Another nail in the Diablo coffin - Lost Ark coming to the west!

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#1 NoodleFighter
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The PC MMOARPG Lost Ark which got revealed as far back as 2013 is now finally coming to the West as the devs are in the final stages of releasing the Korean Version which is currently in Open Beta. It seems the Western release is happening sooner since China is currently not a current priority due to foreign games licensing ban in China. The publishers of Lost Ark are also the developers of the massively successful first person shooter known as Crossfire so where China makes the overwhelming majority of it's money so naturally they would go there but the game ban has worked in our favor. The devs are targeting North America and Europe in their next launch phase so good news for us.

I consider Lost Ark a Diablo killer because the game makes Diablo 3 and every other ARPG look like shit in comparison. Lost Ark will also be a big budget cinematic and story driven MMOARPG so it's production values will easily appeal to a ton of gamers. Brian Tyler who is composing the soundtrack for Lost Ark is has also done soundtracks to MCU movies.

I wonder how long it's gonna take for them to do a English localization since there is a ton of content and cinematics so they will have to invest in decent voice actors. I've been following the game for years but never played it due to the high amounts of ping I'd get from trying to play on the other side of the world. From what I've seen every Western gamer that has played Lost Ark has loved it and says it doesn't fit the typical grindy P2W Korean MMO box.

Original Korean article

summarized by MMOs.com

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#2 narlymech
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never heard of it

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#3 Howmakewood
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How p2win are we talking about with this one?

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#4 DaVillain  Moderator
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Literally what Diablo 3 should have been! Still, I have no expectation of seeing an actual official and localized release of this game in this lifetime, along with Lineage Eternal :(

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#5 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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WHy are people so happy about diablo 3 on the switch D3 sucked man its just not as good as D2

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#6 cainetao11
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LMAO sure. This isn't killing Diablo. Another ARPG is always welcome but spare me with the "killer" moniker bullshit

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#7  Edited By Gatygun
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Really good news, its probably the most anticipated game right now for diablo fans.

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#8 NoodleFighter
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@howmakewood said:

How p2win are we talking about with this one?

As far as I know there isn't really anything P2W in Lost Ark currently. The closest would be that Avatars/skins give 1% stat boost on strength, agility or intelligence but they can also be crafted by players. So it's monetization is more like WarFrame where you pay for convenience (get items sooner) than pay to win. I wonder what monetization method they'll use for the West. If they go the Black Desert Online route and make it buy to play with different tiers then I'd think that would be a good way for them to make money without going full money grubbing on us. This game did cost $100 million to make so naturally they will be looking on how to make a return in profit as soon as possible but the game appears to be a huge hit with over 350,000 concurrent players in the open beta so hopefully they won't try as hard to milk.

@davillain- said:

Literally what Diablo 3 should have been! Still, I have no expectation of seeing an actual official and localized release of this game in this lifetime, along with Lineage Eternal :(

I know that feel man, I would purposely forget that this game existed at times just so I don't get tormented by the wait. Hopefully we get a Western beta next year. Lineage Eternal is gonna take even longer since the original Lineage Eternal we saw got canned and Project TL is what is taking it's place and since they've moved to a new engine and team it's gonna be even longer before it's playable anywhere. Project TL didn't make an appearance at GSTAR this year so that's another worry. It doesn't help that shady stuff has been going on with NCsoft in recent years.

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#9 Howmakewood
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@NoodleFighter: Black Desert went more p2w later on... you could craft items without chance of breaking if you paid

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#10 Shewgenja
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This is most welcome news! Diablo 3 was a good game, but they definitely should have styled it a bit more like D2. This game seems to hit all the right notes and I'm going to give it a go :)

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#11 PC_Rocks
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LMAO, Korean MMO.

@NoodleFighter said:

As far as I know there isn't really anything P2W in Lost Ark currently. The closest would be that Avatars/skins give 1% stat boost on strength, agility or intelligence but they can also be crafted by players. So it's monetization is more like WarFrame where you pay for convenience (get items sooner) than pay to win. I wonder what monetization method they'll use for the West. If they go the Black Desert Online route and make it buy to play with different tiers then I'd think that would be a good way for them to make money without going full money grubbing on us. This game did cost $100 million to make so naturally they will be looking on how to make a return in profit as soon as possible but the game appears to be a huge hit with over 350,000 concurrent players in the open beta so hopefully they won't try as hard to milk.

Totally false, it's a certified, scientifically proven fact that all PC games are cheap indie games made by neckbeards in their basement.

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#12 NoodleFighter
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@howmakewood: Dang I forgot about that. We'll just have to see with Lost Ark when the games leaves open beta in Korea and when it does come to the West. If a different publisher does bring the game to the West hopefully it isn't a company like Trion World.

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#13 General_Solo76
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Nobody cares about Lost Ark dude

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#14 osan0
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dang. a real shame its an MMO. it looks ace. i would be happy to pay full whack for an SP version of such a game.

but an mmo with microtransactions....*sigh*. thats a shame.

