BioWare: "calling the next game Mass Effect 4 is a disservice"

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#1 Posted by SecretPolice (32936 posts) -

I'm gonna borrow a little from the comment section and say, ME2&3 were a disservice to ME1. :P

Go bacjk to your roots Bio and all will be just peachy - with that said, I do look forward to a next gen Mass Effect. :D

Discuss if you wish.

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http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-02-07-bioware-calling-the-next-game-mass-effect-4-is-a-disservice

BioWare: "calling the next game Mass Effect 4 is a disservice"

"The game does not have to come after. Or before."

BioWare does not want you to refer to the next Mass Effect game as Mass Effect 4. Doing so would imply it was a sequel to Commander Shepard's story.

But that doesn't mean it will be a prequel, either.

"To call the next game Mass Effect 4 or ME4 is doing it a disservice and seems to cause a lot of confusion here," BioWare community manager Chris Priestly wrote on the company's forums.

"We have already said that the Commander Shepard trilogy is over and that the next game will not feature him/her. That is the only detail you have on the game. I see people saying 'well, they'll have to pick a canon ending'. No, because the game does not have to come after. Or before. Or off to the side. Or with characters you know. Or yaddayaddayadda."

The next Mass Effect game is in development at BioWare Edmonton, which worked on Mass Effect 2 and 3 side-quests and the latter's excellent multiplayer.

BioWare Edmonton boss Yanick Roy has since clarified Priestly's comments and dropped several hints that, despite not being a sequel, events in the next game would take place after those in Mass Effect 3.

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My god, it's full of stars.

"Thinking of the next Mass Effect game as Mass Effect 4 would imply a certain linearity, a straight evolution of the gameplay and story of the first three games," he wrote. "That doesn't mean that events of the first three games and the choices you made won't get recognised, but they likely won't be what this new story will focus on.

"If you had three games centred around a group of key soldiers in the US army during World War I and then decided to make a game about another group of people during the Second World War, the games could have many points in common and feel true to one another," he continued.

"You likely would have to recognise how the events of the first war influenced the ones of the second, but you would not necessarily think of it as a sequel. Again, the analogy is not great, but what I'm trying to say is that the ME universe is so rich that we are not limited to a single track when coming up with a new story."

Questioned as to whether the next Mass Effect game would still feature the same galaxy, the same alien races, and honour the series' existing lore and history, Roy suggested it would.

"What makes it Mass Effect is indeed the alien races, the technology, the lore, history, etc. You can safely expect those in the next Mass Effect."

Firm information on the project, first announced by BioWare last September, won't be disclosed "for several more months".

"We don't have a firm communication timeline established at this point, but I don't expect it will be for several more months," Roy concluded. "Early in development, things fluctuate so much that any detail we communicate could have to be 'uncommunicated' a few months later. I think we'd rather have something solid to show by the time we step in the spotlight."

BioWare still has a significant (and likely final) Mass Effect 3 single-player DLC in the pipeline, along with another multiplayer update.

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#2 Posted by Primordialous (1313 posts) -

I'm interested to see what the plot is going to be about.

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#3 Posted by AmnesiaHaze (5685 posts) -

if they wanted to make a ME4 they should have chosen a less apocalyptic ending in ME3

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#4 Posted by SecretPolice (32936 posts) -

if they wanted to make a ME4 they should have chosen a less apocalyptic ending in ME3

AmnesiaHaze

Halo was their inspiration so perhaps an umm, ODST of sorts. :o

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#5 Posted by EPaul (9917 posts) -

So basically it's new game/storyline in the Mass Effect universe

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#6 Posted by jessejay420 (4091 posts) -
Microtransaction Effect
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#7 Posted by padaporra (3508 posts) -

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to. 

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#8 Posted by Salt_The_Fries (12480 posts) -
Them still existing is a disservice to the videogaming world.
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#9 Posted by tenaka2 (17054 posts) -

Agreed, they should have called it 'Turd person shooter 4'

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#10 Posted by SecretPolice (32936 posts) -

Agreed, they should have called it 'Turd person shooter 4'

tenaka2

Sounds like that could be a fun, wacky kinda shooter but eh, in the end, it would likely turn out to be a real stinker. :twisted:

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#11 Posted by sts106mat (24249 posts) -
i'll be happy with more exploring and the underworld / crime side of the universe, a bit like star wars bounty hunter was. i dont want it to be another saving the galaxy thing.
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#12 Posted by skrat_01 (33767 posts) -
I'd like to see them expand on the big picture science fiction stuff; the concepts and all that jazz, and actually lowering the tone. Then you know, concentrating on blockbuster stuff, high and mighty nonsense that rubs poorly against the b-grade writing - which would be perfectly great if the tone was as consistent as it was in the first. Either way I'm curious, and I still have to finish the third. Hooboy.
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#13 Posted by PAL360 (29019 posts) -

I love ME lore and universe. Can't wait for what ever they are doing with the series.

