Bioshock: Infinite HYPE THREAD (56k) 9.0 @ GS! (96 @ MC)

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#501 heretrix
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GOTY!

I hate to be that person, but I think it should have gotten a 9.5. Kevin barely criticized it and said that the worst thing was minor quirks. If that can't transcend a 9.0, then nothing will. 

17/36 reviews on Metacritic are 100s. Wow. 

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Don't hate to be that person, just don't be that person.

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#502 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]its pretty stupid to argue over which version is better. but hey,thats SW for ya.StrongBlackVine

Not if there is an actual better version.

That is subjective.

No it's not. When one version does better resolutions, better assets and better performance, it's not subjective it's a fact

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#503 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Not if there is an actual better version.

seanmcloughlin

That is subjective.

No it's not. When one version does better resolutions, better assets and better performance, it's not subjective it's a fact

That is if your PC can handle it yes. That is an assumption that doesn't apply to the majority of PC gamers. So it is subjective.

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#504 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]its pretty stupid to argue over which version is better. but hey,thats SW for ya.StrongBlackVine

Not if there is an actual better version.

That is subjective.

Not if there is a real tangible difference. Better graphical fidelity isn't subjective, it's a real difference. Now whether or not that matters to you is a different story. 

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#505 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="jessejay420"]its pretty stupid to argue over which version is better. but hey,thats SW for ya.StrongBlackVine

Not if there is an actual better version.

That is subjective.

So a game running at a higher resolution and a smoother frame rate along with sharper textures and better lighting is subjective?...

  • Subjective - Opinion, perspective, preference. 
  • Objective - Fact.

Here's a something that may help you:

Definition of Objective and Subjective
Objective is a statement that is completely unbiased. It is not touched by the speakers previous experiences or tastes. It is verifiable by looking up facts or performing mathematical calculations.
Subjective  is a statement that has been colored by the character of the speaker or writer. It often has a basis in reality, but reflects the perspective through with the speaker views reality. It cannot be verified using concrete facts and figures.

 


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#506 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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That is if your PC can handle it yes. That is an assumption that doesn't apply to the majority of PC gamers. So it is subjective.

StrongBlackVine

Doesn't matter if MY PC can run it or not (It can flawlessly BTW) the fact still stands the PC version is better as a product or at least has the potential to be better. 

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#507 IPWNDU2
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So this is going to unlock around 1pm EST tomorrow on Steam right?

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#508 Fizzman
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So this is going to unlock around 1pm EST tomorrow on Steam right?

IPWNDU2

Midnight EST.  

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#509 IPWNDU2
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[QUOTE="IPWNDU2"]

So this is going to unlock around 1pm EST tomorrow on Steam right?

Fizzman

Midnight EST.  

 

Sweet. The store page says it will unlock in 20 hrs for me lol I was just curious.

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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]

Not if there is an actual better version.

Grey_Eyed_Elf

That is subjective.

So a game running at a higher resolution and a smoother frame rate along with sharper textures and better lighting is subjective?...

  • Subjective - Opinion, perspective, preference. 
  • Objective - Fact.

Here's a something that may help you:

Definition of Objective and Subjective
Objective is a statement that is completely unbiased. It is not touched by the speakers previous experiences or tastes. It is verifiable by looking up facts or performing mathematical calculations.
Subjective  is a statement that has been colored by the character of the speaker or writer. It often has a basis in reality, but reflects the perspective through with the speaker views reality. It cannot be verified using concrete facts and figures.

 

 


who are you going to believe?

him or your lying ass eyes.

7 year old consoles get the best version!

that shyt is a FAKT!

;)

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#511 heretrix
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

That is subjective.

StrongBlackVine

No it's not. When one version does better resolutions, better assets and better performance, it's not subjective it's a fact

That is if your PC can handle it yes. That is an assumption that doesn't apply to the majority of PC gamers. So it is subjective.

the fact that people don't have a PC powerful enough to enjoy the full resolutions doesn't eliminate the fact that it's a better version, well graphically at least..

