Analyst: Switch 2 will be an iterative upgrade, possibly cost $400

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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https://www.gamespot.com/articles/expect-switch-2-to-be-iterative-instead-of-a-revolution-says-analyst/1100-6520102/

The Switch 2 might look like the current hybrid console, according to analyst Serkan Toto. Toto also predicted the unannounced system will carry a bigger price tag when Nintendo launches the product, which is expected later this year.

Sharing his predictions with GamesIndustry.biz, Toto believes that Switch 2 will finally arrive in 2024 at a cost of $400. The founder of consultancy group Kantan Games added that Nintendo's next console is "likely to be an iteration rather than a revolution. Nintendo might add some bells and whistles to the device, but it will be similar to the current Switch." In other words, expect the same hybrid functionality with portability being an option for gaming on the go.

Toto also thinks Nintendo might raise prices across the board for Switch 2 games as well, meaning they could be priced at $70. Keep in mind the company has already hit this fee with Switch. The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom officially cost $70, becoming the first Nintendo-developed game for the system to cost that much.

In July, it was reported that Switch 2 development kits were already with developers, with a 2024 launch in mind. It was said at the time the system would work in portable mode, fitting in with Toto's new prediction. Digital Foundry also has investigated what the Switch 2 hardware internals may offer and built a PC that could come close to matching that power. They found that Switch 2 might be able to run Death Stranding at 1080p at roughly 35 frames per second.

Nintendo hasn't officially revealed a Switch successor yet. However, Nintendo of America president Doug Bowser said the aim of a new system would be to "surprise and delight."

Thoughts, SW? Nothing really surprising to me. This seems like what most people are thinking..

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#3  Edited By uninspiredcup
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I hope the Eshop rips me the fvck off with 15 year old games being modern day price.

(that still run 30fps)

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#4 UItravioIence
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Switch 2 will be such an easy pass.

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#5 dracula_16
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I think there's gotta be another gimmick that we aren't expecting. Nintendo probably can't go toe to toe against Microsoft and Sony in terms of offering powerful consoles with lots of multi-plats and third-party games. Their bread and butter is offering an alternative to the Xbox and Playstation. Offering a mere upgrade of the Switch doesn't address that.

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Good, that’s exactly what I want. Stick with the current Switch model. Just make it more powerful. That would probably make it $500 here in Canada. I’m fine with that.

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#7  Edited By hardwenzen
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Possibly cost $400? Not "possibly", it will be $399.99 as i predicted since 2020. Now imagine paying this much in 2024 when the system will be competing with the 2013 xbone when it comes to performance. OOF.

And lets not forget, they're guaranteed to charge $70 for everything, when their games haven't discovered motion capture, they don't invest into voice acting, cutscenes, writing and story telling. You're getting an early 2000's experience in 2024 for $70. The ****.

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#8  Edited By GirlUSoCrazy
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I hope the new Joy Cons are good (they suck on the current Switch), 3D stereoscopic screen, compatible with old games and accessories, modern online experience, family sharing of digital purchases, third party games release day and date with other consoles, and physical games come all on the cart with no extra download (except update patches obviously)

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Hope Switch 2 at least performs similar to AMD RX 680M. That APU is pretty cheap nowadays and pretty competitive with 3050 Mobile edition.

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"They found that Switch 2 might be able to run Death Stranding at 1080p at roughly 35 frames per second."

Jesus H Christ...

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#11 onesiphorus
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Unless the information of the Switch's successor is official and directly from Nintendo, I will believe it. Other than that, I care little about speculations, rumors, and even informed opinions from analysts.

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#12  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@SolidGame_basic: meh, absolutely zero interest in switch 2.

I say that but if they release a metroid and zelda and new smash...well I'll probably get one. Not for $400 though.

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I passed on the Switch, will pass on the Switch 2.

And if it's going for $400 in the states, it would be around $600 here, yeah Nintendo can jog on for that price.

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@last_lap said:

I passed on the Switch, will pass on the Switch 2.

And if it's going for $400 in the states, it would be around $600 here, yeah Nintendo can jog on for that price.

What if your wife or kids want it? Will you tell em to jog off, bro?

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According to this analyst. I’ll pass on this rumor until Nintendo officially announces something.

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Entirely possible. But this is also the company that took the wildly successful Wii setup, binned it an went with something quite bonkers for it's successor.

The 400 price tag though. Assuming it is really just a switch 2.0....uff. That puts it right in the PS5s firing line. Still the price difference between the switch and PS5 is not all that big, yet the Switch still sells well considering it's age. Maybe loads of people really do value the flexibility that much.

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five years later we will get the switch 2 oled.

or switch 2 supreme. with a 8 inch screen instead of 7inch screen lol.

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Yeah..no

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#19  Edited By hrt_rulz01
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Sounds good to me... Just make a more powerful Switch with a nice 1080p OLED screen. Plus a few other refinements and I'll be happy.

And please make it 100% backwards compatible.

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@hrt_rulz01 said:

Sounds good to me... Just make a more powerful Switch with a nice 1080p OLED screen. Plus a few other refinements and I'll be happy.

And please make it 100% backwards compatible.

