Argument Over a Call of Duty Leads to a Deadly Swatting Incident

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#1 loco145
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An argument between two competitive Call of Duty players has lead to a man being killed by police in Kansas after authorities were incorrectly informed he was holding someone hostage.

It is being reported across the competitive CoD community that a $2 wager match on the evening of Thursday December 28th descended into two team mates arguing with each other after losing the match, and threatening each other to be Swatted.

The CoD players reportedly got into an argument over a small money loss on UMG’s wager platform online (view match) and threatened to swat each other, with one of the players sending the other incorrect details of an address nearby to a known swatter, who was reportedly responsible for the CWL Dallas bomb hoax evacuations.

A local news website in Kansas has reported that the Wichita police were responding to a homicide and hostage situation, and when a 28 year old man answered the door, the officer in attendance discharged his weapon. The man was taken to hospital but later pronounced dead.

https://www.dexerto.com/news/argument-call-duty-wager-match-leads-deadly-swatting-incident-false-address-posted/41526

Should Call of Duty be banned now?

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#2 senses_fail_06
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Don't **** with my scorestreaks.

Just kidding. Also, he should be charged with murder.

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#3  Edited By Sam3231
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Losers.

(Literally)

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#4 senses_fail_06
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@Sam3231 said:

Losers.

Actually, one was a winner.

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#5 nishanth12
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Wow. and yup cod should be banned. Lets ban EA too while we're at it :)

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#6 kingtito
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Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

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#7 appariti0n
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This story has one glaring contradiction though.

competitive Call of Duty players

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#8 Sam3231
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@senses_fail_06 said:
@Sam3231 said:

Losers.

Actually, one was a winner.

Well the other team were the winners. It says these two were teammates.

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#9  Edited By KungfuKitten
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>__> Can you imagine a player Swatting other players who played a board game together?

'You shouldn't have entered my city in Monopoly without my consent mtf. Where's my money! If you don't pay up now, I'll send someone to potentially kill you who isn't in the business of killing innocent people but who would normally risk their life to save our asses if shit hits the fan, because I'll lie to them.'

I mean how far removed from reality are these people?! >__>

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@kingtito said:

Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

Yeah, the cops were in the wrong here, just as much as the swatter.

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#11 DarkRikuShadow
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This happend not to far away from my brothers house which is crazy!

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#12  Edited By KOD
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@kingtito said:

Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

Because police in America are the worst.

A couple years ago a cop shot a little kid when he answered the door with a white wii remote in his hand. The pig said she thought it was a gun.

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#13 KOD
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@senses_fail_06 said:

Just kidding. Also, he should be charged with murder.

They both need to be. The guy who called in the report and the cop for being so irresponsible that he shot before doing his job.

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This is a very terrible thing that happened. What were they thinking?

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Swatting has got to be one of the worst things thought up in modern times.

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idk what this has to do with banning COD

but hopefully they throw the book at this kid

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"police were responding to a homicide and hostage situation"

And yet this guy opens the door like he was just spending hours behind a TV screen gaming and he has this look on his face like he doesn't know what the hell is going on.

Yeah, if I were a cop in that situation I'd fire my gun too.

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#18 Shewgenja
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@kingtito: I mean, we are talking about police in America.

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#19 kingtito
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@Shewgenja said:

@kingtito: I mean, we are talking about police in America.

Yeah seriously........trigger happy cops just waiting to use their guns on someone knowing there will no consequences.

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#20 superbuuman
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Harsher penalty for swatting 10 years in jail..its crazy to hear this is still going on especially in US. :P

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#21 loco145
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@drlostrib: Call of Duty is corrupting todays youth.

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Reason #567,876,678,987 that online gaming sucks.

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While the incident is tragic, I do not see how this is even relevant to System Wars.

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#24  Edited By Diddies
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@kod said:
@kingtito said:

Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

Because police in America are the worst.

A couple years ago a cop shot a little kid when he answered the door with a white wii remote in his hand. The pig said she thought it was a gun.

Who really knows what he had. The police say he had a gun and his family say it was a Wii remote. Do not be stupid about topics you have never had any experience in.

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@onesiphorus said:

While the incident is tragic, I do not see how this is even relevant to System Wars.

