Angry Joe rant on PS5 Pre-Order debacle

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#1  Edited By SolidGame_basic
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I have to agree, Sony dropped the ball on this one lol. If it wasn't for social media, I wouldn't have caught wind of the early preorders. I wonder who is at fault here. Sony or retailers? I guess both lol. Thoughts, SW? You think Sony can fix this or will a lot of people be screwed over?

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#2 Pedro
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Both are at fault. Now scalpers will rule.

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#3 Chutebox
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How was it Sony's fault? Those retailers chose to go early.

Full disclosure: I didn't watch the video.

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#4 lebanese_boy
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Most likely retailers are at fault here, they often break street date on releases so it's not hard to believe they did the same for pre-orders.

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#5  Edited By GoldenElementXL
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Nobody told Joe Amazon went up last night too? LMAO. Poor entitled streamer missed out on preorders. Don’t these retailers know who he is?!?!

Stealth preorders help combat scalper bots. That being said, I will GLADLY sell Joe a PS5 for $3,000.

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#6 Zidaneski
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i missed out on preorders too but more will become available as time goes on. its not the end of the world lol. Only impatient brats would flip out right now.

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#7 2mrw
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Smart people don't do pre orders

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#8 ProtossRushX
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I thought amazon went up after midnight so technically it did go up today.

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#9 Random_Matt
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I didn't even know they were, randomly went onto the GAME website and pre-ordered one. Thought why not, they don't take payment till close to launch.

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#10 tormentos
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@Chutebox said:

How was it Sony's fault? Those retailers chose to go early.

Full disclosure: I didn't watch the video.

Exactly some people are just lol worthy when it comes to attack sony,so i tell you TOMORROW pre-orders start and you go out your way and push on with the pre sale just to sell as many units as possible.

I am sure there will be more as they intent to have more units than the PS4 did,in fact they intent to have like 15 millions or 11 if we take the news already refute by sony by march 30.

One thing is for sure the demand is fierce,even here people are already making long line in best buy to get one,which isn't very common here.

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#11 ConanTheStoner
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@Chutebox said:

Full disclosure: I didn't watch the video.

Worth it to see a grown ass dude nearly in tears over a console pre-order.

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#12 Pedro
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@2mrw said:

Smart people don't do pre orders

I strongly disagree. Check ebay for validation.

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#13 hardwenzen
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I can tell he is extremely butthurt. I hope he doesn't find any to pre order, that would be funny

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#14 hardwenzen
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@2mrw said:

Smart people don't do pre orders

Applies to games, yea, but this is not a game. You don't pre order means you won't get it this year or pay $500+ more for the system.

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#15 shellcase86
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Completely overblown.

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#16 lamprey263
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I think both companies should have given pre-order early access through a phase based on users engagement to reward brand loyalty and to make sure active users get them, they'd be likely to bring friends along too is a good way to secure a good head start. This stuff could be based on combination of tracked gameplay and account and social metrics. They could take people who rank in a top something percent, send them an invite to a secure pre-order before the wider open pre-orders open. That would be more ideal than a lottery or battle royale pre-order day. Looks like MS isn't doing anything special. Maybe my only hope is it won't be in enough demand to have any issues getting.

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#17 pyro1245
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@Chutebox said:

How was it Sony's fault? Those retailers chose to go early.

Full disclosure: I didn't watch the video.

Sony should have just said pre-orders were going live after the video. Once the retailers have a price and release date that's all they need to start selling.

Sony's communication was very poor and they've been in this business for a very long time. They knew what would happen.

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#18  Edited By pyro1245
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@hardwenzen said:
@2mrw said:

Smart people don't do pre orders

Applies to games, yea, but this is not a game. You don't pre order means you won't get it this year or pay $500+ more for the system.

Yeah... given the demand and limited supply...

...but year pre-ordering digitalsoftware is not smart.

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#19  Edited By Daredevils2k
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Its not sony fault that no one wants to buy XBSEX and S over the ps5

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#20 PC_Rocks
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People still watch him?

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#21 hrt_rulz01
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It sounds like it was a sh*tshow... MS did it correctly, everyone knows the day preorders go live for XsX.

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#22 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@pc_rocks said:

People still watch him?

I watch Joe mainly if Alex is in it lol. But really, Alex really carries the show more than Joe himself does.

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#23 Bluestars
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good strategy by sony....put a 1000 units up for preorder then get the “they sold out fast“ false hype

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#24  Edited By Ant_17
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Grumpy gringo is grumpy, what a shock.

Sony should fire everyone at Walmart.

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#25 Telekill
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Yeah... PS5 preorders sounds to have been a massive cluster f**k for online shoppers.

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#26 iambatman7986
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Sony said they would give plenty of notice for preorders. They failed at that. They failed to enforce a date and time. Yes retailers are wrong too, but Sony's initial promise of giving plenty of notice was a straight up lie.

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#27 GoldenElementXL
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Those complaining about the PS5 preorders clearly didn’t just try to get a RTX 3080.

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#28 Phlop_Spencer
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@bluestars: I think Sony’s strategy is make video game machine that plays good video games - and people want it.

MS makes good consoles with no video games.

