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#51 lostrib
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@Wasdie said:

New Multiplayer Launch Trailer... I'm going to fast forward it for you all to the best part...

Loading Video...

That is why BF4 is awesome.

So good. Still need to play all the maps, and experience all the levolutions.

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#52  Edited By PAL360
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@Masculus said:

So it is Battlefield 3.5?

Not at all, at least for console owners. For me it went from SubHD/30fps/24players to 900p/60fps/64players + better graphics! I couldn't have asked for more.

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#53  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@Wasdie said:

Also the differences between the PS4 version and Xbox One version are minimal. Seriously, more minimal than the differences between early PS3/360 games. You get a bit more sharper colors and texture filters due to the Xbox One's upscaling (I think it's hardware) and you get a less aliased picture and less framerate drops on the PS4. Big freaken deal.

Give it a rest.

Nope, comparing minimal differences will continue an entire generation, just like the previous one.

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@PAL360 said:

@Masculus said:

So it is Battlefield 3.5?

Not at all, at least for console owners. The game went from SubHD/30fps/24players to 900p/60fps/64players + better graphics. Isn't it good enough?

Only ever played in the PC. So I suppose not much has changed. I do like the sea battles thing.

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#55 Wasdie  Moderator
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@danabo: Not really. The differences are still minimal and you're ignoring the fact that the PS4 version is running a higher internal resolution.

Only problem with the PS4 version that I can see is that they are utilizing a software upscaler that washes out the picture just a bit. You get a smoother image but the texture detail is lost a bit

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#56  Edited By kuu2
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@Wasdie said:

Also the differences between the PS4 version and Xbox One version are minimal. Seriously, more minimal than the differences between early PS3/360 games. You get a bit more sharper colors and texture filters due to the Xbox One's upscaling (I think it's hardware) and you get a less aliased picture and less framerate drops on the PS4. Big freaken deal.

Give it a rest.

What........????? You can't see the 1.8tflop difference, and GDDR25 effects, or maybe the 50% more power in those graphics? Your eyes must be biased.

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#57 Wasdie  Moderator
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@Masculus said:

@PAL360 said:

@Masculus said:

So it is Battlefield 3.5?

Not at all, at least for console owners. The game went from SubHD/30fps/24players to 900p/60fps/64players + better graphics. Isn't it good enough?

Only ever played in the PC. So I suppose not much has changed. I do like the sea battles thing.

Plenty has changed, but they are all core refinements and additions to BF3. The levels are all far better than BF3's, there is more meaningful destruction and ways to change the map, the shooting has been refined quite a bit, the power weapons lead to some interesting mechanics, the graphics are overall upgraded, the interface is much improved, commander is back along with in-game VoiP and 5 man squads which make it much easier to play as a team, the squad perk system forces more teamwork on people, movement is better, and the whole game feels more complete.

It's not doing anything groundbreaking, but it's doing everything extremely well.

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#58  Edited By lostrib
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@Wasdie said:

@Masculus said:

@PAL360 said:

@Masculus said:

So it is Battlefield 3.5?

Not at all, at least for console owners. The game went from SubHD/30fps/24players to 900p/60fps/64players + better graphics. Isn't it good enough?

Only ever played in the PC. So I suppose not much has changed. I do like the sea battles thing.

Plenty has changed, but they are all core refinements and additions to BF3. The levels are all far better than BF3's, there is more meaningful destruction and ways to change the map, the shooting has been refined quite a bit, the power weapons lead to some interesting mechanics, the graphics are overall upgraded, the interface is much improved, commander is back along with in-game VoiP and 5 man squads which make it much easier to play as a team, the squad perk system forces more teamwork on people, movement is better, and the whole game feels more complete.

It's not doing anything groundbreaking, but it's doing everything extremely well.

Even the "New Metro" killwhore map is better. Although I'm not sure if everyone realizes that there is an outside portion to the map.

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#59  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@lostrib: Yeah I noticed that last night. I was constantly telling my team to flank. There are many more opportunities to flank. I had a lot of fun.

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#60 Animal-Mother
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WIll buy on PS4

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#61 LegatoSkyheart
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This Thread and System Wars Today.

