Battlefield 4 - Review 8.0 - KEEP IT HERE

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#101 Edited by silversix_ (26347 posts) -

Nice AA on dat $500 machine yo

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#102 Edited by GrayF0X786 (4185 posts) -

@Floppy_Jim said:

Praise Allah for this sticky. My god.

Agreed on the prasing Allah part.

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#103 Posted by LordOfPoms (1138 posts) -

The hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil attitude of some groups on this forum is startling. One looks better than the other, it's not that big a deal either.

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#105 Posted by Animal-Mother (27353 posts) -

@seanmcloughlin said:

@Animal-Mother said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

ugh still downloading since yesterday, only at 8/24 GB. hate my internet

Well don't you live in the mountains or some shit?

Not mounatins but it IS very hilly and covered in an ass load of trees :P

Must be prettier than the concrete jungle I live in.

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#106 Edited by LordOfPoms (1138 posts) -

@SNIPER4321 said:

Days are gone when BF used to be good. real BF games are BF1942 and BF2. after than all are consoized crap.

You should go read that Game Informer article.

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#108 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@SNIPER4321 said:

@LordOfPoms said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

Days are gone when BF used to be good. real BF games are BF1942 and BF2. after than all are consoized crap.

You should go read that Game Informer article.

did not they say same about BF3? but in reality it was Bad company 3...

No it wasn't

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#110 Posted by NameIess_One (1077 posts) -

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Speaking as a pc gamer primarily, if you guys can't see noticeable differences between the two versions you need to get your eyes checked asap.

There are differences, but the "winner" is defined by personal preference.

The X1 version looks sharper, but suffers from aliasing issues, while the aliasing is much less apparent in the PS4 version, but as a result, it's more blurry. No clear-cut winner here.

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#111 Edited by Wasdie (53500 posts) -

@lostrib said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

@LordOfPoms said:

@SNIPER4321 said:

Days are gone when BF used to be good. real BF games are BF1942 and BF2. after than all are consoized crap.

You should go read that Game Informer article.

did not they say same about BF3? but in reality it was Bad company 3...

No it wasn't

Don't even bother. He's clearly superior to all of us because of his clearly superior taste in game and constant bashing of everything he feels is made for "casuals". He's the true master race.

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#112 Posted by Giancar (19155 posts) -

@waltefmoney said:

Cows still trying to convince people that the extra power wasn't bullshit. What does this remind me of? Oh that's right, last gen and the PS3.

Last gen it was the other side that went ape over resolution and frame rate differences, as minimal as those were.

Now those minimal differences are on PS side. Anyways, both look good for a cross generational game.

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#113 Posted by Snugenz (13388 posts) -

Little bit of SP gameplay from the PC version, captured with Shadowplay Shadow mode (last 5 minutes).

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#114 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@NameIess_One said:

@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Speaking as a pc gamer primarily, if you guys can't see noticeable differences between the two versions you need to get your eyes checked asap.

There are differences, but the "winner" is defined by personal preference.

The X1 version looks sharper, but suffers from aliasing issues, while the aliasing is much less apparent in the PS4 version, but as a result, it's more blurry. No clear-cut winner here.

This certainly doesn't look blurry to me. The df and IGN comparisons really lack.

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Jack frags has the best coverage thus far of the game.

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#115 Posted by LanceSSJ (882 posts) -

Ambient occlusio is being added and Xbox isn't full rgb. X1will look better day one

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#116 Edited by 35cent (934 posts) -

Sucks that I have to wait like nearly a year before I can play this. It looks really good. It also looks like we're in for another generation of comparing grass blades at 500X zoom counting pixels.

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#117 Posted by Wasdie (53500 posts) -

@LanceSSJ: You can't somehow make up that loss in resolution.

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#118 Posted by LanceSSJ (882 posts) -

Wasdie no you can't but the X1 looks close to ps4 with without full rgb and AO which will be added

Also I'd the esram is being difficult then once they figure it out and get the drivers working best then it will close the gap even nmore

I'm just saying it only gets better for X1 and for launch that's rushed its better then I thought.

ps4 exclusives will destroy x1 probably

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#119 Posted by silversix_ (26347 posts) -

@35cent said:

Sucks that I have to wait like nearly a year before I can play this. It looks really good. It also looks like we're in for another generation of comparing grass blades at 500X zoom counting pixels.

why would you wait a year., you crazy like that? About comparing at 10.000x zoom... this will happen until,,,, until there's only one system which probably won't happen any time soon

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#120 Posted by Krelian-co (13274 posts) -

@Wasdie said:

@LanceSSJ: You can't somehow make up that loss in resolution.

not to mention ps4 already has better and more steady fps with ambient occlussion and better ress, when they add ambient occlussion to xbone version which is one of the most taxing effects in terms of hardware it will drop the fps like crazy.