TC hates the popularity of COD.

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@onesiphorus said:

While the incident is tragic, I do not see how this is even relevant to System Wars.

^

Poorly informed article as well. "Guy opens door, get shot" Yea ok. :D

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So tragic and over a stupid argument about a fricking game of all things. What a pair of morons.

What will happen next is unclear, however with an innocent man gunned down because of a fake threat, the police are expected to investigate and prosecute those involved.

I assume that will include the Police Officer who discharged their weapon and killed an innocent man in cold blood?

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the swatter needs to go to jail for murder.

do kansas cops have cams?

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#29 kingtito
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@Diddies said:
@kod said:
@kingtito said:

Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

Because police in America are the worst.

A couple years ago a cop shot a little kid when he answered the door with a white wii remote in his hand. The pig said she thought it was a gun.

Who really knows what he had. The police say he had a gun and his family say it was a Wii remote. Do not be stupid about topics you have never had any experience in.

What we do know is it was a fake call for swat to go out since there wasn't a murder or kidnapping situation. So what's more plausible that he had a Wii mote controller or a gun? There is no way the cops saw a gun. This seems to be another case of trigger happy cops.

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@kingtito said:
@Diddies said:
@kod said:
@kingtito said:

Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

Because police in America are the worst.

A couple years ago a cop shot a little kid when he answered the door with a white wii remote in his hand. The pig said she thought it was a gun.

Who really knows what he had. The police say he had a gun and his family say it was a Wii remote. Do not be stupid about topics you have never had any experience in.

What we do know is it was a fake call for swat to go out since there wasn't a murder or kidnapping situation. So what's more plausible that he had a Wii mote controller or a gun? There is no way the cops saw a gun. This seems to be another case of trigger happy cops.

Please apply your critical thinking skills. No one gets shot for answering a door. There is little to zero actual detailed information yet all you asshats are jumping to conclusions.

Everything that is wrong in America begins with you being uninformed ass hats not thinking. This is why someone is always guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Cause the public are fucking morons.

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@dxmcat said:
@kingtito said:
@Diddies said:
@kod said:
@kingtito said:

Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

Because police in America are the worst.

A couple years ago a cop shot a little kid when he answered the door with a white wii remote in his hand. The pig said she thought it was a gun.

Who really knows what he had. The police say he had a gun and his family say it was a Wii remote. Do not be stupid about topics you have never had any experience in.

What we do know is it was a fake call for swat to go out since there wasn't a murder or kidnapping situation. So what's more plausible that he had a Wii mote controller or a gun? There is no way the cops saw a gun. This seems to be another case of trigger happy cops.

Please apply your critical thinking skills. No one gets shot for answering a door. There is little to zero actual detailed information yet all you asshats are jumping to conclusions.

Everything that is wrong in America begins with you being uninformed ass hats not thinking. This is why someone is always guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Cause the public are fucking morons.

So you know the entire story? I'm going by what's reported here. What research have YOU done. This entire thread is speculation on what happen. The only asshat here seems to be you since you're taking this personal like the cops were your friends. Go take your tears somewhere else son. No one cares what you think or say

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He must have answered the door with a huge knife in his hand, cos he was busy carving up the Christmas turkey.

Cop saw knife, and continues to pop a cap in his ass.

No joke, you can't make this stuff up, it's so comical it's disturbing that people really are that stupid.

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Call Of Duty should be banned imo.

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#35  Edited By Gatygun
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It's not there fault cop shoots this guy. cops fault. So no murder charges are not in place for these guys. However the cop should be charged for murder tho. zero reason to shoot somebody ever dead.

However they should both be charged for whatever stands for swatting other people.

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#36  Edited By commander
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@kingtito said:
@dxmcat said:
@kingtito said:
@Diddies said:

Who really knows what he had. The police say he had a gun and his family say it was a Wii remote. Do not be stupid about topics you have never had any experience in.

What we do know is it was a fake call for swat to go out since there wasn't a murder or kidnapping situation. So what's more plausible that he had a Wii mote controller or a gun? There is no way the cops saw a gun. This seems to be another case of trigger happy cops.

