Battlefield something or another - woman empowerment

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LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

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#3  Edited By Dark_sageX
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More garbage from EA, I wonder how they are gonna rip-off the suckers stupid enough to buy this game this time? pay for reloading a weapon? pay for ammo drop? pay to walk beyond a specific distance? pay for a bug fix?

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#4  Edited By KungfuKitten
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This BattleField entry is clearly going to be alternate history/a more stylized/wacky version of WW2. Bits reminded me of Borderlands. Samurai Swords, prosthetics, actionhero attitudes and biker jackets.

Which is absolutely fine. It's more interesting to me than yet another traditional WW2 FPS.

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@KungfuKitten said:

This BattleField entry is clearly going to be alternate history/a more stylized/wacky version of WW2. Bits reminded me of Borderlands. Samurai Swords, prosthetics, actionhero attitudes and biker jackets.

Which is absolutely fine. It's more interesting to me than yet another traditional WW2 FPS.

Yeah, more like Bad Company

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@Dark_sageX said:

More garbage from EA, I wonder how they are gonna rip-off the suckers stupid enough to buy this game this time? pay for reloading a weapon? pay for ammo drop? pay to walk beyond a specific distance? pay for a bug fix?

EA stated that there won't be any season passes and no micro-transaction. But of course we shall see before it releases.

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@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Same thing I was thinking.


"? B...bu...bu...but muh immersion!"

I'm looking forward to this. At least they'll be having a story mode unlike shitty BO4.

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@KungfuKitten said:

This BattleField entry is clearly going to be alternate history/a more stylized/wacky version of WW2. Bits reminded me of Borderlands. Samurai Swords, prosthetics, actionhero attitudes and biker jackets.

Which is absolutely fine. It's more interesting to me than yet another traditional WW2 FPS.

Yeah, more like Bad Company

Yes I suppose so. I didn't really think of that for some reason but I guess so.

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@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

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Battlefield has never had a good story-mod. All overly scripted shit badly attempting to be a movie.

It actually would be better if they just scrapped that shit and concentrated on MP.

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Looking at YouTube comments for the trailer was a mistake.

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Didn't see that coming.

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#13  Edited By BassMan  Online
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It is definitely silly and trying too hard. Women are not an accurate representation of the typical soldier of WWI or WWII. I don't mind having women soldiers in the game, but having them prominently on a splash screen is just trying to serve a bullshit agenda that we have been plagued by in recent years. I got respect for women, but I am not a fan of feminist and SJW bullshit.

BTW, it would be nice to see some actual gameplay instead of that scripted bullshit in the trailer.

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@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Depends if it's shoe-horned in or not.

This is shoe-horned in as a reaction to a climate.

For the sake of equality, it would still look like shit if she had a winky.

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@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Depends if they want to go for historical accuracy or not.

99.9% were men fighting

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@uninspiredcup said:
@heathen75 said:

@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Depends if it's shoe-horned in or not.

This is shoe-horned in as a reaction to a climate.

For the sake of equality, it would still look like shit if she had a winky.

Well they had Trevor Noah on stage, and he's a "progressive" person. Should say a lot. Also, that presentation was bad!

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@BassMan said:

It is definitely silly and trying too hard. Women are not an accurate representation of the typical soldier of WWI or WWII. I don't mind having women soldiers in the game, but having them prominently on a splash screen is just trying to serve a bullshit agenda that we have been plagued by in recent years. I got respect for women, but I am not a fan of feminist and SJW bullshit.

BTW, it would be nice to see some actual gameplay instead of that scripted bullshit in the trailer.

Completely share your thoughts.

Gamers don't have anything against women, otherwise tomb raider,... wouldn't sell at all.

But this forced BS that devs would probably never do if they had complete freedom is the problem.

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#18  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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Correction, Battlefield games are always better on PC.

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#19  Edited By KungfuKitten
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Hmm I get what you're all saying. I'll admit the first thought I had when the trailer appeared was: 'Why make female soldiers prominent in a WW2 setting? Why not a modern setting? Or a cool future setting?'

But judging by some other props in the trailer and the 'tude of the characters, I don't think they're going for authenticity and if that's the case then I don't really see a problem.

(I mean, it could change the vibe a little. But it's also not the first time we've had ladies in a BF game.)

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I blame Sony for making this a trend now.

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#21  Edited By uninspiredcup
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Don't have a problem with authenticity unless the gameplay is specifically aiming for it.

But the campaigns have always been poor. Bad Company 2 was about the cloest to a decent one and that still sucked.

Same recycled overly scripted 4-5 hour shit over and over, with a poor mans Call Of Duty movie.

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#22  Edited By KungfuKitten
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@uninspiredcup said:

Don't have a problem with authenticity unless the gameplay is specifically aiming for it.