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#14 Posted by LadyBlue (4943 posts) -
I like ME, but I wish they would do a sequel to Jade Empire. Game was so sweet.
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#15 Posted by funsohng (29944 posts) -
A prequel that is an open world space sex sim. That or bust.
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#16 Posted by Neon_Noir (1466 posts) -

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to. 

padaporra
because it's better. ME1 > ME2.
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#17 Posted by LadyBlue (4943 posts) -
A prequel that is an open world space sex sim. That or bust.funsohng
The race to see who can bed the most Asari is on.
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#18 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

A prequel that is an open world space sex sim. That or bust.funsohng

Your probably not far off.

 Except for the open world part.

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#19 Posted by CanYouDiglt (8232 posts) -
I would like this trilogy to be less grand scale you know saving the entire galaxy and what not. Also not a N7 type soldier but more average. Maybe just a person on Omega that gets caught up with the Blue Suns or something and leads into a big adventure.
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#20 Posted by PAL360 (29019 posts) -

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to.

padaporra

I loved both, but overall i prefer ME1.

ME1 - better story, better soundtrack (imo), better RPG elements and better exploration (loved exploring uncharted worlds with mako).

ME2 - better graphics, better gameplay and loved some characters.

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#21 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (29703 posts) -

I am pleased with this decision.

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#22 Posted by ShadowriverUB (5515 posts) -
Mass Effect is physical phenomenon that exist in game world, it's not attached to "shepard story" (i think since i only played ME1 begining and spoiled my self with ME3 ending), so i don't see how this is disservice and confuse people..... more people will be confused if it will be named diffrently. Or else they plan to place game in diffrent world (as after ME3 conclusions changes to universe are dramatic depending on player choose)
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#23 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

Mass Effect is physical phenomenon that exist in game world, it's not attached to "shepard story" (i think since i only played ME1 begining and spoiled my self with ME3 ending), so i don't see how this is disservice and confuse people..... more people will be confused if it will be named diffrently. Or else they plan to place game in diffrent world (as after ME3 conclusions changes to universe are dramatic depending on player choose)ShadowriverUB

That sig :lol:

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#24 Posted by guard12 (2018 posts) -

Love the ME series. Even 3 (come at me). I can't wait to see how they expand the lore.

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#25 Posted by silversix_ (26347 posts) -
same team that worked on ME3 side quests? OMFG you know ME4 will be good............................
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#26 Posted by musalala (3034 posts) -

The new ME game will be a straight FPS, I think they don't want to call it mass effect to avoid any negative association with the sh8tstorm created by ME 3 and also to allow them to create an entirely new game that has zero associatons with previous incarnations so they can make the afore mention FPS game.

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#27 Posted by ShadowriverUB (5515 posts) -

The new ME game will be a straight FPS, I think they don't want to call it mass effect to avoid any negative association with the sh8tstorm created by ME 3 and also to allow them to create an entirely new game that has zero associatons with previous incarnations so they can make the afore mention FPS game.

musalala
I think that would be final death of BioWare as RPG developer, or else EA give that task to some other devloper
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#28 Posted by Sagem28 (10498 posts) -

Love the ME series. Even 3 (come at me).

guard12

It's cool, bro.

We all make mistakes.

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#29 Posted by DivineSword (15839 posts) -

They can do Mass Effect 4, but couldn't even do a sequel to Jade Empire? I am not asking for 3 or 4 titles, just one game with updated graphic and gameplay is all I am asking for.

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#30 Posted by SecretPolice (32936 posts) -

They can do Mass Effect 4, but couldn't even do a sequel to Jade Empire? I am not asking for 3 or 4 titles, just one game with updated graphic and gameplay is all I am asking for.

DivineSword

A next gen JE2 announcement would have me giddy as a lil school girl. :oops:

Well, as long is it was true to the original and not turned into a TPS. :P

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#32 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

if they wanted to make a ME4 they should have chosen a less apocalyptic ending in ME3

AmnesiaHaze

i doubt it's going to be in the same universe, it can be a totally new one with borrowed things like races and so on.

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#33 Posted by Minishdriveby (10520 posts) -

I'm not sure if he knows what a sequel is....

For example, his WW analogy is an analogy of a sequel. It takes place after the first and is influenced by the first thus sequel... It doesn't have to have the same characters or be close together in time. It just needs to be set in the same universe after the first to be considered a sequel. Lots of science fiction works do this, some even take place 10,000 years after the preceding book. And if they do that then they indeed have to take into consideration the 3 endings of Mass Effect 3.

Basically what I took from this is it's not a sequel, it's not a prequel, it's not a side story. It's nothing at the moment. They have no clue what they're going to do right now.

