Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night is overrated and overpriced

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#1 Edited by uninspiredcup (33696 posts) -

The game is now released, what's your take on it compared to other metroidvanias on the market? Stuff like Hollow Knight which is half the price? Or Dead Cells? Etc...

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#2 Posted by Ten_Pints (3831 posts) -

Shitstained?

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#3 Posted by Star67 (4429 posts) -

I haven't played the game but from everything I have seen the game looks slow, clunky, and boring. Plus the art style is pitiful! Even after the redesign they did after fan feedback.

Why was this not made with 2D style graphics in the realm of Super Nintendo/Genesis?

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#4 Edited by Renegade_Fury (20578 posts) -

Don't know where you're getting that from because from all of the impressions that I've been reading, everyone has been really liking it. Jim Sterling even said he'd give it a 10/10 if he still did scores.

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I have yet to play my copy, but I'm also excited for it after loving both previous demos.

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#5 Posted by Subspecies (568 posts) -

Oh, what's this? A game that actually lived up to what was promised, and is actually really good? Quick! Make a thread about how overrated it is!

So freaking predictable.

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#6 Posted by Pedro (34954 posts) -

Overrated? How?

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#7 Edited by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

@Pedro said:

Overrated? How?

Overrated simply means "things people like and I don't".

In other words: I don't like it so it sucks.

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#8 Posted by uninspiredcup (33696 posts) -

@ten_pints said:

Shitstained?

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#9 Posted by R4gn4r0k (31215 posts) -

@calvincfb said:
@Pedro said:

Overrated? How?

Overrated simply means "things people like and I don't".

In other words: I don't like it so it sucks.

Or rather: too many people like a certain thing and there is no reason why.

For example: superhero movies are overrated

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#10 Posted by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:
@calvincfb said:
@Pedro said:

Overrated? How?

Overrated simply means "things people like and I don't".

In other words: I don't like it so it sucks.

Or rather: too many people like a certain thing and there is no reason why.

For example: superhero movies are overrated

Just because people like it, there's no reason to? Nah, it's still "things people like and I don't" and "I don't like it so it sucks".

There's no such thing as overrated.

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#11 Posted by DaVillain- (36936 posts) -

Never bother to look into this game.

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#12 Edited by uninspiredcup (33696 posts) -

@Star67 said:

I haven't played the game but from everything I have seen the game looks slow, clunky, and boring. Plus the art style is pitiful! Even after the redesign they did after fan feedback.

Why was this not made with 2D style graphics in the realm of Super Nintendo/Genesis?

It's really not that good. It is indeed as you describe, extremely slow with very unsatisfying combat and a lacklustre art direction. The only thing standing out is the music, which is fantastic.

Objectively analysing the game, not on the creators reputation but rather, comparing it to currently Metroidvania games on the market, at a significantly cheaper price, it is, indeed, quantifiably overrated.

Compare this to Hollow Knight or even something like Momodora: Reverie Under the Moonlight (made by one person), really, underwhelming stuff for a 6 million+ game.

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#13 Posted by R4gn4r0k (31215 posts) -

@calvincfb said:

Just because people like it, there's no reason to? Nah, it's still "things people like and I don't" and "I don't like it so it sucks".

There's no such thing as overrated.

I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

You are explaining self-absorption to me. I'm trying to explain overrated to you.

I never even said I don't like superhero movies. I simply state: Superhero movies are overrated.

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#14 Posted by enzyme36 (4227 posts) -

Iggy's biggest castle..... f yeah im getting this!!

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#15 Posted by Archangel3371 (28156 posts) -

Haven’t played it myself yet but I plan on getting it relatively soon. It looks pretty good from what I’ve seen of it and watched some impressions on it by Jim Sterling and DreamCastGuy and they both spoke highly of it. DreamCastGuy gave it an 8.5.

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#16 Posted by SOedipus (11513 posts) -

I was kind of looking forward to this game. Didn't really follow it but it looked interesting. I might wait to hear more impressions before picking up.

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#17 Posted by m_machine024 (15865 posts) -

Yeah...... sure. I'll get it soon on Switch.

