Well anybody who had a claim at the throne just got usurped by BF1. GG everyone. Until Unreal Tournament, Inner Chains or Star Citizen come out, seems this game will remain at the top.
Beta starts August 31st you mongrels.
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not a BF fan but looking good. will pick up when it will be bargain bin. MP games cant worth full price.
Does it got sp or mp only?
it has SP but will be useless that no one care about.
(GFX King Inside)
gpuking will not approve though.
I been hearing rumors he got banned.
Why? He is not different than nyadc/dynamiteflop, Kingtitty, and kbally.
I miss him. PSpot my butt.
Why? He is not different than nyadc/dynamiteflop, Kingtitty, and kbally.
I miss him. PSpot my butt.
His gimmick got old after a while. Was entertaining at first but quickly became predictable and repetitive.
That may be true, but that is not a reason to banned someone. Hell the above mention have become repetitive and predictable too.
Yup, that looks insane.
In fact I'm very impressed with how dynamic the maps and battles feel now: buildings can crumble, the terrain will leave craters, weather changes dynamically, ... Some of these features have been in previous Battlefield games, but they are things I could've only dreamt about 10 or so years.
Looks good, next month, I'm getting my MSI GTX 1070 just for Battlefield 1 and not only that, Titanfall 2 will join my FPS games this October.
I was gonna do that, but I'm sure with how well other DICE games run, my GTX970 will suffice for now.
Shame there is no BETA for Titanfall on PC though, would've loved to give that a try.
I care about SP.
Same
Even if it turns out mediocre, this'll still be a unique experience as it's a FPS set in WW1 ^^
Coolness but no crown yet as Gears 4 in 4K on PC may have something to say about grx king.
With its dated assets and ugly character models? Not a chance. 4K won't change that.
Hahaha, lemme ask you, do you like the taste of crow with a side of humble pie? I sure hope so b/c Gears 4 on X1 is gonna be sweet but on a high tier PC, Yikes. We'll see, we'll see.
not a BF fan but looking good. will pick up when it will be bargain bin. MP games cant worth full price.
Does it got sp or mp only?
it has SP but will be useless that no one care about.
Hope it gonna be better than DOOM and Deus Ex Mankind Divided :)
Hahaha, lemme ask you, do you like the taste of crow with a side of humble pie? I sure hope so b/c Gears 4 on X1 is gonna be sweet but on a high tier PC, Yikes. We'll see, we'll see.
I'll be playing it at 1440p/60fps with my set up. Still no shot at graphics king for this game. Already looks dated and higher resolution, better textures and higher quality assets won't change that. You'd need a complete overhaul for the game to even stand a chance against the likes of Battlefield 1. It's probably gonna be a great game which is all that really matters. Better than anything on PS4 save for Bloodborne anyway.
This game will be the 3rd best selling shooter of the holiday... And the 3rd best overall... Maybe 4th if you count the 3rd person shooters.
I'm signed up for the beta. I think I also get to play BF1 a week early because I'm an EA Access member.
Good graphics and all but this is not the reason I play BF games. I just hope the game is balanced and glitch free. The last thing we need is a buggy launch like we got with BF4.
I can't wait for the Beta.
Coolness but no crown yet as Gears 4 in 4K on PC may have something to say about grx king.
With its dated assets and ugly character models? Not a chance. 4K won't change that.
Hahaha, lemme ask you, do you like the taste of crow with a side of humble pie? I sure hope so b/c Gears 4 on X1 is gonna be sweet but on a high tier PC, Yikes. We'll see, we'll see.
I doubt it. BF1 one looks better than any other game out there, Gears 4 isn't gonna stand a chance against this.
The only other games I see competing with BF1 in graphics are both in Alphas right now and they are UT and Star Citizen.
Coolness but no crown yet as Gears 4 in 4K on PC may have something to say about grx king.
With its dated assets and ugly character models? Not a chance. 4K won't change that.
Hahaha, lemme ask you, do you like the taste of crow with a side of humble pie? I sure hope so b/c Gears 4 on X1 is gonna be sweet but on a high tier PC, Yikes. We'll see, we'll see.
I doubt it. BF1 one looks better than any other game out there, Gears 4 isn't gonna stand a chance against this.
The only other games I see competing with BF1 in graphics are both in Alphas right now and they are UT and Star Citizen.
