Anyone else find Metal Gear's story to be vastly overrated(Spoilers)?

I played MGS 1+2 and read up on MGS 3 before starting MGS4.

I find that the story is vastly overrated and needlessly convoluted. It seems to me like Kojima just layered on so many plot twists that the story ended up being ridiculous in MGS4. Another thing I couldn't stand is those 15 minute long segments explaining technologies like nanomachines. Seriously that was painful as hell to watch WTF do I need to sit through that for? Kojima desperately needs an editor, it felt like useless rambling.

And the plot twists are just atrocious. While watching cutscenes I would just stop and just laugh at how ridiculous the twists kept getting. It seems like every character you think died is actually alive or is being deceived into working for someone else or is actually someone else or is actually knowingly working for someone else.

The ending was a huge letdown. I can see why they kept Snake from killing himself to try and humanize him but it just felt wrong. It felt like Kojima just couldn't handle killing off his favorite character and that seemed weak. And WTF at Big Boss being alive. I seriously LOL'd when he appeared. The little homo love session between Snake and Otacon and the wedding at the end made me cringe.

Having said that I think that the reason MGS is so loved is because of the really unique and cool characters. Especially the bosses. There's no many games where I remember the bosses I beat years later but MGS2 is one of them.

In before fanboys

In before MGS4 10 /thread

"Anyone else find Metal Gear's story to be vastly overrated?"

If you have played them all, no.

These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.azad_champ

Didn't you know? All top-ranking games are overrated... :(

These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.azad_champ

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

I think it's obvious a lot of the stuff we saw wasn't planned in advance, but that Kojima did the best he could. Zero founding the Patriots was.... odd. But it's better than the patriots being ghosts who died one hundred years ago, like MGS2 had us thinking. On the whole, I liked it. But yeah. Big Boss being patched back together yet again, just to die a very short while later, seemed rather silly. But they couldn't end it without the guy who started it all.CronoSquall

Yeah the patriot founders in mgs 4 and 2 had me thinking "did kojima really plan for that plot twist or did he just change his mind". big boss was just silly

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.mephisto_11

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

So he thinks that MGS story is overrated. This thread gets flooded with hundreds of MGS fans claiming the opposite. What a discussion!

Yup, it's got some touching moments, especially in MGS4, but overall, it's a tad too silly for my tastes.BioShockOwnz

I'm glad you stayed away from using the term "overrated". I can see why many people like it. But, like you, I found it a bit too anime for me. It lacked a level of subtlety suspension of disbelief that I associate with great stories.

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[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.azad_champ

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

So he thinks that MGS story is overrated. This thread gets flooded with hundreds of MGS fans claiming the opposite. What a discussion!

and the point of message boards and system wars is what?

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Yup, it's got some touching moments, especially in MGS4, but overall, it's a tad too silly for my tastes.VoodooHak

I'm glad you stayed away from using the term "overrated". I can see why many people like it. But, like you, I found it a bit too wacky for me.

Voodoo Vince was an awesome game.

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[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.azad_champ

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

So he thinks that MGS story is overrated. This thread gets flooded with hundreds of MGS fans claiming the opposite. What a discussion!

the story blew my mind ,literally, and that's why I'm writing in system wars now with all you other morons.

I kid!

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[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.blue_hazy_basic

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

So he thinks that MGS story is overrated. This thread gets flooded with hundreds of MGS fans claiming the opposite. What a discussion!

we should close 90% of the threads in system wars then

MGS's story is like listening to some crazy cold war veterans conspiracy theories about the "military industrial complex"

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[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.mephisto_11

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

So he thinks that MGS story is overrated. This thread gets flooded with hundreds of MGS fans claiming the opposite. What a discussion!

and the point of message boards and system wars is what?

:lol:

The point of this message boards IS System Wars.

So what does MGS4 being overrated have to do with System Wars? I think you're in the wrong forum section TC; try posting this in the Playstation 3 forum instead.

[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"][QUOTE="azad_champ"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.mephisto_11

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

So he thinks that MGS story is overrated. This thread gets flooded with hundreds of MGS fans claiming the opposite. What a discussion!

we should close 90% of the threads in system wars then

Do yourself a favor and go to the very last page of System Wars forum...

There you will find your answer.

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[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.Bazooka_4ME

threads that have opinions you dont agree with shouldnt be banned. posts like yours that offer no rebuttal or discussion should be banned.