Please apply your critical thinking skills. No one gets shot for answering a door. There is little to zero actual detailed information yet all you asshats are jumping to conclusions.

Everything that is wrong in America begins with you being uninformed ass hats not thinking. This is why someone is always guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Cause the public are fucking morons.

So you know the entire story? I'm going by what's reported here. What research have YOU done. This entire thread is speculation on what happen. The only asshat here seems to be you since you're taking this personal like the cops were your friends. Go take your tears somewhere else son. No one cares what you think or say

I listened to the interview with the swatter on youtube, I listened to the 911 call, I watched the bodycam footage where the innocent father got killed.

With the cop is hard to know if he's a fault or not, there's not enough info on that. He could have felt threatened by the man. But the man probably felt threatened as well. One thing is for sure, cops should know this can be hoax, especially in this day and age but that doesn't mean he needs to take responsibility for that.

The swatter needs to take responsibility for that. He doesn't sound like the brightest of the bunch but he sure was bright enough to fool the 911 dispatcher, and he's over 18.

Still in his defense, he shouldn't be able to kill somoeone with a phonecall, so then we get back to the cop, but the cop gets his information for the 911 dispatcher, in an emergency situation there isn't much room for error, not to mention time to discuss possible hoaxes, especially if it's made this believable.

and that brings us back to the swatter. He might have a better defense if he wasn't able to mask the phonecall and made all those systems believe there was a killer at large there, threatening innocent lives. The unabomber didn't bring the packages himself to the victims either.

The cop should be investigated but this swatting thing should be taken way more seriously. Imagine you're in those swat teams being confronted with life and death situations, you'd be trigger happy as well when confronted with a killer.

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#38 Juub1990
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@dxmcat: He’s right though. The call was confirmed to be a hoax so what are the odds the kid was holding a gun especially when his family said he was holding a Wiimote?

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@Gatygun said:

It's not there fault cop shoots this guy. cops fault. So no murder charges are not in place for these guys. However the cop should be charged for murder tho. zero reason to shoot somebody ever dead.

However they should both be charged for whatever stands for swatting other people.

Really? I mean one made the call to put the officer at this guys front door, they are just as responsible as the shooter imo.

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@Juub1990 said:

@dxmcat: He’s right though. The call was confirmed to be a hoax so what are the odds the kid was holding a gun especially when his family said he was holding a Wiimote?

Im not even talking about that, im talking about the OP. Doubt the guy was playing COD on a wii.

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@senses_fail_06: definitely agree. Swatting isn’t cool and that guy that called the police should see life in prison.

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@Diddies said:
@kod said:
@kingtito said:

Why would a police officer fire his weapon without 1st confirming the report? Something doesn't sound right

Because police in America are the worst.

A couple years ago a cop shot a little kid when he answered the door with a white wii remote in his hand. The pig said she thought it was a gun.

Who really knows what he had. The police say he had a gun and his family say it was a Wii remote. Do not be stupid about topics you have never had any experience in.

No, the excuse is that he had a bb gun in his hand when he opened the door, of course no one but the people who don't want to be responsible for murdering a child are saying this. but hey, even if we pretend it was a bb gun or hell, real gun, its not illegal to answer your door holding a gun. But we all know it was not a gun.

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#43  Edited By EG101
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@Gatygun said:

It's not there fault cop shoots this guy. cops fault. So no murder charges are not in place for these guys. However the cop should be charged for murder tho. zero reason to shoot somebody ever dead.

However they should both be charged for whatever stands for swatting other people.

@Gatygun said:

It's not there fault cop shoots this guy. cops fault. So no murder charges are not in place for these guys. However the cop should be charged for murder tho. zero reason to shoot somebody ever dead.

However they should both be charged for whatever stands for swatting other people.

This^^^

The Officer should be charged with Murder.

The Swatters should be charged with the Swatting charges. They should both be Perma banned from using on line Gaming Services plus any jail time required by law for pranking law enforcement.

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#44  Edited By kingtito
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@dxmcat said:
@kingtito said:
@dxmcat said:
@kingtito said:
@Diddies said:

Who really knows what he had. The police say he had a gun and his family say it was a Wii remote. Do not be stupid about topics you have never had any experience in.