They just release the specs for Gears 4 windows 10 but there offering specs looks unoptimize and that 80GB is a joke to that regards.
As far as Battlefield goes, I just hope Battlefield 1 isn't just another Hardline, even I couldn't bring myself to buy that BF game.
With its dated assets and ugly character models? Not a chance. 4K won't change that.
Hahaha, lemme ask you, do you like the taste of crow with a side of humble pie? I sure hope so b/c Gears 4 on X1 is gonna be sweet but on a high tier PC, Yikes. We'll see, we'll see.
I doubt it. BF1 one looks better than any other game out there, Gears 4 isn't gonna stand a chance against this.
The only other games I see competing with BF1 in graphics are both in Alphas right now and they are UT and Star Citizen.
They just release the specs for Gears 4 windows 10 but there offering specs looks unoptimize and that 80GB is a joke to that regards.
As far as Battlefield goes, I just hope Battlefield 1 isn't just another Hardline, even I couldn't bring myself to buy that BF game.
Yup, Gears 4 specs remind me of the unoptimized trash we got for Quantum Flop. I take anything coming from the Windows 10 Store as unoptimized garbage until proven otherwise. What I've seen of the graphics are not really impressive when placed against titans like Battlefield 1, SC, and UT.
I also hope it isn't like Hardline too. I remember playing that garbage in the beta and I knew as soon as I played it that it would be dead before 6 months. What a piece of trash, glad I didn't buy it.
This looks absolutely excellent. Can't wait.
Good graphics and all but this is not the reason I play BF games. I just hope the game is balanced and glitch free. The last thing we need is a buggy launch like we got with BF4.
I can't wait for the Beta.
DICE did a good job updating BF4 though.
This looks absolutely excellent. Can't wait.
Good graphics and all but this is not the reason I play BF games. I just hope the game is balanced and glitch free. The last thing we need is a buggy launch like we got with BF4.
I can't wait for the Beta.
DICE did a good job updating BF4 though.
Yes, they did but they can't afford the same mistake again. Now that they have everyone's attention with BF1 with its hype graphics and the fact that there's a backlash against COD they need to capitalize on it and make the series even more popular. There will be a ton of new people buying a BF game for the first time this year, DICE needs to make a great first impression with them.
Jeeze, I have been mia when it comes to media these last few weeks. I did not know gamescom was this week. Something good to look forward too.
I'm sure the single player campaign is going to be a run-of-the-mill, hackneyed adventure into the cliche abyss, but I'm excited for the multiplayer.
Also, yeah, graphics king.
Coolness but no crown yet as Gears 4 in 4K on PC may have something to say about grx king.
There's a thread with a 4k gears. It looks like garbage. lol
Good graphics and all but this is not the reason I play BF games. I just hope the game is balanced and glitch free. The last thing we need is a buggy launch like we got with BF4.
I can't wait for the Beta.
DICE did a good job updating BF4 though.
Not exactly shit they deserve credit for given you know, the game being a broken piece of shit at launch.
This looks absolutely excellent. Can't wait.
Good graphics and all but this is not the reason I play BF games. I just hope the game is balanced and glitch free. The last thing we need is a buggy launch like we got with BF4.
I can't wait for the Beta.
DICE did a good job updating BF4 though.
Yes, they did but they can't afford the same mistake again. Now that they have everyone's attention with BF1 with its hype graphics and the fact that there's a backlash against COD they need to capitalize on it and make the series even more popular. There will be a ton of new people buying a BF game for the first time this year, DICE needs to make a great first impression with them.
I just hope they don't put in any "camping" machines. Like the mortar and the UCAV. Ugh, what a disgrace. Nothing worse than being killed by a guy who is sitting in home base not actually doing anything. I saw one guy's profile with a K/D of 300/1, and he had 12,000 kills on the mortar, and then like 500 kills on a gun.
This looks absolutely excellent. Can't wait.
Good graphics and all but this is not the reason I play BF games. I just hope the game is balanced and glitch free. The last thing we need is a buggy launch like we got with BF4.
I can't wait for the Beta.
DICE did a good job updating BF4 though.
Yes, they did but they can't afford the same mistake again. Now that they have everyone's attention with BF1 with its hype graphics and the fact that there's a backlash against COD they need to capitalize on it and make the series even more popular. There will be a ton of new people buying a BF game for the first time this year, DICE needs to make a great first impression with them.
