Around 1000 Steam games removed, something involving Russia

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#1  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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https://www.pcgamer.com/1000-games-were-just-removed-from-steam-and-we-dont-know-why/

Valve removed 1000 games from Steam because publishers were 'abusing' Steamworks

Multiple publisher catalogs have been wiped out.

Update: Shortly after our story went up, developer Alexandra Frock noted on Twitter that "a good chunk" of the removed games were linked to a single Russian publisher, Dagestan Technology, that appeared to be operating under a large number of different names. Selecting "related apps" for individual listings of banned games reveals how they're connected: Sly Pigs, for instance, is five steps removed from Running Sausage, but only two from BattleStar Mazay.

It's a bit like a Steam version of Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon: Some of the connections in the "related games" lists aren't immediately obvious, but the steps do lead from one point to the next, and Frock appears to be onto something. A cached version of the Dagestan Technology Steam Curator page lists 48 games and 4 DLCs, but the live page is now empty.

Valve didn't reveal any specifics on involved companies or their transgressions, but it did indirectly confirm that Dagestan wasn't the only publisher involved, saying that the removals were the result of bad behavior on the part of multiple publishers. "We recently discovered a handful of partners that were abusing some Steamworks tools," a rep explained. "We emailed all the affected partners."

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Something strange appears to be happening on Steam, where, as chronicled by Steam Tools, roughly 1000 games have been suddenly removed from the system. Some of the "banned" games look a little sketchy but others seem like fairly normal games (for Steam at least), and have been on the platform for months or years.

Glasswinged Ascension, for instance, has been on Steam since mid-2017, and is still listed on IndieDB, while Mind Trap has been around for about the same length of time. Electric Highways had more than 1300 very positive user reviews before it was removed (we also included it in a 2018 Free Games of the Week roundup) and Masha Rescues Grandma, a casual puzzle-adventure released in 2016 and removed a couple of hours ago, actually has a walkthrough video on YouTube with nearly 49,000 views.

None of the removed games are mainstream by any means, and there's a lot of garbage to sift through, but that's Steam in a nutshell. And given its anything goes approach to new releases, there's nothing in the list that leaps out as being especially out of line.

By my count, 982 games have been removed from the service over the past four hours. It's very odd and we're not sure why it's happening, but we've reached out to Valve for more information and we'll update when we figure it out.

Thanks, PCGamesN.

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#2 R4gn4r0k
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Is Valve a good guy for removing all these shit games?

Or is Valve a bad guy for allowing these shit games to be sold on their store in the first place?

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So the russia investigation has finally hit Steam. Any of the games linked to Trump yet? Both sly pig and running sausage sounds suspicious.

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#4  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@R4gn4r0k said:

Is Valve a good guy for removing all these shit games?

Or is Valve a bad guy for allowing these shit games to be sold on their store in the first place?

The latter. Steam still happily hosts and sells broken games, which dumbo-fanboys adamantly defend.

I imagine here, it was potentially going to get them in trouble, otherwise they'd be fine.

Valve is fantastic in many respects, but their quality control is still trash regardless of Greenlight going the way of the dinosaurs.

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@uninspiredcup: Greenlight got replaced by something far, far worse. You simply pay a fee and your game is on Steam. It can contain virusses, miss the .exe or it can be a bitcoin miner, ... Steam doesn't give a toss.

Steam just relies on people to find out themselves: if the game gets mostly negative reviews it will disappear... or rather not show up as fast for people looking to buy a game.

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#6 R4gn4r0k
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@Sushiglutton said:

So the russia investigation has finally hit Steam. Any of the games linked to Trump yet? Both sly pig and running sausage sounds suspicious.

No no no, this isn't political.

Some Russian company was able to sell 1.000 shit games on Steam before Steam took action.

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#7  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@uninspiredcup: Greenlight got replaced by something far, far worse. You simply pay a fee and your game is on Steam. It can contain virusses, miss the .exe or it can be a bitcoin miner, ... Steam doesn't give a toss.

Steam just relies on people to find out themselves: if the game gets mostly negative reviews it will disappear... or rather not show up as fast for people looking to buy a game.