What we do know is it was a fake call for swat to go out since there wasn't a murder or kidnapping situation. So what's more plausible that he had a Wii mote controller or a gun? There is no way the cops saw a gun. This seems to be another case of trigger happy cops.

Please apply your critical thinking skills. No one gets shot for answering a door. There is little to zero actual detailed information yet all you asshats are jumping to conclusions.

Everything that is wrong in America begins with you being uninformed ass hats not thinking. This is why someone is always guilty until proven innocent in the court of public opinion. Cause the public are fucking morons.

So you know the entire story? I'm going by what's reported here. What research have YOU done. This entire thread is speculation on what happen. The only asshat here seems to be you since you're taking this personal like the cops were your friends. Go take your tears somewhere else son. No one cares what you think or say

Get a clue dipshit. You were not there, nor was I. All you have to go off of is the info that is spoonfed to you. Put your thinking cap on. My post said nothing about taking either side. Its obvious that there is extremely little detailed information. You obviously have an agenda since you tried to call me out like the cops are my friends, I did not take sides. I said the information was extremely limited and everyone is jumping to conclusions, just like you did with my post.

Thx.

I'm not the one crying about people offering their opinions on what happened. What we know is the call was a hoax. Going by that alone we could assume the guy WASN'T carrying a gun when he opened the door unless you think that he just happen to be showing off or cleaning one at that exact time. What we also know is cops have and do kill people by accident or because they're scared. That's a fact.

Perhaps you shouldn't take this threads so serious when someone offers an opinion because I don't recall anyone saying anything about it being a fact. Tissues are incoming

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#45  Edited By waahahah
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@EG101 said:
@Gatygun said:

It's not there fault cop shoots this guy. cops fault. So no murder charges are not in place for these guys. However the cop should be charged for murder tho. zero reason to shoot somebody ever dead.

However they should both be charged for whatever stands for swatting other people.

This^^^

The Officer should be charged with Murder.

The Swatters should be charged with the Swatting charges. They should both be Parma banned from using on line Gaming Services plus any jail time required by law for pranking law enforcement.

Cops work in the realm of probability and they have to move fast, especially a swat team. The reason someone died is not the cops fault, they entered a situation that was misreported and expected someone's life to be in danger as well as a potential threat to their own life. When the person came to the door didn't know the situation, and the cop was expecting a dangerous situation... Swatters should be charged with negligent homicide. The cops readiness and judgment depends on accurate reporting of a crime.

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#46 waahahah
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@kod said:

No, the excuse is that he had a bb gun in his hand when he opened the door, of course no one but the people who don't want to be responsible for murdering a child are saying this. but hey, even if we pretend it was a bb gun or hell, real gun, its not illegal to answer your door holding a gun. But we all know it was not a gun.

Brandishing a weapon is potentially illegal...

@kingtito said:

I'm not the one crying about people offering their opinions on what happened. What we know is the call was a hoax. Going by that alone we could assume the guy WASN'T carrying a gun when he opened the door unless you think that he just happen to be showing off or cleaning one at that exact time. What we also know is cops have and do kill people by accident or because they're scared. That's a fact.

Perhaps you shouldn't take this threads so serious when someone offers an opinion because I don't recall anyone saying anything about it being a fact. Tissues are incoming

hindsight doesn't quite work for cops. So assuming anything is meaningless about the situation. What matters is if the person is carrying something... is how easily identifiable it was or whether or not it was obscured...

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I'm so glad I have no desire to play online anymore. So many whiny bitches.

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#48  Edited By KOD
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@waahahah said:
@kod said:

No, the excuse is that he had a bb gun in his hand when he opened the door, of course no one but the people who don't want to be responsible for murdering a child are saying this. but hey, even if we pretend it was a bb gun or hell, real gun, its not illegal to answer your door holding a gun. But we all know it was not a gun.

Brandishing a weapon is potentially illegal...

BB gun, in your own house, is not. Hell, it could have been a real gun and no law had been broken or no reason for the person to be shot.

Of course again, we all know this is was a wii controller he held.

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I'm curious how it is that the player who swatted the other isn't in jail already for their past crimes.