I just hope they don't put in any "camping" machines. Like the mortar and the UCAV. Ugh, what a disgrace. Nothing worse than being killed by a guy who is sitting in home base not actually doing anything. I saw one guy's profile with a K/D of 300/1, and he had 12,000 kills on the mortar, and then like 500 kills on a gun.
The series is now a pay2win model seen on mobile games, except it costs £50.
Complaining about balance of a mortar or camping is pretty irrelevant when the entire game is specifically designed to promote paying for an advantage.
This looks absolutely excellent. Can't wait.
DICE did a good job updating BF4 though.
Yes, they did but they can't afford the same mistake again. Now that they have everyone's attention with BF1 with its hype graphics and the fact that there's a backlash against COD they need to capitalize on it and make the series even more popular. There will be a ton of new people buying a BF game for the first time this year, DICE needs to make a great first impression with them.
I just hope they don't put in any "camping" machines. Like the mortar and the UCAV. Ugh, what a disgrace. Nothing worse than being killed by a guy who is sitting in home base not actually doing anything. I saw one guy's profile with a K/D of 300/1, and he had 12,000 kills on the mortar, and then like 500 kills on a gun.
The series is now a pay2win model seen on mobile games, except it costs £50.
Complaining about balance of a mortar or camping is pretty irrelevant when the entire game is specifically designed to promote paying for an advantage.
That's not true. I've gone in with a fairly fresh account and come out in top 3 often on the leaderboards, even when a Battlefield game has been out for a while.
Pay 2 win is a pretty paltry excuse when everything is so damn easy to unlock. It's not like it takes a long time to unlock better weapons.
Also, they don't offer that stuff right away. Usually pay to unlock all guns and stuff is made available a few months after release.
This looks absolutely excellent. Can't wait.
DICE did a good job updating BF4 though.
Yes, they did but they can't afford the same mistake again. Now that they have everyone's attention with BF1 with its hype graphics and the fact that there's a backlash against COD they need to capitalize on it and make the series even more popular. There will be a ton of new people buying a BF game for the first time this year, DICE needs to make a great first impression with them.
I just hope they don't put in any "camping" machines. Like the mortar and the UCAV. Ugh, what a disgrace. Nothing worse than being killed by a guy who is sitting in home base not actually doing anything. I saw one guy's profile with a K/D of 300/1, and he had 12,000 kills on the mortar, and then like 500 kills on a gun.
The series is now a pay2win model seen on mobile games, except it costs £50.
Complaining about balance of a mortar or camping is pretty irrelevant when the entire game is specifically designed to promote paying for an advantage.
That's not true. I've gone in with a fairly fresh account and come out in top 3 fairly often on the leaderboards.
Pay 2 win is a pretty paltry excuse when everything is so damn easy to unlock. It's not like it takes a long time to unlock better weapons.
But Battlefield was never about unlockathons, and even when Battlefield 2 featured them, they were half a dozen or so.
The game is now specifically designed to cram in as many weapons as possible. It's not about the experience of playing with a base skill level but the experience of 14 year old Jimmy Joe getting his next shitty unlock. with a big flashing "XP EARNED BRO!" regardless of what he or she does.
EA being EA, decided to bastardize the series with IOS style play or pay, coupled with other seedy advantages such as early access for boosts, XP boosters and all sorts of insidious nonsense.
Sure it has pretty graphics and explosions, and really flashy trailers but underneath that, at it's core, as a competitive game, it's basically non existent.
It's arguably not even much of a team game anymore as they will be more interested in personal kill death ratio, as well as the billion convoluted unlocks, rather than a balanced team oriented game.
If you enjoy it, more power to you. Just don't make out this game gives a shit about balance or fairness.
I just hope they don't put in any "camping" machines. Like the mortar and the UCAV. Ugh, what a disgrace. Nothing worse than being killed by a guy who is sitting in home base not actually doing anything. I saw one guy's profile with a K/D of 300/1, and he had 12,000 kills on the mortar, and then like 500 kills on a gun.
The series is now a pay2win model seen on mobile games, except it costs £50.
Complaining about balance of a mortar or camping is pretty irrelevant when the entire game is specifically designed to promote paying for an advantage.
That's not true. I've gone in with a fairly fresh account and come out in top 3 fairly often on the leaderboards.
Pay 2 win is a pretty paltry excuse when everything is so damn easy to unlock. It's not like it takes a long time to unlock better weapons.
