Bioshock infinite review changed, now has a 4 instead of 9.

Seems more accurate than the first time they reviewed it.

I agree. It was garbage.

Funny

It's an overrated, corridor shooter with no soul. It deserves that score.

Ellen Page simulator: 9.0

Bioshock Infinite: 4.0

"My name is Tom McShea and I'm here to write shitty reviews for page hits."

No a broken game would be a 1 or 2. 4 would be a functional game that isn't all that enjoyable.
I hate how people like you are dumbing down reviews to the point that anything below 9 isn't worth looking at.

Even though I really disliked Bioshock Infinite. I think it doesn't deserve a 4 on a 10 scale.

It's going to be amazing when some past flops like Skyward Sword and The Last of Us get re-reviewed by Carolyn Petite, and she not-so-fasts McShea with something like a 3.

@toast_burner:

So "a functional game that isn't all that enjoyable" is a poor game?

Yes. Being enjoyable is a very important aspect for any game.

As long as there're aspects of the game that are enjoyable; in this case: Gorgeous visual design, Amazing soundtrack, IN ADDITION to being a functional game, the game is not a 4/10.

You are aware reviews are just opinions? To some people art and sound simply isn't enough.

Not sure why this very simple concept is hard to grasp for some people.

I don't know about you but Bioshock Infinite was the first game in the series that I played from start to finish without really putting it down. Overall, it was enjoyable game the whole way through, with certain glaring problems in design (f*ck the final boss fight and the three-part ghost bullshit). Today, I'd give the game an 8.0 for combining a really engaging narrative and setting with "okay" gameplay, though the mechanical shallowness becomes more apparent the more you play. At the very least I see this game getting a 7.0.

I agree that enjoyment is fundamental to any game, but to say that Bioshock Infinite was not enjoyable at all is pretty unbelievable. There are games that were not enjoyable at all who rightfully deserved below-5 scores: Final Fantasy XIV 1.0, Resident Evil 6. To equate Bioshock Infinite to such broken, unplayable, and un-fun games is disingenuous. To me it reeks of a personal vendetta against the game spurred by the high acclaim it received following its release rather than an honest, fair assessment of how Infinite holds up today.

If you're free, read my post from last page where I pointed out how contradictory his opinion is. You can't just jump around and say "lalala it's my opinion" while you can't even be consistent with it.

Lets return to that very simple concept I discussed earlier, OPINIONS

Nothing is objectively enjoyable or boring. He could say it's the most boring game ever made and it's as valid as you saying it's enjoyable.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2013-10-10-sources-grand-theft-auto-5-out-on-pc-early-2014

lightleggy: new site is hard to sign in yo. Btw pc gta6 is coming out yo

I normally call an opinion without sufficient or reasonable back up bullshit.

McShea enlightened me on a lot of things that I had sensed but not realized. I kind of wish I hadn't read the review because of it. I do agree that the score is a little sensational and if nothing else, lends to the argument that we shouldn't use scores

So claiming it's an enjoyable game without backing it up (like that guy did) is bullshit.

It's not bullshit to not back up your opinion with reasoning. It's just entirely useless information.

It's actually a neat idea to have multiple reviews from multiple people for a game. I wonder how it'll fit in the SW meta game.

I totally disagree with McShea though, like most of his reviews. Bioshock is waaaaay beter than a 4

It's not amazing, but a 4/10 seems a bit harsh.

I seem to be one of the only ones here who thinks it deserves a 9.0

lel

It seems like people have either forgotten or didn't read, but gamespot is now offering differing reviews. They are not changing the review score. As you can see, the 9.0 original review is still there. They are trying to offer differing viewpoints now, and so this is just an example of that.

Reviewing this game myself i probably wouldnt give it more than a 5...easily the purchase i regret the most from the games i bought this year....pretty to look at but a complete chore to play....it's beauty is only skin deep. The annoying thing is i actually trusted the GS initial review enough to buy it... if only we'd had a review which highlights the GAMEPLAY flaws like this one did back then i could have saved myself some money.... that was pretty much the last time i trusted a GS review to give me good advice about what games are and arnt worth my time and money.

Lol, no wonder i have not bothered finish it, loved the 1st game tho :P

This will could change system wars dramatically...

You mistake my point. I'm not defending Tom's review, the fact that this is the first second review they did speaks volumes for what its real purpose is.

I'm saying that your statement is complete and utter bullshit. You can make a game with great production value, and have it be a fundamentally bad/poor videogame. The scale below 5/10 should not be reserved for games that are simply broken only. "It works" should not be enough to mean badly designed games are automatically mediocre/fair on the premise that "hey it might suck, but at least works". And tedium above all else is definitely a sign of bad game.