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#34 Posted by DivineSword (15839 posts) -

A next gen JE2 announcement would have me giddy as a lil school girl. :oops:

Well, as long is it was true to the original and not turned into a TPS. :P

SecretPolice

Considering that usage of guns in ancient china was rare, probably wouldn't have to worry about that.:P

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#35 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30833 posts) -
Can't wait :) Haven't played any of the DLC's yet for ME3, will wait til they're all out and then do one final playthrough *sniffle*
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#36 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30833 posts) -

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

A next gen JE2 announcement would have me giddy as a lil school girl. :oops:

Well, as long is it was true to the original and not turned into a TPS. :P

DivineSword

Considering that usage of guns in ancient china was rare, probably wouldn't have to worry about that.:P

Just started another playthrough of JE on steam as it happens! :) Please Bioware get back to what made us love you!
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#37 Posted by DivineSword (15839 posts) -

Can't wait :) Haven't played any of the DLC's yet for ME3, will wait til they're all out and then do one final playthrough *sniffle*blue_hazy_basic
You're not missing much with the ME3 dlc, terrible compare to the ones in ME2.

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#38 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30833 posts) -

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"]Can't wait :) Haven't played any of the DLC's yet for ME3, will wait til they're all out and then do one final playthrough *sniffle*DivineSword

You're not missing much with the ME3 dlc, terrible compare to the ones in ME2.

doh.
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#39 Posted by BigDaddyPOLO (2251 posts) -

I cannot comprehend how anyone can say ME1 is better than ME2. And after I saw people defending ME1's DLC, I just gave up any effort to. 

padaporra

What? Bring Down the Sky was great though?

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#40 Posted by rockydog1111 (2079 posts) -

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Agreed, they should have called it 'Turd person shooter 4'

SecretPolice

Sounds like that could be a fun, wacky kinda shooter but eh, in the end, it would likely turn out to be a real stinker. :twisted:

Good word play. 10/10
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#41 Posted by deactivated-59b71619573a1 (38222 posts) -

A prequel that is an open world space sex sim. That or bust.funsohng

Bust, I get it :D

Anyway, they need to change a lot about the gameplay to make me interested. Doesn't matter what they call it. Give me a proper RPG more like what ME1 was.

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#42 Posted by drinkerofjuice (4567 posts) -

Whatever the story may be, I want it to be years before or after the Commander Shep saga. They have near endless possibilities with the universe to the extent where the trilogy can be easily dwarfed.

And it doesn't have to be a galaxy-trotting adventure either. I wouldn't mind a game being entriely centered around a place like Omega or the Citadel as long as those locations are overhauled with detail.

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#43 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30833 posts) -

[QUOTE="funsohng"]A prequel that is an open world space sex sim. That or bust.seanmcloughlin

Bust, I get it :D

Anyway, they need to change a lot about the gameplay to make me interested. Doesn't matter what they call it. Give me a proper RPG more like what ME1 was.

I'd like a big universe, with lots of side exploration available.
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#44 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30833 posts) -
Whatever the story may be, I want it to be years before the Commander Shep saga. They have near endless possibilities with the universe to the extent where the trilogy can be easily dwarfed.drinkerofjuice
I'd be excited by either. There are so many rich opportunities in the pre-shep universe to set a story, but at the same time the shattered pieces of whats left after 3 is so intriguing ....
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#45 Posted by SecretPolice (32936 posts) -

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="funsohng"]A prequel that is an open world space sex sim. That or bust.blue_hazy_basic

Bust, I get it :D

Anyway, they need to change a lot about the gameplay to make me interested. Doesn't matter what they call it. Give me a proper RPG more like what ME1 was.

I'd like a big universe, with lots of side exploration available.

That's what I'm talinbout - also included should be well done, player controlled, surface, air and space vehicles. :D

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#46 Posted by blue_hazy_basic (30833 posts) -

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

Bust, I get it :D

Anyway, they need to change a lot about the gameplay to make me interested. Doesn't matter what they call it. Give me a proper RPG more like what ME1 was.

SecretPolice

I'd like a big universe, with lots of side exploration available.

That's what I'm talinbout - also included should be well done, player controlled, surface, air and space vehicles. :D

:o that might be a bit of a huge undertaking if you include air vehicles!
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#47 Posted by SecretPolice (32936 posts) -

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I'd like a big universe, with lots of side exploration available.blue_hazy_basic

That's what I'm talinbout - also included should be well done, player controlled, surface, air and space vehicles. :D

:o that might be a bit of a huge undertaking if you include air vehicles!

Eh, perhaps I'm just spoiled by Bungie dev'ed Halo Reach that included all that and it's just a FPS. :o C'mon Bio, you can do it. :P

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#48 Posted by deactivated-59b71619573a1 (38222 posts) -

[QUOTE="SecretPolice"]

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I'd like a big universe, with lots of side exploration available.blue_hazy_basic

That's what I'm talinbout - also included should be well done, player controlled, surface, air and space vehicles. :D

:o that might be a bit of a huge undertaking if you include air vehicles!

And frankly, I don't think Bioware could do it well. 

I would like a LOT of exploration. That's what I meant by more like ME1. Give me a lot of places to search or at least a few big areas like the citadel from the first. It pained me to see how they kept stripping away the citadel each sequel. 

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#49 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -
It doesn't have to be called Mass Effect at all. Give it a new name.
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#50 Posted by GD1551 (9645 posts) -

It doesn't have to be called Mass Effect at all. Give it a new name.blackace

What? That makes no sense. I hope it occurs after to be honest, and that the story alot more personal so to speak. No hero of the galaxy stuff.