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@Wasdie said:

@danabo: Not really. The differences are still minimal and you're ignoring the fact that the PS4 version is running a higher internal resolution.

Only problem with the PS4 version that I can see is that they are utilizing a software upscaler that washes out the picture just a bit. You get a smoother image but the texture detail is lost a bit

Well, yes.

But this:

@kuu2 said:

@Wasdie said:

Also the differences between the PS4 version and Xbox One version are minimal. Seriously, more minimal than the differences between early PS3/360 games. You get a bit more sharper colors and texture filters due to the Xbox One's upscaling (I think it's hardware) and you get a less aliased picture and less framerate drops on the PS4. Big freaken deal.

Give it a rest.

What........????? You can't see the 1.8tflop difference, and GDDR25 effects, or maybe the 50% more power in those graphics? Your eyes must be biased.

With all the misinformation that was spread, I was expecting the differences to be far more substantial. Shame on me for believing Sony, again.

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@I_can_haz said:

@danabo:

Your denial and butthurt is strong.

900p better effects and framerate >>>> 720p with jaggies and frame drops.

if that's true, frame drops are no bueno for a game that is played mostly online

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#65  Edited By Gesyma
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BATTLEFIELD COMPARISON FARCE!!! PS4 Co-op Campaign Footage vs X1 True Single player Campaign Footage

There's something I noticed in the top right of all the comparison images, gifs, videos etc. that were posted last night. In EVERY instance the PS4 is running a co-op version of the campaign whereas the Xbox One version is running single player.

Could this be the discrepancy some are noticing with the textures? What would the PS4 version look like if it was legit single player?! Why won't DF show the real 1P vs 1P comparisons!?

Evidence here... check out the top right corner it's clear that the PS4 version is running co-op:

here it appears the ps4 is running 5 player co-op and being compared to x1 single player:

.. WTF!? I could be wrong but this doesn't look good for the Xbox one if the comparisons are still favoring the PS4 version and it's not even true single player. Ouch.

(edit to say: sorry if this is off topic I made a thread but it got locked and I was told to post this here... :/)

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#66  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@lostrib said:

@I_can_haz said:

@danabo:

Your denial and butthurt is strong.

900p better effects and framerate >>>> 720p with jaggies and frame drops.

if that's true, frame drops are no bueno for a game that is played mostly online

I noticed that the single player on my PC is more demanding than multiplayer. DICE upped the effects quite a bit in a lot of scenes in the single player. I guess they didn't care as much about framerate. The upside is they look absolutely fantastic.

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#67  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@Gesyma: As I just told you in the thread I locked, there is no co-op in BF4.

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#68  Edited By LegatoSkyheart
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@Gesyma said:

BATTLEFIELD COMPARISON FARCE!!! PS4 Co-op Campaign Footage vs X1 True Single player Campaign Footage

There's something I noticed in the top right of all the comparison images, gifs, videos etc. that were posted last night. In EVERY instance the PS4 is running a co-op version of the campaign whereas the Xbox One version is running single player.

Could this be the discrepancy some are noticing with the textures? What would the PS4 version look like if it was legit single player?! Why won't DF show the real 1P vs 1P comparisons!?

Evidence here... check out the top right corner it's clear that the PS4 version is running co-op:

here it appears the ps4 is running 5 player co-op and being compared to x1 single player:

.. WTF!? I could be wrong but this doesn't look good for the Xbox one if the comparisons are still favoring the PS4 version and it's not even true single player. Ouch.

What I notice is that the Hud on the Xbox One version is much larger than the Hud on the PS4.

Why is that?

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#69  Edited By Gesyma
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@Wasdie: Oh my bad, didn't see that... what's the little icon on the top right for clarification?

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#70  Edited By deactivated-59b71619573a1
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ugh still downloading since yesterday, only at 8/24 GB. hate my internet

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@seanmcloughlin said:

ugh still downloading since yesterday, only at 8/24 GB. hate my internet

Well don't you live in the mountains or some shit?

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#72  Edited By Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

This Thread and System Wars Today.

Going to be like this for the rest of the generation.