And no I didn't call you stupid, but your logic? Completely flawed. You're too focused on the person's background, and his taste in reflection to your own. I'm arguing that from a scale standpoint there is nothing wrong with giving a game like Bioshock Infinite a 4/10 assuming you could argue it correctly.

Its not a 4 instead of a 9 .

Kevin Vanord´s review is still there, this is just a review from Tom and his opinion.

love this game and Lizzy as well

You didn't agree our original review? Here, a new feature! Look at this cynical, contrarian, contrived, inane, entitled, and pretentious review. Just to appease the haters, and possibly to stir controversy.

AppeasementSpot™.

So you went completely out of the context of the topic and chose to argue with half of my point (or in fact, ONLY the very last part of my statement). I don't wanna go into a semantic argument here, but it seems you were too quick to jump into conclusion and so overly argumentative that you've missed what I meant, "something like" =/= only, i was simply give examples of what a fundamentally bad game would be, those 2 are what on top of my head at that time. If you don't accept that argument, then fine, just consider my original statement stupid, I'd agree as well.

But, I have comeback to this case again, because arguing without context is stupid, pointless and is a waste of time. As many have pointed out, you cannot simply give this game a 4/10 without cherry picking and/or using hyperbole. Sure there's nothing wrong with someone giving the game that score, but there's nothing wrong to argue against that score either. Opinions CAN be refuted, if it's based on logical fallacy. That is exactly what happens in this particular case, focusing on Tom background and his previous review is essential for my argument, so that I can expose his bullshit, and his inconsistency for citing a game mechanic to criticize one game while using the similar mechanic to praise the other.

Pretty much.

For a game to receive 4, it would need to be seriously broken and (close to) unplayable, which Infinite is not. The review is laughable.

This ^

McShea is an ***hole. I'm pretty sure he gets his jollies from trolling GS users.

He is certainly allowed to have issues with a game... but there is nothing in Bioshock Infinite that warrants a 4/10 score.

If you think BIoshock Infinite is a 4/10... take a look at games in the past that have scored a 3, 4 or 5 here at GS.... and tell me honestly you think the games are on the same level quality wise.

It's his opinion and he is entitled to it. I don't really disagree with most of his criticisms, but i do feel that he over stated them. I loved the game and have beaten it multiple times and have enjoyed it every time.

Ahh I get it now. Tom McShea is the Quarter to Three guy of GS.

@PhazonBlazer: Nah, I gave it a 9.5

A well goddamn game!

Maybe they can either do an average but than Bioshock Infinite will only have a 6.5 out of 10 if they did the average. Or it could be like Game Informer and other magazines that had a second opinion where only the main review counted.

Some who's mad about this, I have a question for you plz answer as honestly as possible.

Q: Why are you mad?

As I said in the comments for the review, I'm all for a second opinion piece, but if doing such a blatant troll review of a game that is almost 7 months old is what we can expect from them, then don't bother. Why aren't we seeing second opinions for games that are almost out, like Pokemon X/Y or Beyond? Tragically, it seems like this feature is just a poor excuse for the reviewers here to vent about the games they liked or didn't like.

As for a 4/10... lol. I get that some parts of reviews are subjective, but this is just ridiculous. Games that are playable with little to no bugs or function flaws, and including the same features as their peers, should at the very least be considered 5/10. 4/10 puts this right around Lair territory, a game with solid presentation and utterly broken controls. Hell, Sonic 2006 got a 4.4. Reviews have been harsher since then, sure, but for gods sake why would you destroy any credibility you have by nearly equating this with Sonic 06?!

Haha, I just noticed it wasn't a glitch.

I'm all for it. They should let him re-review every major game of the past 5 years in this fashion, and the entire game industry can witness his glorious self-destructive meltdown

GS so thirsty for hits.

#DaThirst

Hahahahahaha this is great!

Totally. They need to drag more helpless victims into this mess of a redesign.

This site really needed more trash to spruce it up.

at least this site has an accurate review now.

Tom seems to write controversial reviews to get attention. He might as well give it a 1

Pretty much this....

Strikes me as more tabloid than game reviewing.

Actually Playing this game on 99 mode does make it deeply flawed and unfinnishable. If you don't die then you can complete it pretty easy but dying just 3 to 5 times will put a serious dent in your wallet which will prevent you from buying the upgrades you need to boost your own stats to keep up with the Mega Damage sponges and high damage dealing capabilities of the baddies. This is even worse than the difficulty concepts used in Dark Souls. Also F#ck numbers ! They're a waste of time, and a crappy criteria to used when buying a game.