Bethesda apologizes for Starfield exclusivity

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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https://www.ign.com/articles/starfield-xbox-exclusive-bethesda-apology-playstation

After months of "will they, won't they" speculation, Microsoft and Bethesda have confirmed that its upcoming RPG Starfield will be an Xbox Series X|S and PC exclusive. And though this may be frustrating for PlayStation owners, Bethesda's longtime marketing boss Pete Hines says he understands this is disappointing, and apologized.

"If you're a big fan of stuff we make and a game that we're making is no longer available on your platform I totally understand if you are unhappy or pissed. I get it, those are all real feelings and frustrations," Hines said in an interview with GameSpot.

"I don’t know how to allay the fears and concerns of PlayStation 5 fans other than to say, 'Well, I’m a PlayStation 5 player as well,' Hines added. "And I’ve played games on that console, and there’s games I’m gonna continue to play on it. But if you want to play Starfield? PC and Xbox."

"Sorry, all I can really say is, 'I apologize,' because I'm certain that's frustrating to folks, but there's not a whole lot I can do about it."

Damn.. what do you think, SW? Does Bethesda really care about PS5 owners now that they're Phil's boys?

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#2  Edited By enzyme36
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Uncle Pete is a class act and a gentlemen. I have never heard a developer for PS or Nintendo apologize for an exclusive.

Capcom and SE... take notes.

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#3 JasonOfA36
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Just wait for 2 years. By then, Starfield may come to PS5. At least MS is getting their exclusives now.

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#4 hardwenzen
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What Mr Hines doesn't know is that every PS5 owner has a gaming rig, which is way more powerful than a Series X. So in reality, we don't care.

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Don’t apologize, just make it multiplat.

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#6  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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Todd Howard said

"at the end of the day, your ability to focus and say, this is the game I want to make, these are the platforms I want to make it on, and being able to really lean [into] those is going to make for a better product."

That doesn't really ring true because you know it was planned for PS as well and they had experience developing for the platform. Plus you know it will launch full of bugs even if they did cut out other platforms like PC and Series S and really "leaned into" the Series X.

Anyway too bad for those who were hoping to play it on PS but those are the breaks, every platform is going to have some exclusives. That this was made into one really makes me think MS really needed it, because earlier they were asserting Bethesda was going to operate independently but you know this decision was handed down to them.

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#7 Random_Matt
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He is likely any other gamer, want all games? Don't lock yourself behind one platform.

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....which brings us to the winning combo of PC/PS5.

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@SolidGame_basic: I thought you cows didn't care about Bethesda games?

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What is Sony's hard counter to Starfield this game was gonna sell gangbusters for sony in 2022 and it makes them look horrible to consumers is Sony gonna make this up or whats happening quarter 4 2022 is gonna look horrible on the book for sony now.

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It sucks for PS owners, and he gets that. I'd be the same, but business is business, and it doesn't always work out for everyone.

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@zerothehero said:

What is Sony's hard counter to Starfield this game was gonna sell gangbusters for sony in 2022 and it makes them look horrible to consumers is Sony gonna make this up or whats happening quarter 4 2022 is gonna look horrible on the book for sony now.

Well, ProtossRush 😄, Sony will continue to deliver high quality games.

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"It's exclusive to everything but PS5 and Switch," basically. If people want it there are more than enough ways to get it.... and deal with shit gameplay and horrible bugs. 😁

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Light a candle for their soul.

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#15 sheep99
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Lol there is nothing to apologize, for starters Gamepass will be everywhere no need for Xbox console to own at all, and Bethesda is not what they used to be all they do is release buggy Games and the only game that interest me is Starfield because its a new IP and i really know nothing about it all it is as of right now is a hyped game,

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@zerothehero: "What is Sony's hard counter to Starfield this game was gonna sell gangbusters for sony in 2022”

Bethesda games are huge on PC, not so much in consoles.

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@Chutebox said:

"It's exclusive to everything but PS5 and Switch," basically. If people want it there are more than enough ways to get it.... and deal with shit gameplay and horrible bugs. 😁

You're talking about piracy? Sigh I'm so sick of these bottom of the barrel comments. Maybe we should call this place "theft wars" and brag about stealing from game companies we don't like?