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#121 Posted by 35cent (934 posts) -

@silversix_ said:

@35cent said:

Sucks that I have to wait like nearly a year before I can play this. It looks really good. It also looks like we're in for another generation of comparing grass blades at 500X zoom counting pixels.

why would you wait a year., you crazy like that? About comparing at 10.000x zoom... this will happen until,,,, until there's only one system which probably won't happen any time soon

I have to wait a year because I won't be able to afford a PC capable of running it or a next gen console until I finish my masters and get a job, which is nearly a year away. I suppose if I win a PS4 through that playstation memories competition then I can play the game sooner.

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#122 Posted by stereointegrity (11828 posts) -

@LanceSSJ said:

Wasdie no you can't but the X1 looks close to ps4 with without full rgb and AO which will be added

Also I'd the esram is being difficult then once they figure it out and get the drivers working best then it will close the gap even nmore

I'm just saying it only gets better for X1 and for launch that's rushed its better then I thought.

ps4 exclusives will destroy x1 probably

Show me where it is being added

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#123 Edited by Snugenz (13388 posts) -

@stereointegrity said:

@LanceSSJ said:

Wasdie no you can't but the X1 looks close to ps4 with without full rgb and AO which will be added

Also I'd the esram is being difficult then once they figure it out and get the drivers working best then it will close the gap even nmore

I'm just saying it only gets better for X1 and for launch that's rushed its better then I thought.

ps4 exclusives will destroy x1 probably

Show me where it is being added

Dice tweeted that it would be added, i don't have a link but it is legit.

Edit: Here's the link https://twitter.com/repi

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#124 Edited by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

Holy shit does this game run/look awful on the 360, I'd imagine it's similar for ps3.

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#125 Edited by danabo (2438 posts) -

@Snugenz said:

@stereointegrity said:

@LanceSSJ said:

Wasdie no you can't but the X1 looks close to ps4 with without full rgb and AO which will be added

Also I'd the esram is being difficult then once they figure it out and get the drivers working best then it will close the gap even nmore

I'm just saying it only gets better for X1 and for launch that's rushed its better then I thought.

ps4 exclusives will destroy x1 probably

Show me where it is being added

Dice tweeted that it would be added, i don't have a link but it is legit.

Johan Andersson ‏@repi

@digitalfoundry the AO on Xbox One was one of the fixes that didn't make it into the review copy but will be in day1, same tech as PS4/PC

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#126 Edited by OneLazyAsian (1708 posts) -

I'm actually surprised this thread isn't longer. Previous gens, a thread like this with DF comparisons would be like 500 posts by now. SW seems to have really mellowed out or something.

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#127 Edited by danabo (2438 posts) -

@OneLazyAsian said:

I'm actually surprised this thread isn't longer. Previous gens, a thread like this with DF comparisons would be like 500 posts by now. SW seems to have really mellowed out or something.

The fun was had earlier - http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/digital-foundry-analysis-bf4-ps4-vs-xbone-30888188/#406

That and the twenty other topics surrounding it. Amusing.

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#128 Edited by Netherscourge (16364 posts) -

After a day of scratching my head trying to figure out why the DF BF4 captures were so UGLY, I came across this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=706243

The PS4 version is MUCH better looking in these clips from the JackFrag's HDMI-out feeds.

[ https://twitter.com/jackfrags ]

And these are MULTIPLAYER grabs, which are supposedly toned down from the singleplayer.

He focused on the MP feeds though - he didn't grab any SP feeds for proper comparison...

There was no XB1 MP for him to grab to compare to. But these videos CLEARLY look better than both the XB1 and PS4 feeds shown on IGN and DF.

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#129 Posted by silversix_ (26347 posts) -

looks good for 900p but i wonder how it'd look on a 42"+ HDTV

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#130 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@Netherscourge said:

After a day of scratching my head trying to figure out why the DF BF4 captures were so UGLY, I came across this:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=706243

The PS4 version is MUCH better looking in these clips from the JackFrag's HDMI-out feeds.