But Battlefield was never about unlockathons, and even when Battlefield 2 featured them, they were half a dozen or so.
The game is now specifically designed to cram in as many weapons as possible. It's not about the experience of playing with a base skill level but the experience of 14 year old Jimmy Joe getting his next shitty unlock. with a big flashing "XP EARNED BRO!" regardless of what he or she does.
EA being EA, decided to bastardize the series with IOS style play or pay, coupled with other seedy advantages such as early access for boosts, XP boosters and all sorts of insidious nonsense.
Sure it has pretty graphics and explosions, and really flashy trailers but underneath that, at it's core, as a competitive game, it's basically non existent.
It's arguably not even much of a team game anymore as they will be more interested in personal kill death ratio, as well as the billion convoluted unlocks, rather than a balanced team oriented game.
If you enjoy it, more power to you. Just don't make out this game gives a shit about balance or fairness.
The game is pretty balanced for what it is. CoD is a crapfest in balance compared to Battlefield games, and the amount of different variations that are taken into account with vehicles and destructible environments is a giant deviation.
Honestly, there's really not many warfare based games that can claim they are as balanced as Battlefield, and that's saying quite a bit.
However, they let the competitive part of it go, after they failed with their whole e-sports thing, and they focused on fun. Sure, some guns are better than others, and actually, the whole mortar thing isn't even a big deal. You rarely get killed by them, as annoying as it is. But, the worst part of it is that those players are then camping in base instead of helping your team trying to capture objectives.
What on earth type of game are you trying to compare balance to? Counterstrike? Quake? Those are completely different in terms of actual gameplay involvement when it comes down to it, and here's the kicker, they aren't class based.
The closest games I can think of are Red Orchestra and Planetside, but neither of those games features much destruction(if at all), and they both are not superior when it comes to balance, actually. Not sure what you're trying to expect when it comes to balance for a large scale warfare game. It's already imbalanced just on principle. The more players you involve, the higher the imbalance can become due to skill.
The series is now a pay2win model seen on mobile games, except it costs £50.
Complaining about balance of a mortar or camping is pretty irrelevant when the entire game is specifically designed to promote paying for an advantage.
That's not true. I've gone in with a fairly fresh account and come out in top 3 fairly often on the leaderboards.
Pay 2 win is a pretty paltry excuse when everything is so damn easy to unlock. It's not like it takes a long time to unlock better weapons.
But Battlefield was never about unlockathons, and even when Battlefield 2 featured them, they were half a dozen or so.
The game is now specifically designed to cram in as many weapons as possible. It's not about the experience of playing with a base skill level but the experience of 14 year old Jimmy Joe getting his next shitty unlock. with a big flashing "XP EARNED BRO!" regardless of what he or she does.
EA being EA, decided to bastardize the series with IOS style play or pay, coupled with other seedy advantages such as early access for boosts, XP boosters and all sorts of insidious nonsense.
Sure it has pretty graphics and explosions, and really flashy trailers but underneath that, at it's core, as a competitive game, it's basically non existent.
It's arguably not even much of a team game anymore as they will be more interested in personal kill death ratio, as well as the billion convoluted unlocks, rather than a balanced team oriented game.
If you enjoy it, more power to you. Just don't make out this game gives a shit about balance or fairness.
The game is pretty balanced for what it is. CoD is a crapfest in balance compared to Battlefield games, and the amount of different variations that are taken into account with vehicles and destructible environments is a giant deviation.
Honestly, there's really not many warfare based games that can claim they are as balanced as Battlefield, and that's saying quite a bit.
However, they let the competitive part of it go, after they failed with their whole e-sports thing, and they focused on fun. Sure, some guns are better than others, and actually, the whole mortar thing isn't even a big deal. You rarely get killed by them, as annoying as it is. But, the worst part of it is that those players are then camping in base instead of helping your team trying to capture objectives.
What on earth type of game are you trying to compare balance to? Counterstrike? Quake? Those are completely different in terms of actual gameplay involvement when it comes down to it, and here's the kicker, they aren't class based.
The closest games I can think of are Red Orchestra and Planetside, but neither of those games features much destruction(if at all), and they both are not superior when it comes to balance, actually. Not sure what you're trying to expect when it comes to balance for a large scale warfare game. It's already imbalanced just on principle. The more players you involve, the higher the imbalance can become due to skill.
