If this is true, then I won't buy the game anymore. At least we'll have some alternatives like Torchlight II and Grim Dawn.
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If this is true, then I won't buy the game anymore. At least we'll have some alternatives like Torchlight II and Grim Dawn.
RyuRanVII
Grim Dawn looks good, im sure the devs are both happy about how stupid Blizzard are
If this is true, then I won't buy the game anymore. At least we'll have some alternatives like Torchlight II and Grim Dawn.
RyuRanVII
They'll end up being big and then screw us over when they become a big company just like all the others :|
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If this is true, then I won't buy the game anymore. At least we'll have some alternatives like Torchlight II and Grim Dawn.
NoodleFighter
They'll end up being big and then screw us over when they become a big company just like all the others :|
yeah just like Notch, oh wait, no Notch hasnt sold out just yet, i dont care about the minecraft kinect thing, the next Minecraft update looks awesome
[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Consolized confirm yo.AncientDozerHow is always online and paying for the auction house consolization? If anything, Blizzard's been doing that for a while. It just means that playing on the console isn't a bad decision.
Not consolized, but still a stupid decision. I'm still probably getting this because I'll only be playing online anyways, but ya, effectively Blizzard just took out single player from this game. Very, very bad move IMO. Also, this really isn't going to do much for the hacking. The only reason D2 was hacked so much was because a lot of stuff was stored client-side due to the bandwidth considerations of the time. Now that that's not really a problem, the hacking problem should almost fix itself. This DRM isn't going to help at all. Besides, who really cares if people have some fun with their single player?
Edit: also just realized whoever made this press statement had no idea how the system in Diablo 2 worked. Single player characters can only connect through LAN or Open B.Net, which has no security at all. Closed B.Net characters are what are mainly used for multiplayer and stored on Blizzard's servers. The hacking had nothing to do with people editting their save files. Real good job there Blizzard.
Its because of the real currency auction house. Players can spend and earn real money. And they do not want people to cheat it. Led_poisonIndeed, and I dont see a problem with this, if anything it makes ingame Auction Houses a more tangible thing to waste your life on. instead of the current system of nothing but self-nerdy ego.
Its because of the real currency auction house. Players can spend and earn real money. And they do not want people to cheat it. Led_poison
Can someone link this to me? Wtf.
interesting *drops diablo 3 from to buy list*delta3074Why would you do that? Don't you have a constant internet connection anyways? It's not like this authentication DRM stuff is going to kill your performance or anything. Unless you have a terrible ISP provider? :)firstly, it's draconian and buying this is giving them a thumbs up i am not selfish and i am not just thinknig of myself i am thinking about all the people out there who really want to play this game but don't have an internet connection (it's more than you think) not everyone can afford 15 quid a month for the internet at the moment, secondly, i share a single connection with my wife and she uses it 85% of the time and we cannot afford a router at the moment and we will probably have to drop the internet as well at some point in the future, i work damn hard to support my wife and kids and unfortunately for blizzard i can think of plenty of other games to buy instead that don't require a constant internet connection. If you can't afford a router or internet then perhaps you should consider the costs of gaming and set your priorities straight. I hope you're not paying to game and forgetting that food also costs money, as children and wives and yourself all require food last time I checked.
[QUOTE="JohnDead80"]Blizzard games on PC make consoles look like happy meal toys. HaloinventedFPS
consoles can have the damn game
i dont think any real Dialblo fans care anymore
You're a real Diablo fan? Someone that just said the multiplayer is crap? All right buddy.[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="HaloinventedFPS"]You're a real Diablo fan? Someone that just said the multiplayer is crap? All right buddy. While I don't agree with his idea of "real fan", I can't say I agree with your apparent implication that a fan has to like the multiplayer. I'm saying that if you're a fan of the series that actually played all the features of the games then you wouldn't scoff at Diablo's multiplayer component and pretend to speak for all the "real" Diablo fans by saying we're no longer interested in the game.consoles can have the damn game
i dont think any real Dialblo fans care anymore
AncientDozer
If you can't afford a router or internet then perhaps you should consider the costs of gaming and set your priorities straight. I hope you're not paying to game and forgetting that food also costs money, as children and wives and yourself all require food last time I checked.Frostbite24
What about people who live in different parts of the world where Internet is more expensive? Or if the Internet connection is spotty? What about college students and such?
[QUOTE="Frostbite24"] If you can't afford a router or internet then perhaps you should consider the costs of gaming and set your priorities straight. I hope you're not paying to game and forgetting that food also costs money, as children and wives and yourself all require food last time I checked.rpgs_shall_rule
What about people who live in different parts of the world where Internet is more expensive? Or if the Internet connection is spotty? What about college students and such?
I was not speaking about the general world population, I was speaking directly to the user who was saying they were having trouble getting by financially but implied that he was still paying for gaming.[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Its because of the real currency auction house. Players can spend and earn real money. And they do not want people to cheat it. rpgs_shall_rule
Can someone link this to me? Wtf.