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#512 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

No it's not. When one version does better resolutions, better assets and better performance, it's not subjective it's a fact

heretrix

That is if your PC can handle it yes. That is an assumption that doesn't apply to the majority of PC gamers. So it is subjective.

the fact that people don't have a PC powerful enough to enjoy the full resolutions doesn't eliminate the fact that it's a better version, well graphically at least..

OK fine. Can get back to discussing the actual game. We have enough topics about this already.

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#513 heretrix
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[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

That is subjective.

Riverwolf007

So a game running at a higher resolution and a smoother frame rate along with sharper textures and better lighting is subjective?...

  • Subjective - Opinion, perspective, preference. 
  • Objective - Fact.

Here's a something that may help you:

Definition of Objective and Subjective
Objective is a statement that is completely unbiased. It is not touched by the speakers previous experiences or tastes. It is verifiable by looking up facts or performing mathematical calculations.
Subjective  is a statement that has been colored by the character of the speaker or writer. It often has a basis in reality, but reflects the perspective through with the speaker views reality. It cannot be verified using concrete facts and figures.

 

 


who are you going to believe?

him or your lying ass eyes.

7 year old consoles get the best version!

that shyt is a FAKT!

;)

Gotta love slideshow mode. Sub 30 fps ftw.

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#514 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

That is if your PC can handle it yes. That is an assumption that doesn't apply to the majority of PC gamers. So it is subjective.

StrongBlackVine

the fact that people don't have a PC powerful enough to enjoy the full resolutions doesn't eliminate the fact that it's a better version, well graphically at least..

OK fine. Can get back to discussing the actual game. We have enough topics about this already.

cool. But I can't play it yet. so......

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#515 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

[QUOTE="Grey_Eyed_Elf"] So a game running at a higher resolution and a smoother frame rate along with sharper textures and better lighting is subjective?...

  • Subjective - Opinion, perspective, preference. 
  • Objective - Fact.

Here's a something that may help you:

Definition of Objective and Subjective
Objective is a statement that is completely unbiased. It is not touched by the speakers previous experiences or tastes. It is verifiable by looking up facts or performing mathematical calculations.
Subjective  is a statement that has been colored by the character of the speaker or writer. It often has a basis in reality, but reflects the perspective through with the speaker views reality. It cannot be verified using concrete facts and figures.

 

 


heretrix

who are you going to believe?

him or your lying ass eyes.

7 year old consoles get the best version!

that shyt is a FAKT!

;)

Gotta love slideshow mode. Sub 30 fps ftw.

OK dork. Let's discuss the game and stop jerking over textures frame rates. I have owned a high end gaming PC before. It is not some glorious experience.

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#516 StrongBlackVine
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[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

[QUOTE="heretrix"]the fact that people don't have a PC powerful enough to enjoy the full resolutions doesn't eliminate the fact that it's a better version, well graphically at least..

heretrix

OK fine. Can get back to discussing the actual game. We have enough topics about this already.

cool. But I can't play it yet. so......

Too late. You let your inner dork out.

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#517 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

That is subjective.

StrongBlackVine

No it's not. When one version does better resolutions, better assets and better performance, it's not subjective it's a fact

That is if your PC can handle it yes. That is an assumption that doesn't apply to the majority of PC gamers. So it is subjective.

You are missing the objective here. If an option exists and offers a better(measurable) experience its the victor neither price or accessibility should be a factor in the discussion in the subject of superiority.
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#518 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]who are you going to believe?

him or your lying ass eyes.

7 year old consoles get the best version!

that shyt is a FAKT!

;)

StrongBlackVine

Gotta love slideshow mode. Sub 30 fps ftw.

OK dork. Let's discuss the game and stop jerking over textures frame rates. I have owned a high end gaming PC before. It is not some glorious experience.

Your ad hominem attacks are not only child like and repetitive... But they also point to an alarmingly obvious inferiority complex. Do you feel the need to call people dorks because you feel intimidated by intellectual and or informed people or are you just a child?
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

That is if your PC can handle it yes. That is an assumption that doesn't apply to the majority of PC gamers. So it is subjective.