And these are MULTIPLAYER grabs, which are supposedly toned down from the singleplayer.

He focused on the MP feeds though - he didn't grab any SP feeds for proper comparison...

There was no XB1 MP for him to grab to compare to. But these videos CLEARLY look better than both the XB1 and PS4 feeds shown on IGN and DF.

DF's in pretty big trouble right now, especially after leadbetter threw one of his guy under the bus for issues he should have kept an eye on himself.

That guy is such a scumbag.

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#131 Posted by OneLazyAsian (1708 posts) -

@danabo said:

@OneLazyAsian said:

I'm actually surprised this thread isn't longer. Previous gens, a thread like this with DF comparisons would be like 500 posts by now. SW seems to have really mellowed out or something.

The fun was had earlier -

http://www.gamespot.com/forums/system-wars-314159282/digital-foundry-analysis-bf4-ps4-vs-xbone-30888188/#406

That and the twenty other topics surrounding it. Amusing.

The funny thing is I think I posted in that thread. Too bad I was too early to the party then.

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#132 Edited by Gesyma (1081 posts) -

Here's more glaring PS4/Xbox1 differences showing the PS4s superiority.

There's a whole convoy of trucks missing from the Xbox 1 version of the game! Check out this video at about the 1:10ish mark:

IGN Comparison vid

Wonder what else is missing from the Xbox 1 version of the game...

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#133 Edited by stereointegrity (11828 posts) -

did anyone else catch this....digital foundry touching things up hmmmmmm

http://i.imgur.com/MS3GDy6.jpg

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#134 Edited by Netherscourge (16364 posts) -

Well there ya go folks:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395064370679382016

JackFrags used Avermedia Live Gamer Portable to capture the feeds.

He used his OWN HDMI grabber! So the DICE stuff IGN used (Elgato?) and the thing DF used were garbage!

Looks like the PS4 version has been redeemed. And Avermedia is about to make a lot of cash. lol

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#135 Posted by kuu2 (10423 posts) -

@Netherscourge said:

Well there ya go folks:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395064370679382016

JackFrags used Avermedia Live Gamer Portable to capture the feeds.

He used his OWN HDMI grabber! So the DICE stuff IGN used (Elgato?) and the thing DF used were garbage!

Looks like the PS4 version has been redeemed. And Avermedia is about to make a lot of cash. lol

Man, you guys should really let it go. Now IGN doesn't know what they are doing either. The more you protest the more desperate you look.

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#136 Posted by waltefmoney (18030 posts) -

@kuu2 said:

@Netherscourge said:

Well there ya go folks:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395064370679382016

JackFrags used Avermedia Live Gamer Portable to capture the feeds.

He used his OWN HDMI grabber! So the DICE stuff IGN used (Elgato?) and the thing DF used were garbage!

Looks like the PS4 version has been redeemed. And Avermedia is about to make a lot of cash. lol

Man, you guys should really let it go. Now IGN doesn't know what they are doing either. The more you protest the more desperate you look.

For real. First we can't trust Digital Foundry, then we can't trust IGN. Soon as cows find a comparison that fits their agenda more then we won't be able to trust this guy as well.

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#137 Edited by EnviousEyezOnMe (272 posts) -

Wow, this pic is being passed around all over FB now...forget these little forums, this is out to the masses! And here's the quote with the pic...

"Screen shot comparison for Battlefield 4 on Xbox One vs PS4.
I think a lot of people that bought into a power gap are licking their wounds today! Battlefield 4 looks legit on Xbox One!"

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#139 Posted by OneLazyAsian (1708 posts) -

@Netherscourge said:

Well there ya go folks:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395064370679382016

JackFrags used Avermedia Live Gamer Portable to capture the feeds.

He used his OWN HDMI grabber! So the DICE stuff IGN used (Elgato?) and the thing DF used were garbage!

Looks like the PS4 version has been redeemed. And Avermedia is about to make a lot of cash. lol

I don't get this. You already won the comparison battle, so why are you still arguing? How insecure are you guys when your behavior has basically become:

DF: Yeah, we might have messed up the PS4 capture but it still wins. Congrats cows.

Cows: Didn't win by enough! *Que rage and pitchforks*

This is Uncharted 3 all over again. Maybe I was lucky to miss the party.