Here you go
Never been that huge a fan of Diablo, but still, I didn't even touch the online for the first two games. Really pushes Diablo 3 to the back of my "Must-buy" list.
Its because of the real currency auction house. Players can spend and earn real money. And they do not want people to cheat it. Led_poison
Actually, it's Blizzard earning real money. An AH purchase will effectively work similarly to purchasing MS points for someone else.
About the constant internet connection.... It's not a big deal for me as my internet is quite stable. That being said, This DRM solution did prove to be an issue a couple of times when playing AC2, so out of experience, I consider it negative.
Also, this will render me unable to play it on my laptop while on the go, I refuse to pay for slowass, limited capacity mobile internet.
At least, I'll still be able to during class, should I feel so inclined ;)
[QUOTE="omenodebander"]Meanwhile reality strikes and Diablo III will still likely be a much higher quality game, that plays like it would with or without the cash trading.torchlight 2, here I come
Birdy09
Matters little. The loot heavy games are not my fav genre or even close to it. I play them for an hour or two and then quit for weeks, even months. D3 can have all the cinematics and jazzz for all I care, but in the end, I will pick the game that won't require a persistent "ONLINE" connection.
So, yeah, D3's got the high budget and all, but try not to act like I give a flying crap about yet another clickfest. I only want one, Torchlight 2 (and grim dawn is looking like a possible candidate too)
Chiill man, this is Just for the lulz :P
[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Its because of the real currency auction house. Players can spend and earn real money. And they do not want people to cheat it. Filthybastrd
Actually, it's Blizzard earning real money. An AH purchase will effectively work similarly to purchasing MS points for someone else.
About the constant internet connection.... It's not a big deal for me as my internet is quite stable. That being said, This DRM solution did prove to be an issue a couple of times when playing AC2, so out of experience, I consider it negative.
Yes but theres always the option of cashing out
How do I cash out from the currency-based auction house?
As an advanced feature, players will have the option of attaching an account with an approved third-party payment service to their Battle.net account. Once this has been completed, proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house can be deposited into their third-party payment service account. "Cashing out" would then be handled through the third-party payment service. Note that this process will be subject to applicable fees charged by Blizzard and the third-party payment service. Also, any proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house that have been deposited into the Battle.net account will not be transferrable to the third-party payment service account. Not all regions will support this advanced feature at launch. Region-specific details, as well as details regarding which third-party payment services will be supported and the fee that Blizzard will charge for the cash-out process, will all be provided at a later date.Blizzard
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[QUOTE="Led_poison"]Its because of the real currency auction house. Players can spend and earn real money. And they do not want people to cheat it. Led_poison
Can someone link this to me? Wtf.
Here you go
Pay to win, here we go!
Yes but theres always the option of cashing out
[QUOTE="Blizzard"]
How do I cash out from the currency-based auction house?
As an advanced feature, players will have the option of attaching an account with an approved third-party payment service to their Battle.net account. Once this has been completed, proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house can be deposited into their third-party payment service account. "Cashing out" would then be handled through the third-party payment service. Note that this process will be subject to applicable fees charged by Blizzard and the third-party payment service. Also, any proceeds from the sale of items in the currency-based auction house that have been deposited into the Battle.net account will not be transferrable to the third-party payment service account. Not all regions will support this advanced feature at launch. Region-specific details, as well as details regarding which third-party payment services will be supported and the fee that Blizzard will charge for the cash-out process, will all be provided at a later date.Led_poison
Ah, did'nt catch that bit.
I'm still firmly against pay to win features in in non f2p games. Especially in this case, where you actually lose money if you don't make a sale.
[QUOTE="Led_poison"]
[QUOTE="rpgs_shall_rule"]
Can someone link this to me? Wtf.
rpgs_shall_rule
Here you go
Pay to win, here we go!
:| No that feature does only one thing. Gives convience to the purchaser.. Outside of that they can still trade and get the same items as some one else.. The only thing this does is just post it up for automation.. Though I would have liked to be a purchasable one time dlc more than anything else... Even then I wouldn't get it.. Simply because I don't think its necessary from regular old trading in the game.. Especially now that there is a real currency.
[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Consolized confirm yo.AncientDozerHow is always online and paying for the auction house consolization? If anything, Blizzard's been doing that for a while. It just means that playing on the console isn't a bad decision. I thought this was just the routine bash consoles because something bad happened to PC games.
[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="delta3074"]firstly, it's draconian and buying this is giving them a thumbs up i am not selfish and i am not just thinknig of myself i am thinking about all the people out there who really want to play this game but don't have an internet connection (it's more than you think) not everyone can afford 15 quid a month for the internet at the moment, secondly, i share a single connection with my wife and she uses it 85% of the time and we cannot afford a router at the moment and we will probably have to drop the internet as well at some point in the future, i work damn hard to support my wife and kids and unfortunately for blizzard i can think of plenty of other games to buy instead that don't require a constant internet connection.delta3074If you can't afford a router or internet then perhaps you should consider the costs of gaming and set your priorities straight. I hope you're not paying to game and forgetting that food also costs money, as children and wives and yourself all require food last time I checked.i very strongly suggest that you go back and read my last post, and don't ever question my ability as a father or a husband,food for my wife and kids comes before anything else, i have spent the grand total of about 20 quid on gaming in the last 3 months Done, I reread it and it still concerns me, i'm sure it's just the words you chose but I'm just looking out for a fellow gamer. Glad to hear you have it all under control.