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#18  Edited By Fedor
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@shadyacshuns said:
@Chutebox said:

"It's exclusive to everything but PS5 and Switch," basically. If people want it there are more than enough ways to get it.... and deal with shit gameplay and horrible bugs. 😁

You're talking about piracy? Sigh I'm so sick of these bottom of the barrel comments. Maybe we should call this place "theft wars" and brag about stealing from game companies we don't like?

He's not talking about piracy... Christ, what an insane leap.

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#19 Pedro
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Sony fans wanted exclusives or should I say Microsoft to make games not available on PS and their wish came through. 🤷‍♀️

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#20  Edited By lundy86_4
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@shadyacshuns said:
@Chutebox said:

"It's exclusive to everything but PS5 and Switch," basically. If people want it there are more than enough ways to get it.... and deal with shit gameplay and horrible bugs. 😁

You're talking about piracy? Sigh I'm so sick of these bottom of the barrel comments. Maybe we should call this place "theft wars" and brag about stealing from game companies we don't like?

You misunderstood that statement entirely. The "more than enough ways" are the PC and Xbox consoles... The part about bugs and shit gameplay is probably still on point.

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My bad then, guys, but in my defense I have heard PC gamers talking about pirating games here.

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What he meant to say was, “Sorry but it was too much money for us to turn down.”

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@slimdogmilionar said:

What he meant to say was, “Sorry but it was too much money for us to turn down.”

No! The company he works for was purchased by MS. He would not have any say on the workings of the company as a whole.

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Yeah it sucks when these things happen.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

https://www.ign.com/articles/starfield-xbox-exclusive-bethesda-apology-playstation

After months of "will they, won't they" speculation, Microsoft and Bethesda have confirmed that its upcoming RPG Starfield will be an Xbox Series X|S and PC exclusive. And though this may be frustrating for PlayStation owners, Bethesda's longtime marketing boss Pete Hines says he understands this is disappointing, and apologized.

"If you're a big fan of stuff we make and a game that we're making is no longer available on your platform I totally understand if you are unhappy or pissed. I get it, those are all real feelings and frustrations," Hines said in an interview with GameSpot.

"I don’t know how to allay the fears and concerns of PlayStation 5 fans other than to say, 'Well, I’m a PlayStation 5 player as well,' Hines added. "And I’ve played games on that console, and there’s games I’m gonna continue to play on it. But if you want to play Starfield? PC and Xbox."

"Sorry, all I can really say is, 'I apologize,' because I'm certain that's frustrating to folks, but there's not a whole lot I can do about it."

Damn.. what do you think, SW? Does Bethesda really care about PS5 owners now that they're Phil's boys?

I imagine it's a lot of money changing hands and you should get a PC or Xbox, or just wait.

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No need to apologize. Sometimes MS like throwing around big dumb money for no reason and you have to take it.

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#28 Pedro
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@regnaston: You got to love the media. They can be so honest. 😐

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@jasonofa36: it’s never coming to PS. Halo is never coming to PS. God of War is never coming to Xbox.

They are exclusive.

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@x_hedon: Good then. Might make cows shut up about how MS doesn't have exclusives.

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@jasonofa36: Ain't that the truth. It only took 10+ years and two console generations....

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@regnaston: LMAO!!! Typical IGN

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Do sony devs apologize to Nintendo , Xbox and PC gamers when they paid these devs to only make ps games only ? NO. so cope and suffer ponies.

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I prefer my PS5. I don't own an XSX. That might change as exclusives and games I can't play on PS5 or Switch are released. Assuming they are decent. I don't entirely trust that just yet.

I think this is an important point as I said in that last sentence that exclusives are important to me. I don't blame MS for making Bethesda games exclusive. They want more people to come to GP and to even purchase Xboxes. This is a good way to do it. I do think that the devs at Bethesda were put in an awkward situation where they were developing this game for the PS5 and with the merger that was thrown out. Probably a lot of hate coming their way over that.