I'm not sure I get your argument here or how it changes anything said, but whatever man, my opinion will have no bearing on your enjoyment or the 8 million people buying it.
It is what it is.
The series is now a pay2win model seen on mobile games, except it costs £50.
Complaining about balance of a mortar or camping is pretty irrelevant when the entire game is specifically designed to promote paying for an advantage.
That's not true. I've gone in with a fairly fresh account and come out in top 3 fairly often on the leaderboards.
Pay 2 win is a pretty paltry excuse when everything is so damn easy to unlock. It's not like it takes a long time to unlock better weapons.
But Battlefield was never about unlockathons, and even when Battlefield 2 featured them, they were half a dozen or so.
The game is now specifically designed to cram in as many weapons as possible. It's not about the experience of playing with a base skill level but the experience of 14 year old Jimmy Joe getting his next shitty unlock. with a big flashing "XP EARNED BRO!" regardless of what he or she does.
EA being EA, decided to bastardize the series with IOS style play or pay, coupled with other seedy advantages such as early access for boosts, XP boosters and all sorts of insidious nonsense.
Sure it has pretty graphics and explosions, and really flashy trailers but underneath that, at it's core, as a competitive game, it's basically non existent.
It's arguably not even much of a team game anymore as they will be more interested in personal kill death ratio, as well as the billion convoluted unlocks, rather than a balanced team oriented game.
If you enjoy it, more power to you. Just don't make out this game gives a shit about balance or fairness.
The game is pretty balanced for what it is. CoD is a crapfest in balance compared to Battlefield games, and the amount of different variations that are taken into account with vehicles and destructible environments is a giant deviation.
Honestly, there's really not many warfare based games that can claim they are as balanced as Battlefield, and that's saying quite a bit.
However, they let the competitive part of it go, after they failed with their whole e-sports thing, and they focused on fun. Sure, some guns are better than others, and actually, the whole mortar thing isn't even a big deal. You rarely get killed by them, as annoying as it is. But, the worst part of it is that those players are then camping in base instead of helping your team trying to capture objectives.
What on earth type of game are you trying to compare balance to? Counterstrike? Quake? Those are completely different in terms of actual gameplay involvement when it comes down to it, and here's the kicker, they aren't class based.
The closest games I can think of are Red Orchestra and Planetside, but neither of those games features much destruction(if at all), and they both are not superior when it comes to balance, actually. Not sure what you're trying to expect when it comes to balance for a large scale warfare game. It's already imbalanced just on principle. The more players you involve, the higher the imbalance can become due to skill.
I'm not sure I get your argument here or how it changes anything said, but whatever man, my opinion will have no bearing on your enjoyment or the 8 million people buying it.
It is what it is.
You said it was unbalanced and I said that it's about as balanced as you're going to get for such a varied game?
That's not true. I've gone in with a fairly fresh account and come out in top 3 fairly often on the leaderboards.
Pay 2 win is a pretty paltry excuse when everything is so damn easy to unlock. It's not like it takes a long time to unlock better weapons.
But Battlefield was never about unlockathons, and even when Battlefield 2 featured them, they were half a dozen or so.
The game is now specifically designed to cram in as many weapons as possible. It's not about the experience of playing with a base skill level but the experience of 14 year old Jimmy Joe getting his next shitty unlock. with a big flashing "XP EARNED BRO!" regardless of what he or she does.
EA being EA, decided to bastardize the series with IOS style play or pay, coupled with other seedy advantages such as early access for boosts, XP boosters and all sorts of insidious nonsense.
Sure it has pretty graphics and explosions, and really flashy trailers but underneath that, at it's core, as a competitive game, it's basically non existent.
It's arguably not even much of a team game anymore as they will be more interested in personal kill death ratio, as well as the billion convoluted unlocks, rather than a balanced team oriented game.
If you enjoy it, more power to you. Just don't make out this game gives a shit about balance or fairness.
The game is pretty balanced for what it is. CoD is a crapfest in balance compared to Battlefield games, and the amount of different variations that are taken into account with vehicles and destructible environments is a giant deviation.
Honestly, there's really not many warfare based games that can claim they are as balanced as Battlefield, and that's saying quite a bit.
However, they let the competitive part of it go, after they failed with their whole e-sports thing, and they focused on fun. Sure, some guns are better than others, and actually, the whole mortar thing isn't even a big deal. You rarely get killed by them, as annoying as it is. But, the worst part of it is that those players are then camping in base instead of helping your team trying to capture objectives.
