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Poll Best Narrative in an open world game? (43 votes)

Mass Effect 35%
Assassin's Creed 14%
GTA 23%
Elder Scrolls 5%
Fallout 14%
LA Noire 7%
Fable 2%

What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best? I've played all the major releases and have been looking for a game that does this for the most part. Most of these have great stories but you either like them and follow them or don't. For example I've always preferred the assassin's creed games over GTA because the story is just more appealing to me. It has a good mix of things to do, good gameplay and a tighter narrative then most of these other games.

We also need more detective games. LA Noire was great this way but the gameplay and things to do left a lot to be desired. What I want is oldschool sierra and lucasarts games in an open world with good action, story etc..

These are the best i can come up with. All these games seem scalable where they should be able to create more mission variety but too many of these games still go for the lowest common denominator. I really can't stand GTA this way. Watchdogs should be good though.

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#1 inggrish
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I very much enjoy the narrative of the Mass Effect series.

The gameplay in my eyes is very mediocre in the Mass Effect games, but the story, and the way it is delivered has always kept me playing.

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#2 blamix99
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Assassins Creed 4, ohh that beautiful map

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#3 Jag85
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You forgot to include an "Other" option.

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#4  Edited By Celtic_34
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I did i can't edit it either. Also forgot Red Dead Redemption.

I think AC4 is crazy good though. The rest of these games leave something to be desired. I think the AC series in general usually does a good combination.

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#5  Edited By RageQuitter69
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I feel that GTA IV (in terms of an actual GTA game though, it was rather disappointing (still good in it's own right though) since I play games for this thing called gameplay, i'm glad GTA V fixed it's issues) has the best story out of any open world game, Red Dead Redemption is a close second but I find it much easier to immerse myself into modern and future settings rather than past setting, while on the topic of that, I find it completely impossible to immerse myself into a fantasy setting.

And also, Mass Effect is NOT open world, just because you can choose what poorly designed linear corridor you can go through doesn't make it an open world.

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#6  Edited By Jag85
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@Celtic_34 said:

I did i can't edit it either. Also forgot Red Dead Redemption.

I think AC4 is crazy good though. The rest of these games leave something to be desired. I think the AC series in general usually does a good combination.

Out of those, I'd go with Assassin's Creed as well.

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I feel that GTA IV (in terms of an actual GTA game though, it was rather disappointing (still good in it's own right though) since I play games for this thing called gameplay, i'm glad GTA V fixed it's issues) has the best story out of any open world game, Red Dead Redemption is a close second but I find it much easier to immerse myself into modern and future settings rather than past setting, while on the topic of that, I find it completely impossible to immerse myself into a fantasy setting.

And also, Mass Effect is NOT open world, just because you can choose what poorly designed linear corridor you can go through doesn't make it an open world.

Yeah, I was kind of wondering what Mass Effect is doing there. I'd probably replace it with Red Dead Redemption or Xenoblade Chronicles.

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#7  Edited By drekula2
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mass effect.... open world.... pfft.... bahahahaha!!!

also, red deads narrative was quite bad for a litany of reasons.

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#8  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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I don't get this whole open world thing. You travel a great distance to do a linear mission.

What you need is Open Ended Designs.

As for Narrative I Nominate LA Noire, Mass Effect's one is too Flawed, Assassin's Creed is too Cutscenish and the rest are too Texty.

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#9  Edited By Celtic_34
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

I don't get this whole open world thing. You travel a great distance to do a linear mission.

What you need is Open Ended Designs.

As for Narrative I Nominate LA Noire, Mass Effect's one is too Flawed, Assassin's Creed is too Cutscenish and the rest are too Texty.

I agree with you. Games don't do this though. They are marketing to the lowest form of human life lol. Heavy rain and la noire tried somehwat but were dumbed down quite a bit as far as changing the story etc....

I'd love to see an open world game that changes how you play it though and has more to do then just action like puzzle solving mixed in. Unlocking various areas etc.. That's what i mean by detective games in an open world. you could have a lot more design choices that way then these stupid mini games in gta and fetch quests....

ACIV took everything that was good about last gen and made a nice fun game to play for once. It's not without it's flaws though. Watch Dogs seems to get more creative. Still would love to see a game like LA Noire with better gameplay though.

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#10 Lulu_Lulu
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@ Celtic_34

Its extremely unlikely for a game like LA. Noire to be made again with big budget. Murdered Soul Suspect is as close as we're gona get, and thats not even Open world. Barely features any action, which is a damn good thing BTW. Last thing you want is developers shoe horning concepts that are popular instead of ones that fit the context, like LA. Noire and its open world enviroment.

These types of games deserve better.