That doesn't really work either. User reviews can be useful (in many cases a better indicator than critic reviews) but when it comes to basically, broken shit, shovelled Steam, specifically older titles or bad ports, as long as the core game is considered good, they tend to overlook the state of the product opting for user fixes.

Which, shouldn't be a thing, at all. If you're selling your shit, make sure it works, and works well. Plain and simple.

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Dagestan is where the UFC champ Khabib is from. It's worth noting that many Dagestanis don't identify as "Russians" and perceive Russia as a foreign occupier. So I think it's unlikely this "Dagestan Technology" is working with Putin.

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@uninspiredcup said:

That doesn't really work either. User reviews can be useful (in many cases a better indicator than critic reviews) but when it comes to basically, broken shit, shovelled Steam, specifically older titles or bad ports, as long as the core game is considered good, they tend to overlook the state of the product opting for user fixes.

Which, shouldn't be a thing, at all. If you're selling your shit, make sure it works, and works well. Plain and simple.

I remember some years ago that Jim Sterling (who brough up a lot of these points) and some other critics of Steam got invited over to Valve to talk about improving the store.

Nothing ever changed because Valve did nothing with it. Probably costed them too much effort or money.

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I'm surprised people didn't blame the epic store.

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Well, Valve has no problem selling shit quality titles. Wonder what was wrong with these games, interested in knowing. I mean, we heard about one game a while back that was using the user PCs for crypto-mining so who knows what kind of insidious shit this company was up to.

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@R4gn4r0k said:

Is Valve a good guy for removing all these shit games?

Or is Valve a bad guy for allowing these shit games to be sold on their store in the first place?

If you go to a grocery and they sell delicious apples in the same section as human feces, would you consider that a bad grocery?

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Wonder if the games sent your info back to the publisher to use for sinister stuff.

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Valve sucks.

Steam sucks.

Glad that there is less garbage games. They should delete the other 39,900 terrible games on their too

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Wonder if the games sent your info back to the publisher to use for sinister stuff.

Wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. Most online games I've encountered them they've almost unanimously, without fail been cheating in some form.

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Not saying all Russians are bad, just that if one pops up in in online games, i'll refuse to play them.

Rocky 4 was accurate.

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Russia if you're listening bring back Tatu.

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@Vaasman: I wouldn't go to that store anymore, yeah.

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Oh shut up. Dagestan is a hardcore Muslim republic inside Russia. They are good MMA fighters there, the current UFC champ Khabib Nurmagamedov is from there. You do not judge the whole country based on one province. Dagestan along with Chechnya are previliged republics that enjoy a lot of autonomy and we Russians do not get involved into their affairs. They are extremely militant, so we Russians are afraid of another Chechen-like war. So we just throw them a bag of money every year to bail out their economy, and as long as they do not fraternize with the rest of Muslim world, especially Saudi Arabia and ISIS, we are happy about it. What happens in Dagestan stays in Dagestan. If they want to scam Steam players, so be it. Trust me, smile and do not stir that bees nest. Russia has a long term program in the works to de-radicalize Dagestan youth and it is actually working. So far, their obsession with MMA works as a charm, but it will take some 50 years to remove their medievil traditions and religious fanaticism. Trust we do not control what happens in Dagestan, we just pay them enough to keep them relatively happy and protect EU from meeting these high testarone religious lads in less pleasant head-cutting circumstances.

If you want to know more about Russia from an unbiased perspective, I really recoomend bald and bankrupt youtube channe. The author of the channel is a funny bald brit that blogs his travels around remote Russian provinces and villages. You will get more info about life in Russia from his channel than from so called couch keyboard experts of the WP, NY Times, CNN and Fox.

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@warmblur said:

Russia if you're listening bring back Tatu.

Sorry to break it to you, but Tatu is fake. It was always about money. Now they are happily married with kids and homophobic lol

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Steam is full of trash. They need to curate there shop a lot more. Because atm it just feels like having to scroll through yards of diarrhea to get to a good game.

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#21 warmblur
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@ivangrozny said:
@warmblur said:

Russia if you're listening bring back Tatu.

Sorry to break it to you, but Tatu is fake. It was always about money. Now they are happily married with kids and homophobic lol

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I knew they where fake lol but I didn't know about the homophobic damn son lol.

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#23 Gatygun
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The fact that nobody even notices it. Already says enough of the average quality title on steam.