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#73  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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@Gesyma: Number of friends you have logged into Battlelog.

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#74 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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I'll be buying the inevitable Premium Edition that comes out in a year for PC with all the DLC.

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#75  Edited By Gesyma
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@Wasdie: Got it. Thx for the clarification

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#76  Edited By Gue1
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@lostrib said:

@I_can_haz said:

@danabo:

Your denial and butthurt is strong.

900p better effects and framerate >>>> 720p with jaggies and frame drops.

if that's true, frame drops are no bueno for a game that is played mostly online

and they are pretty crazy drops. PS4 version is always ahead by 10-20 frames.

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#77  Edited By danabo
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@Gue1 said:

@lostrib said:

@I_can_haz said:

@danabo:

Your denial and butthurt is strong.

900p better effects and framerate >>>> 720p with jaggies and frame drops.

if that's true, frame drops are no bueno for a game that is played mostly online

and they are pretty crazy drops. PS4 version is always ahead by 10-20 frames.

Apart from when it's not, of course.

But keep doctoring those images!

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#79  Edited By AtariKidX
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@Wasdie said:

@danabo: Not really. The differences are still minimal and you're ignoring the fact that the PS4 version is running a higher internal resolution.

Only problem with the PS4 version that I can see is that they are utilizing a software upscaler that washes out the picture just a bit. You get a smoother image but the texture detail is lost a bit

Also the PS4 version it have a lot better FPS..........by 10-20 frames.

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@Animal-Mother said:

@seanmcloughlin said:

ugh still downloading since yesterday, only at 8/24 GB. hate my internet

Well don't you live in the mountains or some shit?

Not mounatins but it IS very hilly and covered in an ass load of trees :P

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#81  Edited By danabo
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@I_can_haz said:

@danabo: lol you're still in denial. DF even mentioned the steadier framerate of the PS4 in their analysis. They mentioned the PS4 is always ahead by 2-4 fps on average and higher by a lot more in heavy sequences like the exploding canister in Baku.

Keep on damage controlling though, it's hilarious to watch you make a fool of yourself.

@danabo said:

@Gue1 said:

@lostrib said:

@I_can_haz said:

@danabo:

Your denial and butthurt is strong.

900p better effects and framerate >>>> 720p with jaggies and frame drops.

if that's true, frame drops are no bueno for a game that is played mostly online

and they are pretty crazy drops. PS4 version is always ahead by 10-20 frames.

Apart from when it's not, of course.

But keep doctoring those images!

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@Wasdie: that is truly jaw-dropping

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#83  Edited By jhonMalcovich
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@seanmcloughlin said:

ugh still downloading since yesterday, only at 8/24 GB. hate my internet

Loading Video...

Try CheatEngine. Worked marvellously for me. Download speed went from 100 KBs to 5 MBs

Be careful with extra software they offer to install.

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This probably shows the largest difference............PS4/XBone.

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#85  Edited By NameIess_One
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@Wasdie said:

Also the differences between the PS4 version and Xbox One version are minimal. Seriously, more minimal than the differences between early PS3/360 games. You get a bit more sharper colors and texture filters due to the Xbox One's upscaling (I think it's hardware) and you get a less aliased picture and less framerate drops on the PS4. Big freaken deal.

Give it a rest.

This... seems we're in for a repeat of this gen, once again, minimal differences where the "winners" are often subjective to the viewer... if they can even manage to spot the differences.

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#86 ReadingRainbow4
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Stevo, you should add a chart in the OP detailing the differences in the ps4 and xbone versions.

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@AtariKidX said:

This probably shows the largest difference............PS4/XBone.

The XO actually looks better in that gif

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#88  Edited By AtariKidX
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@NameIess_One said:

@Wasdie said:

Also the differences between the PS4 version and Xbox One version are minimal. Seriously, more minimal than the differences between early PS3/360 games. You get a bit more sharper colors and texture filters due to the Xbox One's upscaling (I think it's hardware) and you get a less aliased picture and less framerate drops on the PS4. Big freaken deal.

Give it a rest.

This... seems we're in for a repeat of this gen, once again, minimal differences where the "winners" are often subjective to the viewer... if they can even manage to spot the differences.

