by quite a margin.

Master_ShakeXXX

I'm sorry, but that's complete bullsh*t. Standards increase over time. All games would get a 10 if not the case.

And the wow factor of something new is gone with the "more of the same plus" sequel.

No, the "standards increase over time" excuse is complete bullsh*t. If that were actually true, Call of Duty wouldn't be scoring so consistently.

MW3 scored AA.

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[QUOTE="organic_machine"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

I don't care how they try to justify their scores. When a sequel is vastly superior to the original, and the critic acknowledges this, it should warrant a higher score. This is common sense. We're not talking subtle improvements here. The game is just outright better, by quite a margin.

Master_ShakeXXX

I'm sorry, but that's complete bullsh*t. Standards increase over time. All games would get a 10 if not the case.

And the wow factor of something new is gone with the "more of the same plus" sequel.

No, the "standards increase over time" excuse is complete bullsh*t. If that were actually true, Call of Duty wouldn't be scoring so consistently.

MW2 and Black Ops scored 9.0, yet MW3 scored 8.5. Gamespot remains consistent to their reviewing system...

Also, hate it as much as you want, but at its core, CoD still remains a great shooter loved by many gamers, even by the so called "haters" who wish to sound "cool" on the Internet...

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#36 Master_ShakeXXX
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="Nanomage"]9.0>8.5Rocker6

And 9.5 > 9.0, but that didn't stop Skyrim from winning GOTY now did it?

Sorry, Borderlands 2 is by no means a GOTY material. It's a great and a fun game, no doubt, but that's it...

It simply doesn't have the level of ambition needed for GOTY...

How could it not? The comedic writing is brilliant, easily on the same level as Portal. The gameplay is very solid. The badass ranking system is inspired brilliance and totally revolutionary. The artstyle is beautiful. I think it's got GOTY written all over it.

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Trying to compare Apples and Oranges.
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[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]only the ps3 version which we all know is the worst :lol:KingsMessenger

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-borderlands-2-screenshot-comparison/

Actually, according to the professionals over at lensoftruth, the 360 version is the worst.

Lens Of Truth is crap.

Digital Foundry is the only site worth mentioning if you even want to try to discuss technical comparisons between platforms.

People still use lens of truth :O???

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[QUOTE="KingsMessenger"]

[QUOTE="Master_ShakeXXX"]

http://www.lensoftruth.com/head2head-borderlands-2-screenshot-comparison/

Actually, according to the professionals over at lensoftruth, the 360 version is the worst.

jimmyrussle117

Lens Of Truth is crap.

Digital Foundry is the only site worth mentioning if you even want to try to discuss technical comparisons between platforms.

People still use lens of truth :O???

People still care about the minimal differences between 360 and PS3?

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Trying to compare Apples and Oranges. clyde46

More like glistening, ripe, red apples to moldy and rotten oranges.

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#41 deactivated-5acbb9993d0bd
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Oh noes, it was all an elaborate ruse.
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#42 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="clyde46"]Trying to compare Apples and Oranges. Master_ShakeXXX

More like glistening, ripe, red apples to moldy and rotten oranges.

Ok seriously that's just terrible.

Borderlands 2 is not moldy.

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#43 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Seems like mastershake got his kimmies rustled in that other thread :lol:

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#44 Rocker6
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Seems like mastershake got his kimmies rustled in that other thread :lol:

seanmcloughlin

*jimmies :P

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Seems like mastershake got his kimmies rustled in that other thread :lol:

Rocker6

*jimmies :P

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Hadn't seen that one :lol:

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#46 Cranler
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What a stupid thread. PC has higher standards. Borderlands 2 pc metacritic is 89 even though its the best version by far. GW 2 is 90.

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#47 AjaxNeron
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Borderlands 2 will not win Game of the Year, nor will Guild Wars 2. Both are very great games and will definitely be nominated, though.

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#48 Krelian-co
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been playing a bit of borderlands 2, great game, but better than gw2? not by a longshot

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#49 Krelian-co
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Borderlands 2 will not win Game of the Year, nor will Guild Wars 2. Both are very great games and will definitely be nominated, though.

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can you see on your magic crystal ball which game does win according to you?

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#50 Master_ShakeXXX
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So many delicious tears in this thread. I wish I had a big enough glass to catch all of them in.