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#11  Edited By Tqricardinho
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Was a tough call between GTA, Assassin's Creed and Mass Effect but I voted on the first.

The Elder Scrolls and Fallout are also great games as in lore-wise and atmospherical.

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#12 Jankarcop
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You just listed Mass Effect in open world game....

Seriously ...what? Thats just....that not even stretching...thats just complete wrong by even text book definition

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#13  Edited By speedfreak48t5p
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Mass Effect is NOT open world.

GTA by far. Good combination of a game that's a lot of fun to play,freedom to do what you want, a lot of content and value and intelligent storylines with excellent writing that's often funny.

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#14 lild1425
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Mass Effect isn't open world, so I went with Assassin's Creed because of AC2 and Brotherhood.

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#15  Edited By PyratRum
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Red Dead Redemption by a large margin.

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Your title doesn't fit the choices, in a way. I'd go with GTA anyway.

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Alot of GTA fans out there.says alot about Gamer's Standards these days.

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#18 deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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RDR

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#19  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

Alot of GTA fans out there.says alot about Gamer's Standards these days.

Just curious, out of those listed wich one you think its better so that we can laugh at your opinion? Cause seriously, every single one of those listed are mediocre tbh. GTA isnt very good either but out of those listed is among the better ones having only ME as competition (wich is not even an open-world game)

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Red Dead Redemption.

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@Celtic_34: Red Dead Redemption is a masterpiece

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As for GTA:

Vice City had a good story for it's time, compared to other games out there. Now, it's average-at-best.

San Andreas had a great story, that still holds up today.

GTA IV had an excellent story (that stumbled a bit trying to carry a 2nd antagonist), but still had significance

Lost and the Damned had a good story, even if it wasn't complex

Ballad of Gay Tony had a good cast of characters, but an overall weak story

GTA V had a horrible story with no coherence or consistency whatsoever

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#23  Edited By mems_1224
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Red Dead

Mass Effect isn't an open world game.

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#24  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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Just cause 2.

Ass effect was never open world.

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#25 bbkkristian
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XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

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@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

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#27 Lulu_Lulu
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None of them.

The games in the list do one or the other well, never both simultaneously, GTA on the other hand does neither. It is a technical marvel though.

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From OP: "What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best?"

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

And each area was enormous and took an hour or two to fully explore.

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@bbkkristian said:

From OP: "What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best?"

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

And each area was enormous and took an hour or two to fully explore.

Some were actually quite small, not every area was equal in size.

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@bbkkristian said:

From OP: "What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best?"

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

And each area was enormous and took an hour or two to fully explore.

It's not open world because not everything is connected you have to go through A - B and then C to get to D if you catch my drift ? I would call it open environment more like. And while it did look pretty much of it was just empty space.

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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

From OP: "What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best?"

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

And each area was enormous and took an hour or two to fully explore.

Some were actually quite small, not every area was equal in size.

Please name some areas you think were small.
I'm curious, did you actually take the time to complete your maps (if you've even played the game)? Go back to the areas previously explored and go through the LV 80+ areas?

Really, asides from the useless area of the Bionis Knee and the town Frontier Village, the smallest area is likely Tephra Cave. but are you really gonna count dungeons? lol

the only way you could come to that conclusion is if you compared each one to the Bionis Leg, which is ultimately Massive compared to all the rest. The other areas are still large and take time to complete, but the Knee itself is a good three hours just to complete the map.\

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#32 bbkkristian
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@Joedgabe said:

It's not open world because not everything is connected you have to go through A - B and then C to get to D if you catch my drift ? I would call it open environment more like.

I agree.

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#33  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@bbkkristian said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

From OP: "What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best?"

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

And each area was enormous and took an hour or two to fully explore.

Some were actually quite small, not every area was equal in size.

Please name some areas you think were small.

I'm curious, did you actually take the time to complete your maps (if you've even played the game)? Go back to the areas previously explored and go through the LV 80+ areas?

Really, asides from the useless area of the Bionis Knee and the town Frontier Village, the smallest area is likely Tephra Cave. but are you really gonna count dungeons? lol

the only way you could come to that conclusion is if you compared each one to the Bionis Leg, which is ultimately Massive compared to all the rest. The other areas are still large and take time to complete, but the Knee itself is a good three hours just to complete the map.\

I played the game, I actually think rather highly of it. I'm just saying not every area was equal in size and they are infact seperated by load screens. I'm only talking about the outside areas, I didn't include dungeons.

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#34 wolverine4262
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I'd say RDR personally.

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I'd say RDR personally.

Yeah, same here.