Minimal differences.....??

so far from all the various sources:

-PS4 higher resolution

-PS4 more stable framerate

-PS4 better effects (textures, ambient occlusion, motion blur, ...clouds, etc)

-PS4 looks (runs?) better in MP as well. PS4 MP looks better than X1 SP according to alot of people...

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#89  Edited By NameIess_One
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@AtariKidX said:

@NameIess_One said:

@Wasdie said:

Also the differences between the PS4 version and Xbox One version are minimal. Seriously, more minimal than the differences between early PS3/360 games. You get a bit more sharper colors and texture filters due to the Xbox One's upscaling (I think it's hardware) and you get a less aliased picture and less framerate drops on the PS4. Big freaken deal.

Give it a rest.

This... seems we're in for a repeat of this gen, once again, minimal differences where the "winners" are often subjective to the viewer... if they can even manage to spot the differences.

Minimal differences.....??

so far from all the various sources:

-PS4 higher resolution

-PS4 more stable framerate

-PS4 better effects (textures, ambient occlusion, motion blur, ...clouds, etc)

-PS4 looks (runs?) better in MP as well. PS4 MP looks better than X1 SP according to alot of people...

I don't see them... hell, even going by that GIF of yours in the post above, I'd give X1 a very slight edge.

As I said, the "winner" is subjective to the viewer, both versions have a few strengths and weaknesses, but ultimately, the differences are minimal.

Fortunately, I don't have to choose... if I ever get my hands on BF4, going for the PC version, the good stuff!

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#90  Edited By AtariKidX
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@lostrib said:

@AtariKidX said:

This probably shows the largest difference............PS4/XBone.

The XO actually looks better in that gif

You need glasses......the superior version is the PS4.

-PS4 has no black crush (i.e., can actualy see detail in shadows)

-PS4 has better anti-aliasing (look at wires and tower)

-PS4 has additional/better effects (see volumetric clouds, ambient occlusion, etc.)

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#91 ReadingRainbow4
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Speaking as a pc gamer primarily, if you guys can't see noticeable differences between the two versions you need to get your eyes checked asap.

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#92 lostrib
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@AtariKidX said:

@lostrib said:

@AtariKidX said:

This probably shows the largest difference............PS4/XBone.

The XO actually looks better in that gif

You need glasses......the superior version is the PS4.

-PS4 has no black crush (i.e., can actualy see detail in shadows)

-PS4 has better anti-aliasing (look at wires and tower)

-PS4 has additional/better effects (see volumetric clouds, ambient occlusion, etc.)

what wires? The XO in that gif just looks sharper

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Cows still trying to convince people that the extra power wasn't bullshit. What does this remind me of? Oh that's right, last gen and the PS3.

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#94  Edited By Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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@ReadingRainbow4 said:

Stevo, you should add a chart in the OP detailing the differences in the ps4 and xbone versions.

On it.

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@waltefmoney said:

Cows still trying to convince people that the extra power wasn't bullshit. What does this remind me of? Oh that's right, last gen and the PS3.

Wait, then why does the X1 have a lower resolution?

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#97  Edited By ReadingRainbow4
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@waltefmoney said:

Cows still trying to convince people that the extra power wasn't bullshit. What does this remind me of? Oh that's right, last gen and the PS3.

It really does remind me of the 2006 launch.

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#98  Edited By danabo
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@waltefmoney said:

Cows still trying to convince people that the extra power wasn't bullshit. What does this remind me of? Oh that's right, last gen and the PS3.

+1

'tis pretty funny to witness.

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The last i heard, the only 64 player mode was conquest. Anyone knows if rush was optimized for 64 players in the fimal build?

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#100  Edited By Snugenz
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@LegatoSkyheart said:

What I notice is that the Hud on the Xbox One version is much larger than the Hud on the PS4.

Why is that?

Resolution, the lower it is the larger the UI is (cos less pixels).

I bit the bullet and VPN'd BF4 so i could play it before release, just did a few campaign missions so far, Ultra graphics and its one ridiculously good looking game, captured some footage with Shadowplay should be uploaded soon.