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#29 WitIsWisdom
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It's absolute bullshit. I tried to get one last night and this morning to no avail. I guess I should have listened to the crappy youtubers and not SONY themselves... I'll keep trying to get my pre-orders in, but this is completely unprofessional and a big mess. Not all that shocked overall, and I went through this with the Wii as well, but all they did was allow thousands of consoles to fall into the hands of buy bots that will be sold by scalpers instead of getting consoles to the people that actually wanted one. I don't know why SONY decided to even say the pre-orders were opening up today. They could have just started them in a week or so. They said themselves that they weren't going to just shadow drop pre-orders. What in the hell was the point of even signing up early on their website?

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#30 GoldenElementXL
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@WitIsWisdom said:

all they did was allow thousands of consoles to fall into the hands of buy bots

Nah... Announcing the exact minute of the day the preorders/orders go live is what allows the bots to eat up the stock. What retailers did last night actually got the PS5 in the hands of consumers. The PS5 was on Amazon for almost 10 minutes. That NEVER would have happened if the bots knew when the PS5 was going live. Target was pretty smooth, as was Walmart. Best Buy was a nightmare, but that has to do with their silly site more than anything.

It sucks that people were told preorders were going up the 17th. But the minute the first retailer broke the preorders, you should have been monitoring social media. The preorders cycled through the different retailers over the span of 4 hours. That's 3 hours, 59 minutes and 59.9999 more seconds than you would have had against the bots. Just look at the RTX 3080 launch...

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#31 RatchetClank92
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Yeah I was surprised they just dropped the preorders without any heads up, fortunately I saw mention of it online last night so I just bought one on Walmart for $711 CDN. So stoked and happy I have one secured

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#32 2mrw
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@Pedro said:
@2mrw said:

Smart people don't do pre orders

I strongly disagree. Check ebay for validation.

@hardwenzen said:
@2mrw said:

Smart people don't do pre orders

Applies to games, yea, but this is not a game. You don't pre order means you won't get it this year or pay $500+ more for the system.

Fair enough, lets wait for next year when all said and done and all the hidden crap is uncovered. You will make a more informative decision.

That's why it is smart to wait.

If you see it any other way, that's definitely below average IQ

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#33  Edited By IvanGrozny
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Never buy a console at launch. To play what exactly? 5 games? One exclusive. Yeah, no thanks. I am having a blast with my retro library. Never played Halo before. Having a blast playing Master Chief Collection on Gamepass PC. The same goes for rtx3080. Most games I play are retro, I don't need rtx for that. Will get it when everything is hassle free.

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#34 Wiiboxstation
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@2mrw: I'm scalping my pre order. Lots of money to be made from desperate cows.

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@phlop_spencer:

cows mad disease

hah

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#36 npiet1
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I got emails telling me how to pre-order and there where news articles saying pre-orders started tomorrow. It was pretty clear that pre-orders were about to drop.

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#37 SolidGame_basic
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@ivangrozny said:

Never buy a console at launch. To play what exactly? 5 games? One exclusive. Yeah, no thanks. I am having a blast with my retro library. Never played Halo before. Having a blast playing Master Chief Collection on Gamepass PC. The same goes for rtx3080. Most games I play are retro, I don't need rtx for that. Will get it when everything is hassle free.

If no one bought consoles at launch, this industry would implode.

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#38 firedrakes
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@goldenelementxl said:

Nobody told Joe Amazon went up last night too? LMAO. Poor entitled streamer missed out on preorders. Don’t these retailers know who he is?!?!

Stealth preorders help combat scalper bots. That being said, I will GLADLY sell Joe a PS5 for $3,000.

lol nice try but scalper hit that to hard

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#39 Archangel3371
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Sounds like this got botched pretty bad. This scalping bs is totally out of control.

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#40 I_P_Daily
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So is Joe good today or bad? sorry i can never keep up lol.

Sony should have gave everyone at least a weeks notice, its totally on Sony, but, but retailers.

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#41 Eoten
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To protect customers, Sony COULD have told retailers their pre-orders would be null and void if they went early. And if any of them do, just offer more pre-order opportunities direct on their website, or distribute them out to the retailers who stayed on schedule.

As for scalping, eBay loves it, they'd never do anything to discourage it because they're making money hand over fist on this shit. $1000 for digital PS5 on there. If they banned every account with a PS5 pre-order up for sale above market value, it'd certainly put a hurting on scalping since that's where 99% of them dump their product. Facebook marketplace is the other. But again, they make money on it, so they won't.

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#42 uninspiredcup
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He sounds like an entitled baby.

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#43 vl4d_l3nin
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Dude's gained a lot of weight over the years lol

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#44 GoldenElementXL
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@vl4d_l3nin: What? He looks like he’s lost 40lbs. He also got his teeth done.

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#45 NathanDrakeSwag
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@2mrw said:

Smart people don't do pre orders

Someone's salty.

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#46 mandzilla  Moderator
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Man's working hard on filling up his swear jar so he can afford the eBay prices, bold strategy.

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#47 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@mandzilla said:

Man's working hard on filling up his swear jar so he can afford the eBay prices, bold strategy.

He's living up to his name :P

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#48 Shmiity
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Holiday 2021 Gang what up

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#49 ProtossRushX
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Whys this guy always pissed off all the time? Dude you're a big youtuber, sony will just mail you one of these for free.

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#50 Eoten
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@ProtossRushX said:

Whys this guy always pissed off all the time? Dude you're a big youtuber, sony will just mail you one of these for free.

Probably an unchecked sense of entitlement. Parents never told him "no" and somebody else just did.