What on earth type of game are you trying to compare balance to? Counterstrike? Quake? Those are completely different in terms of actual gameplay involvement when it comes down to it, and here's the kicker, they aren't class based.
The closest games I can think of are Red Orchestra and Planetside, but neither of those games features much destruction(if at all), and they both are not superior when it comes to balance, actually. Not sure what you're trying to expect when it comes to balance for a large scale warfare game. It's already imbalanced just on principle. The more players you involve, the higher the imbalance can become due to skill.
I'm not sure I get your argument here or how it changes anything said, but whatever man, my opinion will have no bearing on your enjoyment or the 8 million people buying it.
It is what it is.
You said it was unbalanced and I said that it's about as balanced as you're going to get for such a varied game?
But that was the point. It's convoluted for the sake of having unlocks and selling microtransactions, exclusive preorder content, and early access money bags.
You say varied, I say cynical and detrimental.
But Battlefield was never about unlockathons, and even when Battlefield 2 featured them, they were half a dozen or so.
The game is now specifically designed to cram in as many weapons as possible. It's not about the experience of playing with a base skill level but the experience of 14 year old Jimmy Joe getting his next shitty unlock. with a big flashing "XP EARNED BRO!" regardless of what he or she does.
EA being EA, decided to bastardize the series with IOS style play or pay, coupled with other seedy advantages such as early access for boosts, XP boosters and all sorts of insidious nonsense.
Sure it has pretty graphics and explosions, and really flashy trailers but underneath that, at it's core, as a competitive game, it's basically non existent.
It's arguably not even much of a team game anymore as they will be more interested in personal kill death ratio, as well as the billion convoluted unlocks, rather than a balanced team oriented game.
If you enjoy it, more power to you. Just don't make out this game gives a shit about balance or fairness.
The game is pretty balanced for what it is. CoD is a crapfest in balance compared to Battlefield games, and the amount of different variations that are taken into account with vehicles and destructible environments is a giant deviation.
Honestly, there's really not many warfare based games that can claim they are as balanced as Battlefield, and that's saying quite a bit.
However, they let the competitive part of it go, after they failed with their whole e-sports thing, and they focused on fun. Sure, some guns are better than others, and actually, the whole mortar thing isn't even a big deal. You rarely get killed by them, as annoying as it is. But, the worst part of it is that those players are then camping in base instead of helping your team trying to capture objectives.
What on earth type of game are you trying to compare balance to? Counterstrike? Quake? Those are completely different in terms of actual gameplay involvement when it comes down to it, and here's the kicker, they aren't class based.
The closest games I can think of are Red Orchestra and Planetside, but neither of those games features much destruction(if at all), and they both are not superior when it comes to balance, actually. Not sure what you're trying to expect when it comes to balance for a large scale warfare game. It's already imbalanced just on principle. The more players you involve, the higher the imbalance can become due to skill.
I'm not sure I get your argument here or how it changes anything said, but whatever man, my opinion will have no bearing on your enjoyment or the 8 million people buying it.
It is what it is.
You said it was unbalanced and I said that it's about as balanced as you're going to get for such a varied game?
But that was the point. It's convoluted for the sake of having unlocks and selling microtransactions, exclusive preorder content, and early access money bags.
You say varied, I say cynical and detrimental.
Um, what? Except the unlocks don't really change the game all that much. The core is pretty balanced for what it is. And, by the way, exclusive pre-order content is simply first day unlocks. You can still unlock that stuff by just playing the game normally.
You're just complaining to complain about modern day microtransactions, which don't really help this game at all unless you are a seasoned player. Even with all of the unlocks, a shitty player is still a shitty player. Unlocks don't automatically make a person good at the game.
You are arguing a point that is simply not true. In any way, shape, or form. I've seen level 140 players with everything unlocked that absolutely suck at the game, get low scores and horrible k/d on top of it.
The game is varied because it has 64 players, destructible environments, lots of vehicles including both land, sea and air, and is a class based shooter on a massive map.
None of what you said makes it convoluted at all, especially since you can unlock everything by just playing normally? Sure, you can't access some DLC stuff, but none of that is any better than what you already can unlock. There is no magical DLC gun that is better than all of the others. They are actually quite balanced for what they are.