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#18 Posted by Yams1980 (3513 posts) -

looks exactly like a castlevania game. Even the look of the map looks the same. Probably a great game for people who like castlevania. I'm kinda a slight fan, i liked the older nes versions but not so much the newer ones.

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#19 Posted by ocinom (1008 posts) -

Its way better than those sprite based metroidvania wannabe games. If you’re a fan of Iga games then you won’t be disappointed with this one

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#20 Posted by PC_Rocks (2500 posts) -

I'll take your word for it. It didn't interest me in the first place.

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#21 Posted by Ovirew (9083 posts) -

So many people on this website just shit all over everything anymore. Like it's hard to tell if ppl are serious or trolling.

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#22 Posted by Litchie (24037 posts) -

Yeah, it doesn't look very good. Boring graphics. Slow gameplay. Boring level design. Boring enemies. Whole game just looks like a boring Castlevania ripoff. Kinda like how Might No. 9 was a crappy Megaman.

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#23 Edited by ellos (2043 posts) -

I think its the case of the indy scene has elevated the genre, the OG folks cant keep up. Was interested but worried about the game. I ll give it a shot at some point.

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#24 Posted by PC_Rocks (2500 posts) -

@ellos said:

I think its the case of the indy scene has elevated the genre, the OG folks cant keep up. Was interested but worried about the game. I ll give it a shot at some point.

Isn't that the truth!

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#25 Edited by KungfuKitten (26649 posts) -

I will play it momentarily ^__^ I think it looks like they have improved a lot. So I am pretty excited to play it.

Oh I guess I won't play it today because I probably picked the Switch version XD

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#26 Posted by nintendoboy16 (36344 posts) -

Game Sack has been reporting some game breaking bugs.

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#28 Edited by mojito1988 (3643 posts) -

I will never understand why people that do not even play a game that is VERY highly reviewed (just look at steam reviews) can claim that it is overrated.

Imagine playing something before you make that type of a claim. I know it is unimaginable.

94% positive USER (not critic) reviews with over 1400 of them is the new overrated. SW does not even try anymore.

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#29 Posted by xantufrog (11519 posts) -

I'm not sure why people are saying it looks slow - the pacing looks almost identical to the oldschool castlevania games. I've been replaying Bloodlines lately and this is pretty much on point.

Really would prefer sprites though...

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#30 Posted by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k said:
@calvincfb said:

Just because people like it, there's no reason to? Nah, it's still "things people like and I don't" and "I don't like it so it sucks".

There's no such thing as overrated.

I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

You are explaining self-absorption to me. I'm trying to explain overrated to you.

I never even said I don't like superhero movies. I simply state: Superhero movies are overrated.

I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

You are explaining self-absorption to me. I'm trying to explain overrated to you.

I simply state: Overrated stuff doesn't exist.

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#31 Posted by m_machine024 (15865 posts) -

I really enjoyed the Castlevania games trilogy on the DS. Gameplay looks the exact same.

I suppose people not interested in this aren't fans of Castlevania.

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#32 Posted by Litchie (24037 posts) -
@m_machine024 said:

I really enjoyed the Castlevania games trilogy on the DS. Gameplay looks the exact same.

I suppose people not interested in this aren't fans of Castlevania.

I'm a huge fan of Castlevania. Doesn't mean I want to play an average ripoff of it.

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#33 Edited by R4gn4r0k (31215 posts) -

@calvincfb said:

I don't get why this is so hard to understand.

You are explaining self-absorption to me. I'm trying to explain overrated to you.

I simply state: Overrated stuff doesn't exist.

Are you just trying to be annoying at this point? Do you really have no arguments left that you have to resort to 12 year old behaviour of repeating what the other person said?

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#34 Posted by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

@R4gn4r0k: my first argument was clear enough and I saw no point to discuss it further. I'm right and there's nothing you can do about it.

Deal with it

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#35 Posted by Calvincfb (0 posts) -

@Litchie: how is it a rip-off if its maker is the same guy that made SOTN and its sequels?

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#36 Posted by Star67 (4429 posts) -

@xantufrog said:

I'm not sure why people are saying it looks slow - the pacing looks almost identical to the oldschool castlevania games. I've been replaying Bloodlines lately and this is pretty much on point.

