As hardcore gamers, we should all be vehemently against exclusive games

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#101 ConanTheStoner
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Oh, I'll put down my work to do this right now, are you on?

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#102 ConanTheStoner
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Dude, that CFN ID doesn't even exist lol.

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#103 ConanTheStoner
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Ah, so you're banned again. Anyways, when you create your next account, and if you really want to throw down on some SFV, send me a PM.

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#104 Pedro  Online
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@Pedro: I only have access to the site via mobile right now, so I can't address your posts in the way I want to. But there are some points that need to be made.

1 - There are exclusive apple and android apps and games, so you cannot use them as examples.

2 - There are exclusives among PC stores like Steam, Windows and Origin. There are even exclusives between Vive and Oculus. Certain PC games have features that only work on a certain brands GPUs. What about people that buy Macs? Don't run Windows?

3 - Your Hulu and Netflix example even further proves my point. Hulu and Netflix fund shows and buy exclusives in order to appeal to consumers.

4 - Do you remember the format Wars of the past? Betamax vs VHS? Even Bluray vs HD-DVD? There were movies that were exclusive to each format. It wasn't until a "winner" was declared that we got all movies on all formats.

Without exclusive deals, some games would have never been made. And if console makers weren't trying to set their hardware apart through software, would they have funded these games?

"Entitled" gamers seem to think that because they bought a box, they should be able to play everything. Nothing in the real world works that way.

1. I can use Apple and Android. The absolute vast majority of apps and games are for both systems. Its insanely rare for any popular app to be exclusive for either system. The main reason being that porting code from one system to the next is stupid easy.

2. No that is not exclusives. ALL of the mention services are available on the PC. NO PC gamers is locked out because they don't have a specific brand of hardware. So this point is factually incorrect. Vive and Oculus started exclusivity but gamers complained and the exclusivity has been reduced and circumventing it has been made more accessible. This is mainly due to the nature of PC gaming being not hardware locked. Macs can run Windows so that tosses your last point out the window.

3. Again Hulu and Netflix are NOT locked to hardware. You can practically access any of these services on any web enabled device.

4. Formats != to Hardware locks or hardware exclusive software.

Seems like you were missing the point being presented. The issue is not exclusive services but locking software to hardware. Exclusive services and games can be still achieved without hardware barriers as with Hulu and Netflix. Thats the point. Thats the future of entertainment.

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So let me get this straight Pedro. First you complain about consumers having to buy mutliple consoles to play games but then you claim that you're going to buy the only console in the market that adds nothing to your game library (considering you already have a PC and PS4 as you mentioned).

Are you dumb?

I am sorry that you are angry that I can purchase said systems or get said systems at no cost. But my argument is that gamers purchasing multiple systems to play games IS NOT CONSUMER friendly. Your blind bias and fanboy drivel is unable to think beyond certain concepts. I don't understand that blinded dedicated fanboy point of view because its stupid. But you subscribe to such nonsense for reals. There is one thing to have fun with the system wars banter but when you are foolish enough to believe it then are too far gone.

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#106 ConanTheStoner
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@kenshi9000 said:

waterpark63

No such user name on CFN.

I don't even mind your shtick, but I figured you were really down for some games, which is a bummer. :(

Later.

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#107 GameboyTroy
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Exclusives make each platform to be more unique. All 3 big companies especially Nintendo needs them. PCs can get them too.

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#108 Dakur
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@Pedro: lol you talk about not taking SW seriously and there you go having such a meltdown that you're even making moddable offences. Stay calm son just because i showed how you owned yourself doesn't mean you need to lose your mind, I understand that you're having a mental and emotional breakdown since everyone is showing how ridiculous your argument is but still...

Anyways you just wrote a bunch of blah blah blah which said nothing about the issue, like is typical with you. Being stupid is definitely not consumer friendly but I can't help you fix it sorry, you'll have to deal with it yourself.

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#110  Edited By LordQuorthon
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Ouya 4 teh win!

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#111 SecretPolice
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@skektek said:
@SecretPolice said:

Yepperzz, MS doing us right, say it with me... Thank you based MS, for the gamers, by the gamers, buy once and play anywhere and all that jazz. :P

Are you really that dense or are you just towing the line? You are still playing titles that are exclusive to a platform.