So, are you complaining about the DLC or the fact that you can buy to unlock all weapons? Because your points are incredibly misguided.
The game is pretty balanced for what it is. CoD is a crapfest in balance compared to Battlefield games, and the amount of different variations that are taken into account with vehicles and destructible environments is a giant deviation.
Honestly, there's really not many warfare based games that can claim they are as balanced as Battlefield, and that's saying quite a bit.
However, they let the competitive part of it go, after they failed with their whole e-sports thing, and they focused on fun. Sure, some guns are better than others, and actually, the whole mortar thing isn't even a big deal. You rarely get killed by them, as annoying as it is. But, the worst part of it is that those players are then camping in base instead of helping your team trying to capture objectives.
What on earth type of game are you trying to compare balance to? Counterstrike? Quake? Those are completely different in terms of actual gameplay involvement when it comes down to it, and here's the kicker, they aren't class based.
The closest games I can think of are Red Orchestra and Planetside, but neither of those games features much destruction(if at all), and they both are not superior when it comes to balance, actually. Not sure what you're trying to expect when it comes to balance for a large scale warfare game. It's already imbalanced just on principle. The more players you involve, the higher the imbalance can become due to skill.
I'm not sure I get your argument here or how it changes anything said, but whatever man, my opinion will have no bearing on your enjoyment or the 8 million people buying it.
It is what it is.
You said it was unbalanced and I said that it's about as balanced as you're going to get for such a varied game?
But that was the point. It's convoluted for the sake of having unlocks and selling microtransactions, exclusive preorder content, and early access money bags.
You say varied, I say cynical and detrimental.
Um, what? Except the unlocks don't really change the game all that much. The core is pretty balanced for what it is. And, by the way, exclusive pre-order content is simply first day unlocks. You can still unlock that stuff by just playing the game normally.
You're just complaining to complain about modern day microtransactions, which don't really help this game at all unless you are a seasoned player. Even with all of the unlocks, a shitty player is still a shitty player. Unlocks don't automatically make a person good at the game.
You are arguing a point that is simply not true. In any way, shape, or form. I've seen level 140 players with everything unlocked that absolutely suck at the game, get low scores and horrible k/d on top of it.
The game is varied because it has 64 players, destructible environments, lots of vehicles including both land, sea and air, and is a class based shooter on a massive map.
None of what you said makes it convoluted at all, especially since you can unlock everything by just playing normally? Sure, you can't access some DLC stuff, but none of that is any better than what you already can unlock. There is no magical DLC gun that is better than all of the others. They are actually quite balanced for what they are.
So, are you complaining about the DLC or the fact that you can buy to unlock all weapons? Because your points are incredibly misguided.
The point is relatively simple. You're trying very hard to dance around it.
Which is unfortunate.
I'm not sure I get your argument here or how it changes anything said, but whatever man, my opinion will have no bearing on your enjoyment or the 8 million people buying it.
It is what it is.
You said it was unbalanced and I said that it's about as balanced as you're going to get for such a varied game?
But that was the point. It's convoluted for the sake of having unlocks and selling microtransactions, exclusive preorder content, and early access money bags.
You say varied, I say cynical and detrimental.
Um, what? Except the unlocks don't really change the game all that much. The core is pretty balanced for what it is. And, by the way, exclusive pre-order content is simply first day unlocks. You can still unlock that stuff by just playing the game normally.
You're just complaining to complain about modern day microtransactions, which don't really help this game at all unless you are a seasoned player. Even with all of the unlocks, a shitty player is still a shitty player. Unlocks don't automatically make a person good at the game.
You are arguing a point that is simply not true. In any way, shape, or form. I've seen level 140 players with everything unlocked that absolutely suck at the game, get low scores and horrible k/d on top of it.
The game is varied because it has 64 players, destructible environments, lots of vehicles including both land, sea and air, and is a class based shooter on a massive map.
None of what you said makes it convoluted at all, especially since you can unlock everything by just playing normally? Sure, you can't access some DLC stuff, but none of that is any better than what you already can unlock. There is no magical DLC gun that is better than all of the others. They are actually quite balanced for what they are.
So, are you complaining about the DLC or the fact that you can buy to unlock all weapons? Because your points are incredibly misguided.
The point is relatively simple. You're trying very hard to dance around it.
Which is unfortunate.
Looks like you just ran out of argument. That's a shame.
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