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#36  Edited By lamprey263
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I never really considered Mass Effect open world, more felt like the illusion of one. It's not entirely open, how you play the game allows you to choose what linear sections you want to go to.

I'd say LA Noire had the best narrative of games listed, because despite the sandbox illusion of being open there wasn't enough distraction to take one off the story quests and it pretty much kept things on track despite the map being open.

RDR though probably had the best story of all the Rockstar games.

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#37 istreakforfood
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I'm going with Elder Scrolls. There is so much history and lore from the dialogues and especially when you read in game books.

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#38  Edited By hiphops_savior
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@Joedgabe said:

@bbkkristian said:

From OP: "What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best?"

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

And each area was enormous and took an hour or two to fully explore.

It's not open world because not everything is connected you have to go through A - B and then C to get to D if you catch my drift ? I would call it open environment more like. And while it did look pretty much of it was just empty space.

Sound like Mass Effect.

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I really enjoyed Sleeping Dogs. the plot has been done before but I thought it was executed very well, especially for a video game. Many of the characters were a lot more likable than they should have been, too.

Although if we are counting Xenoblade among the proceedings (although I wouldn't) then I'll say that. game has an awesome, anime esque story. they could very easily make a quality, shortish anime series out of the game.

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#40  Edited By Celtic_34
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The reason i picked Mass Effect is because all these games are somewhat similar. They involve travelling from location to location whether it's by car, boat, fast travel, horseback or whatever. Mass EFfect just happens to be the entire universe and has more roleplaying elements. What other game do you get to walk around your entire ship? That's pretty cool. Ass Creed seems to combine a lot of the good action qualities of games this year as well as custimization. You have platforming, ships, upgrades varying missions etc.. It also has a narrative that is like some of the better games.

I just completely forgot to add Red Dead Redemption which might fit right there too, but it makes the poll somewhat interesting. I think all the fanboys would have voted for Red Dead. I can put LA Noire and Fable there which do interesting things. I can also put games like elder scrolls nad fallout which are super open world rpgs but also have a pretty strong backstory.

I thought about Sleeping Dogs but I still consider it somewhat new and a step down from some of these other games. I enjoyed it though. It was one of the better games. The same goes for games like the Witcher and Dragon Age. I think these are still too far off the beaten path. More rpg.

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#41  Edited By MeanLeanBoi
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yo gta. it bees like da story of da MeanLeanCrew.

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#42  Edited By turtlethetaffer
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@Celtic_34: The thing about Mass Effect is that there's none of the randomness that personifies an open world game. With open world games, you are given free reign to wreak havoc. In Mass Effect, you travel through fairly linear environments. It's open in the sense that you can choose the order you perform objectives, but eh actual environments are really rather linear, for the most part and excluding a few places (like Citadel).

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#43  Edited By jg4xchamp
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Red Dead Redemption. Wouldn't hold much weight in any other story telling medium, but as far as games are concerned? And since I'm guessing stuff like the original Fallout and Baldurs Gate and stuff like Planescape don't count, it's RDR if only for John Marston. The other game plots in that group are straight up atrocious sans Mass Effect, and Mass Effect is more fun than good.

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I'd say Assassin's Creed II. It's not perfect by any means, but I love the scope of it all, not to mention the setting is incredible.

And, taken as a whole, GTA IV and its episodes weave together a pretty nice multi-character story - one that's much better than GTA V's.

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@hiphops_savior said:

@Joedgabe said:

@bbkkristian said:

From OP: "What open world game do you think combines action with good story and a huge world to explain the best?"

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

@bbkkristian said:

XEEEEEEEENNOBLADE Chronicles.

I wouldn't say Xenoblade is openworld either. Each area was closed off by a loading screen.

And each area was enormous and took an hour or two to fully explore.

It's not open world because not everything is connected you have to go through A - B and then C to get to D if you catch my drift ? I would call it open environment more like. And while it did look pretty much of it was just empty space.

Sound like Mass Effect.

Does it? i've never played... but just partly because it looks like an interactive survey.

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#46 Heil68
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Mass Effect isn't open world. I would pick RDR or GTA for best narrative in an open world game.

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Part of me wants to say Batman: Arkham City.

Red Dead Redemption would be the one from your list though.

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#48  Edited By judaspete
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The first Soul Reaver

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#49  Edited By Lulu_Lulu
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Somethings wrong.

In The Title you said 'Narrative' but in the OP you said 'Story'.

Well.... Which is it ?

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#50 killatwill15
Member since 2013 • 855 Posts

i'd say la noire had the best narrative,

but I don't think it was meant to be an open world game,

its baffling how dull and terribly repetitive the game is,

the exploration and action sequences felt tacked on,

but still awesome story