Really would prefer sprites though...

I might give it a try then during a sale.......

But yes....it needed to be sprites, feel the 3D art style choice was a financial choice.

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#37 Edited by Renegade_Fury (20578 posts) -

@Star67 said:
@xantufrog said:

I'm not sure why people are saying it looks slow - the pacing looks almost identical to the oldschool castlevania games. I've been replaying Bloodlines lately and this is pretty much on point.

Really would prefer sprites though...

I might give it a try then during a sale.......

But yes....it needed to be sprites, feel the 3D art style choice was a financial choice.

It was a financial decision, which they were very upfront with at the start, so you can't really fault them. The gameplay though is exactly the same speed as SOTN and the DS Castlevanias. People calling it slow are just falling for an illusion due to the 2.5D graphics. In game, there are also items that increase Miriam's speed as well.

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#38 Posted by lamprey263 (36143 posts) -

Might be worth mentioning in OP they want $40 for this. Damn, really was quite over-priced, wasn't planning on getting it but might try if ends up on Game Pass.

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#39 Posted by Star67 (4429 posts) -

@Renegade_Fury: If 2.5D gives off a slow illusion shouldn't they compensate with more movement speed?

IDK I think Dead Cells has spoiled me for Metroidvanias

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#40 Posted by getyeryayasout (12343 posts) -

I'll scoop it up for PS4 since I like the dualshock's d-pad best. Probably double dip for Switch once it's discounted.

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#41 Edited by Renegade_Fury (20578 posts) -

@Star67: Not when it feels like any other Castlevania when you're actually playing, and like I wrote, there is equipment that can improve your abilities, such as the back dash, etc. This is literally another SOTN or OoE in every way but name.

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#42 Posted by m_machine024 (15865 posts) -

@Litchie said:
@m_machine024 said:

I really enjoyed the Castlevania games trilogy on the DS. Gameplay looks the exact same.

I suppose people not interested in this aren't fans of Castlevania.

I'm a huge fan of Castlevania. Doesn't mean I want to play an average ripoff of it.

From what I see, it's only missing "Castlevania" in the title.

I understand if you don't feel the visuals tho.

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#43 Posted by Star67 (4429 posts) -

@Renegade_Fury: Fair enough, I love SOTN and if what you say is true I'm willing to give it a try....

But not at $40, that's too expensive for a game I'm on the fence about lol

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#44 Posted by Renegade_Fury (20578 posts) -

@Star67: That's fair, and I'm not even really trying to sell Bloodstained, but rather just want to convey that it's a good game. As a backer, I'm happy not only to get this as the base game, but Curse of the Moon from last year as well.

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#45 Edited by evilross (1983 posts) -

This game is ridiculously good. It’s leaps and bounds better then any of the “metroidvania” clones that have been pumped out by the indie crowd the last few years.

As a matter of fact, I would rank it #3 if all time behind SotN and SuperMetroid. But in a gameplay basis it’s actually better then both. It literally has everything. Being the first always makes you the best IMO, but this game has everything going for it.

If your a fan of this type gameplay at all, you need to play it.

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#46 Edited by MirkoS77 (14242 posts) -

Ugh.

I keep watching videos of this and it just looks so.......bleh. Generic, stagnant, mechanical and stale are words that pop to mind. SoTN had a fluidity about it, an organic sense and feeling of consequence and weight, for lack of better words. This was aided by its phenomenal sprite work and animation. Everything here just looks so damn.....synthetic and gives off a feeling of levity. Soulless and boring. Just looking at it makes me not only not interested, but adverse to giving it a chance at all. The animation also looks very amateurish.

Not for me.

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#47 Posted by BossFightHub (22 posts) -
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#48 Edited by evilross (1983 posts) -

@MirkoS77:

You obviously haven’t played it.

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#49 Posted by MirkoS77 (14242 posts) -

@evilross: obviously.

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#50 Posted by KBFloYd (21859 posts) -

if it had castlevania in the title i would have bought it.

no castlevania title no buy.

yes i am that petty.