So he thinks that MGS story is overrated. This thread gets flooded with hundreds of MGS fans claiming the opposite. What a discussion!

and the point of message boards and system wars is what?

:lol:

The point of this message boards IS System Wars.

So what does MGS4 being overrated have to do with System Wars? I think you're in the wrong forum section TC; try posting this in the Playstation 3 forum instead.

I think its fine when ppl say gears and halo is overrated as long as they post a thought out opinion. And yes MGS4 is relevant in system wars we talk about exclusives here dont we? or are we not allowed to talk about any games? lol wut

The metal gear solid games have increasingly became a huge pile of self-interesting convoluted pretentious dribble. The people who claim it is great need to stop watching Narunto/DragonBallZ on cartoon network and pick up a dam book. If reading it too difficult, play Planescape Torment and see how a proper story is done in video-game.Kez1984

[QUOTE="azad_champ"]These "Insert game here is overrated" threads should get banned. MGS story is a masterpiece.Bazooka_4ME

Didn't you know? All top-ranking games are overrated... :(

The metal gear solid games have increasingly became a huge pile of self-interesting convoluted pretentious dribble. The people who claim it is great need to stop watching Narunto/DragonBallZ on cartoon network and pick up a dam book. If reading is too difficult, play Planescape Torment and see how a proper story is done in video-game.Kez1984

this

I think its fine when ppl say gears and halo is overrated as long as they post a thought out opinion. And yes MGS4 is relevant in system wars we talk about exclusives here dont we? or are we not allowed to talk about any games? lol wutmephisto_11

lol wut?... Why did you post this here then? Scared of posting it in the PS3 forum?

MGS4 has a great story. Any negatives about it deserves to be flamed especially disagreeing with GameSpot's 10/10.

Suit yourself TC, it's your thread. :|

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MGS4 has a great story. Any negatives about it deserves to be flamed especially disagreeing with GameSpot's 10/10.

Bazooka_4ME

What a pathetic argument.

I'm off to play Kane and Lynch.

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[QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

I think its fine when ppl say gears and halo is overrated as long as they post a thought out opinion. And yes MGS4 is relevant in system wars we talk about exclusives here dont we? or are we not allowed to talk about any games? lol wutmephisto_11

lol wut?... Why did you post this here then? Scared of posting it in the PS3 forum?

MGS4 has a great story. Any negatives about it deserves to be flamed especially disagreeing with GameSpot's 10/10.

Suit yourself TC, it's your thread. :|

Lol scared of posting it in the ps3 forum? system wars is practically the ps3 forum. I dont want to get just ps3 owners opinions on the game which is why i posted this here, ps3 owners can still reply so wtf are you saying?

Any negatives deserve to be flamed? are you scared of your game being criticized? sorry buddy but in the real world people have opinions and it seems like the majority of people posting in this thread agree with me.

All i hear from you is whining and you offered no arguments. unless you're willing to put forth a good argument and post without flaming then kindly GTFO of this thread

calm down dude sheeesh...; aiight, aiight, MGS4's story is overrrated, you win...

:roll: :arrow: :lol:

system wars is practically the ps3 forum. I dont want to get just ps3 owners opinions on the game which is why i posted this here,

mephisto_11

what.

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system wars is practically the ps3 forum. I dont want to get just ps3 owners opinions on the game which is why i posted this here,

VanHelsingBoA64

what.

i joined recently but in the past 5 months or so ps3 owners have taken over system wars, just look at polls, ps3 wins almost every poll

"Anyone else find Metal Gear's story to be vastly overrated?"

If you have played them all, no.

FragTycoon

I was always a special case... *hugs self* . Yes. Quite in fact I find the series to have the most overrated storyline in the games industry. But I'm also a fan of the series... (wait, what?)

[QUOTE="VanHelsingBoA64"][QUOTE="mephisto_11"]

system wars is practically the ps3 forum. I dont want to get just ps3 owners opinions on the game which is why i posted this here,

mephisto_11

what.

i joined recently but in the past 5 months or so ps3 owners have taken over system wars, just look at polls, ps3 wins almost every poll

it actually evened out after the massive exodus after MGS4-10. funny how this topic is about MGS4 also :P

no, however there were some stupid parts, i do agree. for instance, the part where meryll and johnny are fighting together and then she proposes or whatever. that was so cliche and stupid. but the rest of the story was great.

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MGS4=10

the explaining kinda makes me sleepy

but then again the games are fantastic

but sometimes is just dumb in my opinion