StrongBlackVine

the fact that people don't have a PC powerful enough to enjoy the full resolutions doesn't eliminate the fact that it's a better version, well graphically at least..

OK fine. Can get back to discussing the actual game. We have enough topics about this already.

You're the one who brought it up, don't get p!ssy about it now

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#521 heretrix
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

OK fine. Can get back to discussing the actual game. We have enough topics about this already.

StrongBlackVine

cool. But I can't play it yet. so......

Too late. You let your inner dork out.

Lol. Don't get mad because you have the equivalent of gaming training wheels.

Don't worry daddy will buy you a big boy bike pretty soon.

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I hate to be that person, but I think it should have gotten a 9.5. Kevin barely criticized it and said that the worst thing was minor quirks. If that can't transcend a 9.0, then nothing will.Big_Pecks

Imma just post this and then put it in my sig, because explaining it each time is getting old.

I just want to say--again--something I have said many, many times before: Dispel the notion that a game starts at a 10, and gets points "docked" from it. That would be a really silly way to review a game.

[...]

Game reviews aren't mathematical logarithms. They are the result of an experience that makes an impression on the mental and emotional superhighway of the game reviewer. I don't have a spreadsheet that starts with a 10 and has calculations built in, where "low frame rate" = a .25 hit to the score. It doesn't work that way, and thank God for that.Kevin-V

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[QUOTE="jessejay420"]its pretty stupid to argue over which version is better. but hey,thats SW for ya.heretrix

Not if there is an actual better version.

This.  The console version is noted to have major frame rate dips and very muddy gfx.

 

PC version is factually better.

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#524 klusps
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lol in Columbia apparently the Irish are a problem in the society :lol: 

seanmcloughlin

Nice to see Ken Leveine include many overlooked parts in history. America apparently has a history of being racist towards Irish immigrants because they're Catholics.

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#525 Master_ShakeXXX
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Only 9.0? But the metacritic rating is 95. Gamespot is clearly biased and wants this game to fail.

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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

lol in Columbia apparently the Irish are a problem in the society :lol: 

klusps

Nice to see Ken Leveine include many overlooked parts in history. America apparently has a history of being racist towards Irish immigrants because they're Catholics.

I don't know if I would really call that overlooked. My high school went over it pretty well, and it is portrayed in quite a few movies.
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[QUOTE="heretrix"]

[QUOTE="StrongBlackVine"]

OK fine. Can get back to discussing the actual game. We have enough topics about this already.

StrongBlackVine

cool. But I can't play it yet. so......

Too late. You let your inner dork out.

He's a dork for proving you wrong? :?

That's some quality debating, right there!

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[QUOTE="klusps"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

lol in Columbia apparently the Irish are a problem in the society :lol: 

ferret-gamer

Nice to see Ken Leveine include many overlooked parts in history. America apparently has a history of being racist towards Irish immigrants because they're Catholics.

I don't know if I would really call that overlooked. My high school went over it pretty well, and it is portrayed in quite a few movies.

Well it's very prevelant in the game. We get the same treatment as the blacks, so yeah it's good to see it be accurate. Iwas just surprised to see it :P

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Activated my copy on steam, just waiting to be able to download it. Since I didn't preorder on steam I don't get to preload.

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#530 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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95 on Metacritic? Dafuq
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#531 IPWNDU2
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 Since I didn't preorder on steam I don't get to preload.

Wasdie

 

Thats kind of a **** deal

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#532 AmazonTreeBoa
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Just got my email with my free CD Key. Am pre-loading it as I type this.

EDIT: I wonder if I will get the free stuff everybody else gets for pre-ordering. I got it free with my GPU.

