@Micropixel said:
@waahahah said:
Yah they should probably upgrade their call centers to have caller ID. But something tells me it wasn't that simple... if you make a call in California to 911 you'll get a local emergency dispatch. He would have to circumvent that to get a specific dispatch center. This wouldn't be a normal thing dispatchers have to check for.
^ That could be true, but there are currently no details about how 911 dispatch vetted the call.
Right... so we can't really make that determination.. what they had available to them probably couldn't verify that information... and its not like a large percentage of calls are false.. so why would there be any doubt?
Thats not evidence that nothing has happened. Some communities don't call the cops so they don't have a problem with over reporting. Or that many people might not recognize a single shot depending on the weapon.
^ Actually, in this case, it WAS evidence that nothing had happened and there was no situation. At least not until SWAT showed up on a bogus call.
Actually no... that's evidence that it wasn't widely reported which... since the hoaxer didn't say what kind of kind I don't think... a 22 fired in doors once might not be cause for concern... and maybe his immediate neighbors weren't home.. or had a loud tv on, or didn't care, or didn't know what the sound was. We know now where that evidence fits in the context of... hindsight.
And? There was also reports that the man was armed and threatening the lives of 2 people. This wouldn't necessarily be criminal or incompetence given the extreme circumstances the cops believed as they started securing the area.
^ And those reports turned out to be wrong, didn't they?
The power of hindsight!
If you can put some training on the table to be able to recognize real threats over the phone be my guest.
^ You don't need me to draw up a plan for you. There are plenty of resources currently available to change, upgrade and even train Officers for better handling incidents like these. The only reason it hasn't happened yet is because until today, no one has ever been killed in a Swatting Prank. But now that that's changed, now that we have liability coming down on the department that will more than likely result in lawsuits, you will start to see changes made towards better vetting of information, identification and other procedures to properly handle this kind of situation to protect innocent lives.
There isn't though, if you don't know its a prank call then you have to take it seriously... the one thing they can do is flag calls that aren't local. But the swatter is a known 'hacker' based on one of the videos posted.. so it could be pretty easy to trick. Like I can sign up for a temporary google phone number based in Kansas...
And its not like this is something that is happening on a mass scale. We know because the news generally circulates in gaming communities... but I can't imagine that this is a high priority for them considering that even IF its a fake report.. they still have to treat it like its real until they can determine its fake because the alternatively they would be accused of not doing their jobs if they got a report that they deemed fake.
So what are you proposing to fix the problem with the dispatch system you don't know about? Or determining if someone is lying over the phone. If they had that tech they could just start calling everyone and asking them if they are criminals or plan to commit a crime... no need for hindsight!
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
^ So is education.
You can't educate people on an ongoing situation if you don't know all the details or were purposefully mislead... this is a stupid comment. That's why hindsight is more important.
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