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@shadyacshuns said:
@Chutebox said:

"It's exclusive to everything but PS5 and Switch," basically. If people want it there are more than enough ways to get it.... and deal with shit gameplay and horrible bugs. 😁

You're talking about piracy? Sigh I'm so sick of these bottom of the barrel comments. Maybe we should call this place "theft wars" and brag about stealing from game companies we don't like?

As others have said...no I'm not.

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anyone can play the game on their PC, heck they can even just stream the game on an older pc if they have a direct ethernet connection with good speeds.

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@Jendeh: That was a big reason in me purchasing the XSX, I never bothered with the Xbone but MS have made some decent moves this time around. Now if only they stole some elements of Sony's controller because I love that thing

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#38 onesiphorus  Online
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No need to be a Barak Obama for apologizing for things that do not need to be apologizing. Is there anything wrong to have a game exclusive to a certain platform?

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@Chutebox said:
@shadyacshuns said:
@Chutebox said:

"It's exclusive to everything but PS5 and Switch," basically. If people want it there are more than enough ways to get it.... and deal with shit gameplay and horrible bugs. 😁

You're talking about piracy? Sigh I'm so sick of these bottom of the barrel comments. Maybe we should call this place "theft wars" and brag about stealing from game companies we don't like?

As others have said...no I'm not.

Sorry my dude.

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#40  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Hines saying "Yeah, bummer, sorry guys but it's out of my hands" and then Howard saying "Blah blah blah ummmmmm this will be good for the game blah blah blah" really showed just how out of touch people can be with gamers and peers.

@girlusocrazy said:

Todd Howard said

"at the end of the day, your ability to focus and say, this is the game I want to make, these are the platforms I want to make it on, and being able to really lean [into] those is going to make for a better product."

That doesn't really ring true because you know it was planned for PS as well and they had experience developing for the platform. Plus you know it will launch full of bugs even if they did cut out other platforms like PC and Series S and really "leaned into" the Series X.

Anyway too bad for those who were hoping to play it on PS but those are the breaks, every platform is going to have some exclusives. That this was made into one really makes me think MS really needed it, because earlier they were asserting Bethesda was going to operate independently but you know this decision was handed down to them.

Yeah, what a load of shit.

The technical aspects of porting a game/making it multiplatform, I would assume, have little to nothing to do with executing one's artistic vision, gameplay goals, and overall design in game development. Not having a game on one platform isn't going to make your game better--it could make it worse, sure, if you don't have it on PC because then you're just making it for console and at that point you're making a game for the lowest-common denominator and your value go out the door--but better? No way.

I'd honestly rather they say "Yeah, this is because of money" than hear him deliver that line of pure grade-A bull excrement.

The apology was nice, though, that felt sincere and I am thankful for that kind of recognition and pathos.

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#41  Edited By Litchie
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Yes but... have you seen their latest shit? I don't think PS owners will be missing much to be honest.

Also, IGN staff are such nice and honest people.

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#42 simple-facts
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Don't apologize Pete,cows love the exclusive route,until it was announced the ps games were all going to pc that is

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@hardwenzen said:

What Mr Hines doesn't know is that every PS5 owner has a gaming rig, which is way more powerful than a Series X. So in reality, we don't care.

Your avatar is a perfect summary of gamers' reactions during E3.

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Insomniac should take notes.

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#45 CanYouDiglt
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@wandering_halls said:

....which brings us to the winning combo of PC/PS5.

Playstation games are going to PC now. So why use the playstation controller which is the worst controller to play games. Just get the few playstation exclusive games that look good on the PC and play the rest on the Xbox with the best controller and Game Pass.

A PC/PS5 combo is basically saying pay the absolute most for gaming because of Sony and also have the worst controller.

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Sorry but not sorry.

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#47  Edited By UItravioIence
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RIP Bethesda. You had a good run

HaH

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@gym_lion: damit.you quoted me before I could change my post lol

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@gym_lion: damit.you quoted me before I could change my post lol

I'll delete it then.