Herpity derpity derp...; Buy Gears 4 Once, play on X1, PC win10 devices, can you do that with UC4? Didn't think so. Now, go away kid, ya bother me.... lolol :P

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#112  Edited By skektek
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@SecretPolice said:
@skektek said:
@SecretPolice said:

Yepperzz, MS doing us right, say it with me... Thank you based MS, for the gamers, by the gamers, buy once and play anywhere and all that jazz. :P

Are you really that dense or are you just towing the line? You are still playing titles that are exclusive to a platform.

Herpity derpity derp...; Buy Gears 4 Once, play on X1, PC win10 devices, can you do that with UC4? Didn't think so. Now, go away kid, ya bother me.... lolol :P

Gears 4 is an exclusive to MS systems, which is no more or less healthy than any other type of exclusivity.

If ignorance is bliss you must be a wonderfully happy person, and good for you!

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#113 pyro1245
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Wow this thread has gone down the tubes.

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#114 jg4xchamp
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@ConanTheStoner said:

As hardcore gamers

Wrong board.

I was thinking the same thing.

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#115 SecretPolice
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@skektek said:
@SecretPolice said:
@skektek said:
@SecretPolice said:

Yepperzz, MS doing us right, say it with me... Thank you based MS, for the gamers, by the gamers, buy once and play anywhere and all that jazz. :P

Are you really that dense or are you just towing the line? You are still playing titles that are exclusive to a platform.

Herpity derpity derp...; Buy Gears 4 Once, play on X1, PC win10 devices, can you do that with UC4? Didn't think so. Now, go away kid, ya bother me.... lolol :P

Gears 4 is an exclusive to MS systems, which is no more or less healthy than any other type of exclusivity.

If ignorance is bliss you must be a wonderfully happy person, and good for you!

Saweeeetness, Win10 Exclusives are the Realz baby, you all Herd it here first. Freking MS killin Sony in Exclusives these dayzzz :D

Just playin a lil so don't get....

lol :P

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#116 2Chalupas
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I only agree in the sense that "paid exclusives" are silly. Tomb Raider XB1 was one of the oddest most pointless exclusives ever, and I guess you could say that about SFV. These are games that should just have been multiplat. The only reason they werent' is that the publishers got paid off explicitly.

Nothing wrong with great 1st party games, or 2nd party games that the Sony/MS pay for, or some of the more nichey games that just choose to be exclusive to PC/PS4/XB1 for market reasons. There is no doubting it is cheaper to develop for 1 platform, but at the same time, it's probably cheaper than ever to be multi-platform.

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#117 Flyincloud1116
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@charizard1605 said:

I disagree

This^

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#118 sayyy-gaa
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OP I totally see your point. Competition in a free enterprise economy makes no sense. Let's have one company make one console. While we're at it let's all go to the dealership and only have one car to pick from. The purpose is to drive right who cares about the other options?

Let's only have one builder for houses. Who need options? two car garages and no game room for anybody!

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#119 TheEroica  Moderator
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Everyone wants to play every game on one device... But everyone is afraid of what that will mean down the road.

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#121 BenjaminBanklin  Online
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@Xplode_games: Welp, you own an Xbox, they solved that problem for you. Thanks, MS. The Windows store is still shit, but at least I can play those games on PC.

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#122 jun_aka_pekto
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Ummm. No. I happen to like PC exclusives, especially in the flight sim genre.

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#123 onesiphorus
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@jun_aka_pekto said:

Ummm. No. I happen to like PC exclusives, especially in the flight sim genre.

You are responding to a ten-month old thread.

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#124  Edited By deactivated-5f3ec00254b0d
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I agree but it's understandable why companies want to have exclusives.

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#128 thereal25
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No exclusives = no consoles = pc only.

And before someone talks about price/comfort - cheap builds with controller/tv setups can be made easily enough.

As for competition - there would still be competition - WHERE IT MATTERS - in the game department.

Different companies would make better and better games pushing existing hardware technology further and further. It'd be great! :)

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#129  Edited By tgob89
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That's stupid.

And anyone who agrees would NOT be a hard core gamer because they'd realize that the highly polished AAA exclusives that exist would have never been made without being pushed to compete against other systems...AAA exclusives.

All you would be left with are all the crappy generic multiplatform games that already currently exist on every system MINUS the AAA exclusives that seem to make people jealous on here.

It's clear there are a lot of silly non-hard core gamers posting in this thread.