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#15 enzyme36
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I bet this cant even crack the sales D3 gets on switch alone this year.... diablo killer pffff

I'm honestly surprised how good of a port that game was.... and i realize arpg games feel great on a portable platform

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#16 Vaeh
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In terms of market share, it is behind LoL and PUBG. And thats one country only lol

@general_solo76 said:

Nobody cares about Lost Ark dude

Speak for yourself dude

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#17  Edited By xekon
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I am looking forward to Lost Ark, Diablo 3 vs Diablo 2 is a difficult debate. I grew up playing Diablo 2 for over 10 years! So naturally I was hyped when Diablo 3 came out. I actually do play Diablo 3, but it does not keep my attention quite like Diablo 2 did. So far I have been playing Seasonal, and I will play a season or two, then take 2-3 seasons off before I return to Diablo 3, usually around the time when they add something or do balance changes. A lot of what they have done with Diablo 3 is great.... there is just something missing, not having trading is probably part of it. I used to save useful stuff for my friends. Also it was fun to be able to play with 8 people in a game. I think the graphics of Diablo 3 on spell effect are a tad too flashy, they can be elegant without being so flashy. I think with 8 players in a game with the current spell effects I would die of a seizure from all the flashing lights, I don't really remembering it being that big of a problem in Diablo 2. Also I hope that they one day do a remaster of Diablo 2, would be a while because they are currently working on the Warcraft 3 remaster (which I am very much looking forward to)

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#18 NoodleFighter
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@enzyme36: @vaeh: The game currently has over 350,000 concurrent players in Korea. I think it's going to do pretty well.

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Hate to tell you but D3 sells.

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#20 Vaeh
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@NoodleFighter said:

@enzyme36: @vaeh: The game currently has over 350,000 concurrent players in Korea. I think it's going to do pretty well.

350kCCU is pretty impressive overall. Imagine if it had global release right now, the timing with the diablo shitshow...

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@vaeh said:
@NoodleFighter said:

@enzyme36: @vaeh: The game currently has over 350,000 concurrent players in Korea. I think it's going to do pretty well.

350kCCU is pretty impressive overall. Imagine if it had global release right now, the timing with the diablo shitshow...

China alone will be more than enough. I mean Smilgate's CrossFire has over 500 million players from there.

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#22 Jacanuk
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Hmm, ok good for people who like Asian games

But sorry this is not going to "beat" Diablo, Diablo is Diablo and Blizzard is still the master of that genre.

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#23 dzimm
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Eh, looks like another cheap Diablo III knockoff. I'll stick with the real thing.

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#24  Edited By Zaryia
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@Jacanuk said:

Hmm, ok good for people who like Asian games

But sorry this is not going to "beat" Diablo, Diablo is Diablo and Blizzard is still the master of that genre.

Ehh....Path of Exile is quite a bit better lol.

@dzimm said:

Eh, looks like another cheap Diablo III knockoff. I'll stick with the real thing.

The real thing is PoE.

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#25 Gatygun
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People downplaying lost ark because it's not a sony movie game or heavily marketed or not on there console.

Pathetic.

It's the most anticipated game for diablo/path of exile/black desert online fans by a mile already for years. Can't wait.

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@Jacanuk said:

Hmm, ok good for people who like Asian games

But sorry this is not going to "beat" Diablo, Diablo is Diablo and Blizzard is still the master of that genre.

WRONG

In fact Path of Exile may have more current players.

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@Jacanuk said:

Hmm, ok good for people who like Asian games

But sorry this is not going to "beat" Diablo, Diablo is Diablo and Blizzard is still the master of that genre.

lol what?

Path of Exile is hands down a far better Diablo game than Diablo.

Diablo III was surpassed before it even came out.

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#28 NoodleFighter
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@dzimm said:

Eh, looks like another cheap Diablo III knockoff. I'll stick with the real thing.

Are you looking at the same game as me? It's the other way around man Lost Ark makes Diablo III look like a cheap knock off.

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#29 dzimm
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@NoodleFighter said:
@dzimm said:

Eh, looks like another cheap Diablo III knockoff. I'll stick with the real thing.

Are you looking at the same game as me?

Yes.

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#30 dzimm
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@texasgoldrush said:

In fact Path of Exile may have more current players.

Unlikely. Diablo III is available on five major gaming platforms and likely has far more players at any given time than Path of Exile -- or as I like to refer to it PoS. They're just not all consolidated onto one server, which is fine because Diablo is essentially a single player experience.

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@dzimm said:
@texasgoldrush said:

In fact Path of Exile may have more current players.

Unlikely. Diablo III is available on five major gaming platforms and likely has far more players at any given time than Path of Exile -- or as I like to refer to it PoS. They're just not all consolidated onto one server, which is fine because Diablo is essentially a single player experience.

No, Diablo III has bled off players left and right due to lack of updates while players come back to POE after every update, which they will get in December.

Also, POE is about to pick up PS4 players.

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#32 dzimm
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@texasgoldrush said:

Also, POE is about to pick up PS4 players.

Now they just need to pick up XB360, PS3, XBONE, and Switch to be able to compete with Diablo III. ;-)

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#33 texasgoldrush
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@dzimm said:
@texasgoldrush said:

Also, POE is about to pick up PS4 players.

Now they just need to pick up XB360, PS3, XBONE, and Switch to be able to compete with Diablo III. ;-)

They have Xbox One.....next, POE has been updated, D3 hasn't. Its very possible for POE to have more current players right now, and they will pick more up for Betrayal and PS4 release.

D3 will see a spike of Switch users than fade, thats it.