But the campaigns have always been poor. Bad Company 2 was about the closest to a decent one and that still sucked.

Yes I agree with you on that one. We'd both rather see them put all the focus and effort in the multiplayer.

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@heathen75 said:

@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Uhh, girls are icky! ?

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Is it me or does the game look too bright? I mean in Battlefield 1 it had a nice gritty color and look to it that represented the setting of the game right, while this looks a little cartoonish with a a lot of bloom in it.

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@uninspiredcup said:
@heathen75 said:

@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Depends if it's shoe-horned in or not.

This is shoe-horned in as a reaction to a climate.

For the sake of equality, it would still look like shit if she had a winky.

Too many people think every decision is about politics. How many females do you think play Battlefield? Maybe EA decided they would give their female players a chance to actually play as a female.

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#26  Edited By IvanGrozny
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Looks like WW2 Eastern Front FOOCK YEAH

PS. just watched the trailer. It's not Eastern Front : ( Looks like French resistance or alternative history

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@mandzilla said:
@heathen75 said:

@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Uhh, girls are icky! ?

If you‘re batting for the other team maybe.

I personally enjoy women.

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Trailer looks like they think everyone has ADHD. Exploding and flying things overload.

I guess they think they need this shit for the game to sell? That they can't just make authentic experiences? This looks garbage to me, and why the campaign has no chance. Bad enough it will be scripted and <4 hours, gotta fill up those 4 hours with over the top set pieces tool. I'm sure the multiplayer can still be fine regardless.

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@2Chalupas said:

Trailer looks like they think everyone has ADHD. Exploding and flying things overload.

I guess they think they need this shit for the game to sell? That they can't just make authentic experiences? This looks garbage to me, and why the campaign has no chance. Bad enough it will be scripted and <4 hours, gotta fill up those 4 hours with over the top set pieces tool. I'm sure the multiplayer can still be fine regardless.

MP is what BF is all about. I haven't finished (or even tried to really) a BF campaign since Modern Combat in 2005.

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If it's WW2, I will buy it just for MP. I don't care/mind about women empowerment in video games.

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@speedfreak48t5p: lol, reading YouTube comments is never wise. Makes this place look sane

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#32  Edited By 2Chalupas
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@heathen75 said:
@2Chalupas said:

Trailer looks like they think everyone has ADHD. Exploding and flying things overload.

I guess they think they need this shit for the game to sell? That they can't just make authentic experiences? This looks garbage to me, and why the campaign has no chance. Bad enough it will be scripted and <4 hours, gotta fill up those 4 hours with over the top set pieces tool. I'm sure the multiplayer can still be fine regardless.

MP is what BF is all about. I haven't finished (or even tried to really) a BF campaign since Modern Combat in 2005.

That's true, but it would be nice to have a decent campaign - especially using their engine with destruction and such.

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"They pandered to everybody and yet everyone is disappointed."

That comment sums it up pretty succinctly.

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I think TC is one of those incels

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@knight-k said:
@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Depends if they want to go for historical accuracy or not.

99.9% were men fighting

Yes, because this game is an X chromosome away from being historically accurate.

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@2Chalupas said:

Trailer looks like they think everyone has ADHD. Exploding and flying things overload.

I guess they think they need this shit for the game to sell? That they can't just make authentic experiences? This looks garbage to me, and why the campaign has no chance. Bad enough it will be scripted and <4 hours, gotta fill up those 4 hours with over the top set pieces tool. I'm sure the multiplayer can still be fine regardless.

It's pretty much the gaming equivalent of Transformers.

A bunch of money thrown on screen, none of it interesting.

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#37  Edited By RedentSC
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It's a little sad to see so many people (unempathetic lads, in the main) banging on about how DICE are destroying the idea of WW2 by having women on the front lines.. Crying shame over its historical inaccuracies.. Yet never seem to mind about the insanely unrealistic portfolio of weapons available in games like Bf1, or tanks that moved 1000% faster than in reality, and available in vast numbers.

Its almost like their rage and anger is not born from DICE's perceived historical oversights, but rather their own sexist, horrid beliefs.

Its a game boys.. Have fun.. Don't fret.. Read a book if you want accuracy, BF hasn't been your franchise for many releases at this stage.

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I see nothing wrong with this myself. It was a pretty kickass trailer as well.

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@RedentSC said:

It's a little sad to see so many people (unempathetic lads, in the main) banging on about how DICE are destroying the idea of WW2 by having women on the front lines.. Crying shame over its historical inaccuracies.. Yet never seem to mind about the insanely unrealistic portfolio of weapons available in games like Bf1, or tanks that moved 1000% faster than in reality, and available in vast numbers.

Its almost like their rage and anger is not born from DICE's perceived historical oversights, but rather their own sexist, horrid beliefs.