Ah, did'nt catch that bit.
I'm still firmly against pay to win features in in non f2p games. Especially in this case, where you actually lose money if you don't make a sale.
Filthybastrd
meh, the only thing this could affect is PvP which we havent heard from. InDiablo 2 the market was controlled by untrustworthy sites. Blizzard has just taken control of the market and made it official, destroying those sites and providing a legitimate avenue for real money transactions.
I don't like this. What happens if my internet should not work? Oh too bad, you cannot even play the SP game. -.-danish-death
If its anything like SC2, you will be able to authenticate a PC, alllowing you to play offline.
[QUOTE="Frostbite24"][QUOTE="delta3074"]i very strongly suggest that you go back and read my last post, and don't ever question my ability as a father or a husband,food for my wife and kids comes before anything else, i have spent the grand total of about 20 quid on gaming in the last 3 monthsdelta3074Done, I reread it and it still concerns me, i'm sure it's just the words you chose but I'm just looking out for a fellow gamer. Glad to hear you have it all under control.not that post, the post i wrote replying to william after that, you know, the one where i explain that i have had to go back to playing oblivion an gta 4,lol I apologize, I didn't read through this entire thread and didn't see your previous post. Just saw the comment from you that I replied to.
[QUOTE="Filthybastrd"]
Ah, did'nt catch that bit.
I'm still firmly against pay to win features in in non f2p games. Especially in this case, where you actually lose money if you don't make a sale.
Led_poison
meh, the only thing this could affect is PvP which we havent heard from. InDiablo 2 the market was controlled by untrustworthy sites. Blizzard has just taken control of the market and made it official, destroying those sites and providing a legitimate avenue for real money transactions.
Coop has a competetive side as well to be honest.
I dislike schemes like these out of principle, because people become motivated to unintentionally spend large sums of money due to lacking transparency.
It's schemes like these that makes kids burn 1000$ from their mothers' creditcards on Farmville ;)
It will have no effect on me whatsoever, but Blizzard is certainly taking advantage of people's impulsiveness and that leaves a slightly sour taste in my mouth.
Coop has a competetive side as well to be honest.
I dislike schemes like these out of principle, because people become motivated to unintentionally spend large sums of money due to lacking transparency.
It's schemes like these that makes kids burn 1000$ from their mothers' creditcards on Farmville ;)
It will have no effect on me whatsoever, but Blizzard is certainly taking advantage of people's impulsiveness and that leaves a slightly sour taste in my mouth.
Filthybastrd
Again meh. Theres always the gold auction house if you really NEED that one item.
As for kids burning $1000 of dollars, this happens everywhere even on XBL. Blizzard actually has a pretty good system in place in WoW, in which you can always cancel transaction from your CC and Blizzard then takes away the item you bought since the transaction failed.
If there is any legitimate reaon to hate on PC gaming it's this.
This new 'game must be online' trend alot of new PC games are having is almost as bad as MS requireing payment to play games online, except it's not for every game--yet.
When I buy a game I feel like I to know I haveto access to all the parts of the game*without any hindges or limits attached*, otherwise why does it still cost full price to have game?
i can still play my games offline without having to pay for gold on the xbox 360, so it's a lot worse than having to pay MS to play your games online, just had to sneak a dig at MS didn't you? but i agree with your second part, i want to be able to play a games campaign without requiring an internet connection to do so, i play offline anyway, cancelled my gold the other day because i just didn't bother using it, gaming online is not my cup of tea at all, guess i am just too old schooll but then i have been gaming for 26 years this year,it's also why i am sticking to games that focus on offline play like skyrim and deus ex, maybe witcher 2 if i can afford it next year, i may play games like COD and gears but not until they are much cheaper than the 40 quid you pay brand new.If there is any legitimate reaon to hate on PC gaming it's this.
This new 'game must be online' trend alot of new PC games are having is almost as bad as MS requireing payment to play games online, except it's not for every game--yet.
When I buy a game I feel like I to know I haveto access to all the parts of the game*without any hindges or limits attached*, otherwise why does it still cost full price to have game?
casharmy
How likely are you to be on your PC when it has no internet access....?If there is any legitimate reaon to hate on PC gaming it's this.
This new 'game must be online' trend alot of new PC games are having is almost as bad as MS requireing payment to play games online, except it's not for every game--yet.
When I buy a game I feel like I to know I haveto access to all the parts of the game*without any hindges or limits attached*, otherwise why does it still cost full price to have game?
casharmy
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