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#130 Hawkeye44
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**** no

The reason why PS exclusives look out of this world today is because they can focus on one platform and maximize its potential. The graphics will take a hit if they habe to focus on the x1/pc version.

Sony invested time and money in building these studios and creating these IPs, why would they put their most valuable assets on other platforms?

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#131 Epak_
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I love exclusives.

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#132 ArchoNils2
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Can a mod please lock this 10 month old thread?

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#133  Edited By tgob89
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@thereal25 said:

No exclusives = no consoles = pc only.

indeed, and what dose the PC currently lack?

You guess it! AAA exclusive games that console have.

Now ask yourself this question:

Why doesn't PC have the kind of AAA GOTY caliber exclusives that consoles seem to pump out every year within the PC development community?

When you realize that, you'll understand why what you're suggesting is dumb.

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#134  Edited By ArchoNils2
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@tgob89 said:
@thereal25 said:

No exclusives = no consoles = pc only.

indeed, and what dose the PC currently lack?

You guess it! AAA exclusive games that console have.

Now ask yourself this question:

Why doesn't PC have the kind of AAA GOTY caliber exclusives that consoles seem to pump out every year within the PC development community?

When you realize that, you'll understand why what you're suggesting is dumb.

^ lol posting this in the same year Divinity: original Sin 2, a PC exclusive, got a 10 xD

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#136 360ru13r
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But then how else will everyone have a dick measuring contest on why their console is better?

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#137 scatteh316
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TC is nothing more then a salty lemming who's now resorted to trying to make exclusives look bad and thus making Xbone's lack them seem to not be a problem.

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@youramoron618: Nice necro, flaming, fanboying, etc... How you made the account just to defend your precious piece of plastic, a greedy corporation that cares nothing of you, and a crappy game series by telling someone to kill himself was real classy.

You'll either have a swift ban or fit right into System Wars!

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#139 TryIt
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I agree with the OP: Exclusives are idiotic marketing polys.

Soon as I hear something is being advertised as an 'exclusive' I drop intrest immediately.

ok well...that and I know its for a console

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#140  Edited By tgob89
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@ArchoNils2 said:
@tgob89 said:
@thereal25 said:

No exclusives = no consoles = pc only.

indeed, and what dose the PC currently lack?

You guess it! AAA exclusive games that console have.

Now ask yourself this question:

Why doesn't PC have the kind of AAA GOTY caliber exclusives that consoles seem to pump out every year within the PC development community?

When you realize that, you'll understand why what you're suggesting is dumb.

^ lol posting this in the same year Divinity: original Sin 2, a PC exclusive, got a 10 xD

But, that's an indie game isn't it?

The last time PC had a major blockbuster AAA caliber exclusive that could compete with AAA console exclusives for being the best game on any system was a decade ago. It was a little game called CRYSIS!

And you know what? That massively hyped and overly promoted PC exclusive still lost to a console exclusive in the GOTY awards, lol the same as the PC indie AAAA exclusive DOS2 will lose to a console exclusive this year.

Not sure what you're gloating about the 10 on PC for. Consoles get them every other year or so and it's great that PC finally gets one, like when PC finally got a real AAA exclusive in Crysis 10 years ago, but it's nothing consoles don't see on the regular.

This is the difference between PC and console in standards and quality. PC's most hyped games are unfinished beta projects for cash. The quality control for PC's *best games are honestly shit compared to AAA console exclusives.

Highly polished games like consoles have are the exception on PC not the rule; that's why there hasn't been another blockbuster AAA exclusive on PC since Crysis 10 years ago (you guys are waiting on dev hell paid beta Star Citizen to release in 2020 for your next one) and DOS2 getting a 10/10 is the first one PC managed to get.

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#141 Pedro  Online
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@tgob89 said:

That's stupid.

And anyone who agrees would NOT be a hard core gamer because they'd realize that the highly polished AAA exclusives that exist would have never been made without being pushed to compete against other systems...AAA exclusives.

All you would be left with are all the crappy generic multiplatform games that already currently exist on every system MINUS the AAA exclusives that seem to make people jealous on here.

It's clear there are a lot of silly non-hard core gamers posting in this thread.

I heard games compete with games not other hardware. **GASP**

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#142 freedom01  Moderator
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@youramoron618: Do not bump old threads

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