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#140 Edited by leandrro (1644 posts) -

despite xbox having the cloud

sun still shines brighter on Xbone (no shadow under the arm)

http://cfa.gamer-network.net/2013/articles//a/1/6/2/7/9/9/2/BF4_XO_010.jpg.jpg

http://cfa.gamer-network.net/2013/articles//a/1/6/2/7/9/9/2/BF4_PS4_010.jpg.jpg

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#141 Posted by Netherscourge (16364 posts) -

Looks like the XB1 fans who thought God answered their prayers this morning just got punk'd by Digital Foundry.

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#142 Posted by ELJUDEZ (7389 posts) -

@OneLazyAsian said:

@Netherscourge said:

Well there ya go folks:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395064370679382016

JackFrags used Avermedia Live Gamer Portable to capture the feeds.

He used his OWN HDMI grabber! So the DICE stuff IGN used (Elgato?) and the thing DF used were garbage!

Looks like the PS4 version has been redeemed. And Avermedia is about to make a lot of cash. lol

I don't get this. You already won the comparison battle, so why are you still arguing? How insecure are you guys when your behavior has basically become:

DF: Yeah, we might have messed up the PS4 capture but it still wins. Congrats cows.

Cows: Didn't win by enough! *Que rage and pitchforks*

This is Uncharted 3 all over again. Maybe I was lucky to miss the party.

*High five*

I'm out.

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#143 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

Btw, and just out of pure curiosity, for anyone doubting the "dubious" results of DF/IGN or the "great" results of JackFrags in terms of footage captured, they played the exact same version. How do we know this? Well, here is a gif of him killing someone from DF in the MP (PS4 footage btw):

Just thought I'd leave it here. Got it from NeoGaf if anyone is wondering.

(Link if GS doesn't upload it: http://a.pomf.se/k6aaz.gif )

Yeah, pretty sure they all got their footage from a DICE event for the final version. That's how he could make a video with PC gameplay, but next-gen gameplay was embargoed until today

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#145 Edited by danabo (2438 posts) -

@OneLazyAsian said:

@Netherscourge said:

Well there ya go folks:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395064370679382016

JackFrags used Avermedia Live Gamer Portable to capture the feeds.

He used his OWN HDMI grabber! So the DICE stuff IGN used (Elgato?) and the thing DF used were garbage!

Looks like the PS4 version has been redeemed. And Avermedia is about to make a lot of cash. lol

I don't get this. You already won the comparison battle, so why are you still arguing? How insecure are you guys when your behavior has basically become:

DF: Yeah, we might have messed up the PS4 capture but it still wins. Congrats cows.

Cows: Didn't win by enough! *Que rage and pitchforks*

This is Uncharted 3 all over again. Maybe I was lucky to miss the party.

+1

Still, lol

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#146 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

So did anyone actually buy the current gen version?

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#147 Posted by LegatoSkyheart (29702 posts) -

This thread is the exact reason why I don't play games for graphics.

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#148 Edited by OneLazyAsian (1708 posts) -

@Desmonic said:

@OneLazyAsian said:

@Netherscourge said:

Well there ya go folks:

https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395064370679382016

JackFrags used Avermedia Live Gamer Portable to capture the feeds.

He used his OWN HDMI grabber! So the DICE stuff IGN used (Elgato?) and the thing DF used were garbage!

Looks like the PS4 version has been redeemed. And Avermedia is about to make a lot of cash. lol

I don't get this. You already won the comparison battle, so why are you still arguing? How insecure are you guys when your behavior has basically become:

DF: Yeah, we might have messed up the PS4 capture but it still wins. Congrats cows.

Cows: Didn't win by enough! *Que rage and pitchforks*

This is Uncharted 3 all over again. Maybe I was lucky to miss the party.

In case your memory isn't serving you right the problem wih UC3 was that lemmings claimed flop despite it's 9.0 score and reaching the current hype (at the time of review). Hilarity, stupidty and rage followed (from both sides really).

Gotta love SW's! :P

And my memory did serve me right because what I am getting at is the overreaction from cows to lemming bait. A simple "lulz 9, lulz flop" ended in a clusterf*** of threads about how McShea was bias, metacritic was correct, etc.

Back on topic: I need some advice. I have a really shitty PC. It's basically a Quad core with a GTX260 and 4 gigs of memory. Am I going to getting decent FPS going any higher than low settings? I'm holding off purchasing the game until I get at least a decent 30-60 FPS on med settings. Anyone with the PC version help please?

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#150 Posted by ReadingRainbow4 (18733 posts) -

@lostrib said:

So did anyone actually buy the current gen version?

I hope they didn't.