Its a game boys.. Have fun.. Don't fret.. Read a book if you want accuracy, BF hasn't been your franchise for many releases at this stage.

My main character in SF is a woman.

Massive respect for them, huge.

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"BF1 iwas so immersive and historically accurate"

Yeeeea.....lol.

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@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

The anti-SJWs get just as easily triggered as SJWs, its quite sad.

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@quadknight said:
@mandzilla said:
@heathen75 said:

@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Uhh, girls are icky! ?

If you‘re batting for the other team maybe.

I personally enjoy women.

Nah I enjoy them too, that's why I bat for the other team.

Is cool to see a take on WW2 like this actually, just hope there aren't microtransactions like COD.

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Also the Ultra version on PC might be gfx king again.

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#44 uninspiredcup
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@mandzilla said:
@quadknight said:
@mandzilla said:
@heathen75 said:

@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Uhh, girls are icky! ?

If you‘re batting for the other team maybe.

I personally enjoy women.

Nah I enjoy them too, that's why I bat for the other team.

Is cool to see a take on WW2 like this actually, just hope there aren't microtransactions like COD.

There are. No loot boxes, but cosmetics and "time savers".

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@uninspiredcup said:
@mandzilla said:
@quadknight said:
@mandzilla said:
@heathen75 said:

@uninspiredcup: @uninspiredcup:

Maybe he's still in that "girls are icky" stage.

Uhh, girls are icky! ?

If you‘re batting for the other team maybe.

I personally enjoy women.

Nah I enjoy them too, that's why I bat for the other team.

Is cool to see a take on WW2 like this actually, just hope there aren't microtransactions like COD.

There are. No loot boxes, but cosmetics and "time savers".

Hmm, cosmetics are okay I guess. And BF has had time savers for quite a while now. Still sucks but at least they're not affecting gameplay yet.

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I don't care about the inclusion of women, I'm more concerned about the terrible trailer. It was just about the absolute opposite of the tone the developers used when describing the game.

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@quadknight said:

"BF1 iwas so immersive and historically accurate"

Yeeeea.....lol.

You never heard of the 101st Flamethrower Cavalry? Without them we never would have won WW1.

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#48  Edited By judaspete
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@zmanbarzel said:
@knight-k said:
@Pedro said:

LOL. The sight of a woman in videogames really gets to you guys.

Depends if they want to go for historical accuracy or not.

99.9% were men fighting

Yes, because this game is an X chromosome away from being historically accurate.

Haha! Yep. One dude single-handedly taking down 1,000 Nazis? Sure, happened all the time. Put a woman in there though, that's when I can no longer take this seriously.

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#49  Edited By uninspiredcup
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@mandzilla said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@mandzilla said:
@quadknight said:

If you‘re batting for the other team maybe.

I personally enjoy women.

Nah I enjoy them too, that's why I bat for the other team.

Is cool to see a take on WW2 like this actually, just hope there aren't microtransactions like COD.

There are. No loot boxes, but cosmetics and "time savers".

Hmm, cosmetics are okay I guess. And BF has had time savers for quite a while now. Still sucks but at least they're not affecting gameplay yet.

Cosmetics are very "who gives a shit", unless it's something like Team Fortress 2 that completely messes up the aesthetics.

I would argue by default the gameplay is effected, just as it is with mobile games. They have incentive to make convoluted grind walls.

For Honer for example, would literally take years to unlock everything.

SFV, is play or grind, and it's nigh on impossible to unlock every character.

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#50  Edited By mandzilla  Moderator
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@uninspiredcup said:
@mandzilla said:
@uninspiredcup said:
@mandzilla said:

Nah I enjoy them too, that's why I bat for the other team.

Is cool to see a take on WW2 like this actually, just hope there aren't microtransactions like COD.

There are. No loot boxes, but cosmetics and "time savers".

Hmm, cosmetics are okay I guess. And BF has had time savers for quite a while now. Still sucks but at least they're not affecting gameplay yet.

Cosmetics are very "who gives a shit", unless it's something like Team Fortress 2 that completely messes up the aesthetics.

I would argue by default the gameplay is effected, just as it is with mobile games. They have incentive to make convoluted grind walls.

For Honer for example, would literally take years to unlock everything.

SFV, is play or grind, and it's nigh on impossible to unlock every character.

I don't mind TF2's cosmetics so much, where you simply pay for the items you want. The chests that require keys and such are bs though. True it can mess with the aesthetics, but I'm sure BF5 cosmetics won't be too silly.

That's a fair point, and I can see what you mean with the grinding. I just meant that I don't want it go the way of COD WW2 where you can quite literally earn achievements for watching people open loot boxes.

Yeah seems a lot of games are given unnecessarily poorly paced player progression, in order to make more money from micro transactions. It's the biggest issue I have with a lot of third party games, exclusives are generally much better in this regard.