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#533 RR360DD
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Are there only 9 reviews so far? And all 9 and above
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playing it now, i have to say i love that Rollercoaster function of moving around the city, so much fun, and Elizabeth is one of the most amazing characters i've ever seen in a game, she interacts with you and pretty much everything you do in the city, she's pretty entertaining

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#535 kozzy1234
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Are there only 9 reviews so far? And all 9 and aboveRR360DD

38 reviews for the PC version already

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Are there only 9 reviews so far? And all 9 and aboveRR360DD
PC version has like 30 something reviews
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95 on Metacritic? Dafuqcharizard1605

It has 16 100/100 scores 

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#539 finalstar2007
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Looking forward to this game!

Only NOT available on WiiU!!!!!

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#540 tagyhag
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95 on Metacritic? Dafuqcharizard1605
Look at the original Bioshock. Most reviewers love the series.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]95 on Metacritic? Dafuqseanmcloughlin

It has 16 100/100 scores 

J!zzed...

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[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Are there only 9 reviews so far? And all 9 and abovekozzy1234

38 reviews for the PC version already

Interesting how much review outlets received the PC version rather than the console version. Usually consoles get way more reviews done for games

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#543 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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It has 16 100/100 scores 

seanmcloughlin
It looks like I might have to change my stance towards this game

Looking forward to this game!

Only NOT available on WiiU!!!!!

finalstar2007
Ah, good old fashioned trolling. Never gets stale. Oh wait, it does.
Look at the original Bioshock. Most reviewers love the series. tagyhag
Bioshock 2 soured me too much.
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#544 the_bi99man
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Just got my email with my free CD Key. Am pre-loading it as I type this.

EDIT: I wonder if I will get the free stuff everybody else gets for pre-ordering. I got it free with my GPU.

AmazonTreeBoa

I would assume not.

Still though. Free Bioshock Infinite? Can't complain.

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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Are there only 9 reviews so far? And all 9 and aboveBPoole96

38 reviews for the PC version already

Interesting how much review outlets received the PC version rather than the console version. Usually consoles get way more reviews done for games

Which is a very nice change, possibly because there's no lead platform.
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#546 finalstar2007
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"] It looks like I might have to change my stance towards this game [QUOTE="finalstar2007"]

Looking forward to this game!

Only NOT available on WiiU!!!!!

charizard1605

Ah, good old fashioned trolling. Never gets stale. Oh wait, it does.
Look at the original Bioshock. Most reviewers love the series. tagyhag
Bioshock 2 soured me too much.

I couldnt resist charz >_>

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#547 the_bi99man
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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Look at the original Bioshock. Most reviewers love the series. charizard1605
Bioshock 2 soured me too much.

Keep in mind that Bioshock 2 wasn't made by Ken Levine/Irrational Games. It was a cash in sequel that 2K gave to their inhouse studios, 2K Marin and 2K Australia. Irrational made the first one, and has been working on Infinite since before BS2 released.

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#548 kozzy1234
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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

[QUOTE="RR360DD"]Are there only 9 reviews so far? And all 9 and aboveBPoole96

38 reviews for the PC version already

Interesting how much review outlets received the PC version rather than the console version. Usually consoles get way more reviews done for games

Definitive  version is on PC, makes sense to send review places the PC version if it runs best and looks best.

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[QUOTE="klusps"]

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

lol in Columbia apparently the Irish are a problem in the society :lol: 

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Nice to see Ken Leveine include many overlooked parts in history. America apparently has a history of being racist towards Irish immigrants because they're Catholics.

I don't know if I would really call that overlooked. My high school went over it pretty well, and it is portrayed in quite a few movies.

Gangs of New York kinda covered it aswell.

Can't wait to get this but i still need to finish Bioshock 2 before i do, so many games so little time...

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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]Look at the original Bioshock. Most reviewers love the series. the_bi99man

Bioshock 2 soured me too much.

Keep in mind that Bioshock 2 wasn't made by Ken Levine/Irrational Games. It was a cash in sequel that 2K gave to their inhouse studios, 2K Marin and 2K Australia. Irrational made the first one, and has been working on Infinite since before BS2 released.

I know, but... you know, just when you get soured. I guess I will look into this sometime soon though.