You won't get a 1080p screen. If even a Deck doesn't have it, what makes you think that Nintendo, a company that focuses on the most welfare specs in the whole industry, will have it?🤡Don't be a fool.

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@hardwenzen: My family have access to a SNES, Wii, Gamecube, N64, Gameboys, multiple 2DS and 3DS they never use them. So I don't have to worry about buying a Switch 1 or 2.

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#22  Edited By mrbojangles25
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Honestly the only way I would remotely (remotely!) entertain the idea of buying a Switch is if I could get one for <250 and they made it better and more durable. It'd also need to do more than play Nintendo games.

I'd sooner spend 600 on a Steam Deck (or equivelent) than 400 on a Nintendo platform.

I just don't understand how Nintendo can offer so little but charge such high prices. I have nothing against Nintendo games themselves, it's just such a greedy little company imo. It's like they're charging Gucci purse prices but offering Hello Kitty purses.

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@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: My family have access to a SNES, Wii, Gamecube, N64, Gameboys, multiple 2DS and 3DS they never use them. So I don't have to worry about buying a Switch 1 or 2.

What if they see an ad, and all become obsessed by the Switch 2? Have you thought of that?

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Honestly the only way I would remotely (remotely!) entertain the idea of buying a Switch is if I could get one for <250 and they made it better and more durable. It'd also need to do more than play Nintendo games.

I'd sooner spend 600 on a Steam Deck (or equivelent) than 400 on a Nintendo platform.

I just don't understand how Nintendo can offer so little but charge such high prices. I have nothing against Nintendo games themselves, it's just such a greedy little company imo. It's like they're charging Gucci purse prices but offering Hello Kitty purses.

Gamers love being abused. It is that simple. 😂

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#25 GhostOfGolden
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Look at the specs of these expensive PC handhelds. The Switch 2 won’t match those specs. Even at $400 it will be nearly half the price. So expect nearly half the specs. 🤷🏾‍♂️

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@gifford38 said:

five years later we will get the switch 2 oled.

or switch 2 supreme. with a 8 inch screen instead of 7inch screen lol.

Sounds like a burger. I'll have a Switch 2 supreme and a PS5 large.

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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: My family have access to a SNES, Wii, Gamecube, N64, Gameboys, multiple 2DS and 3DS they never use them. So I don't have to worry about buying a Switch 1 or 2.

What if they see an ad, and all become obsessed by the Switch 2? Have you thought of that?

I know my family, have you ever thought of that, of course not because if you did you wouldn't ask such nonsensical questions.

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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: My family have access to a SNES, Wii, Gamecube, N64, Gameboys, multiple 2DS and 3DS they never use them. So I don't have to worry about buying a Switch 1 or 2.

What if they see an ad, and all become obsessed by the Switch 2? Have you thought of that?

I know my family, have you ever thought of that, of course not because if you did you wouldn't ask such nonsensical questions.

Simply put, i don't believe you, or you are unaware of surprises.

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Cool. But moving forward, il be investing on pc handhelds.

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@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: My family have access to a SNES, Wii, Gamecube, N64, Gameboys, multiple 2DS and 3DS they never use them. So I don't have to worry about buying a Switch 1 or 2.

What if they see an ad, and all become obsessed by the Switch 2? Have you thought of that?

I know my family, have you ever thought of that, of course not because if you did you wouldn't ask such nonsensical questions.

Simply put, i don't believe you, or you are unaware of surprises.

Get back to me when you get a missus and have some kids and live with them. Until then this discussion is over.

Have a nice day.

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@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:
@hardwenzen said:
@last_lap said:

@hardwenzen: My family have access to a SNES, Wii, Gamecube, N64, Gameboys, multiple 2DS and 3DS they never use them. So I don't have to worry about buying a Switch 1 or 2.

What if they see an ad, and all become obsessed by the Switch 2? Have you thought of that?

I know my family, have you ever thought of that, of course not because if you did you wouldn't ask such nonsensical questions.

Simply put, i don't believe you, or you are unaware of surprises.

Get back to me when you get a missus and have some kids and live with them. Until then this discussion is over.

Have a nice day.

I don't want it to end😥Please.

Btw i am marrying Shadowheart from BG3, so it is what it is.

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@Archangel3371 said:

Good, that’s exactly what I want. Stick with the current Switch model. Just make it more powerful. That would probably make it $500 here in Canada. I’m fine with that.

You're from Canada? Wow. That's actually completely random. Lol.

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#33 LuxuryHeart
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The funniest thing about this thread, is seeing people who aren't fans of Nintendo, telling them how to market and design their products. Newsflash, dorks! They listened to y'all for the Wii U, and it flopped. They stopped listening to you dorks for the Switch, and it's a commercial success!

Honestly speaking, they just need to keep the same formula overall. The hybrid design is smart. All they need to do is upgrade it and fix the issues. Like better joycons, more powerful system, better online infrastructure, and a better stream of releases. Outside of the Switch, make their old games accessible outside of Nintendo's online, because that is actually trash. I think they need more mini consoles. Like the NES and SNES mini, but also include the handheld games on those consoles. They were priced accordingly, considering that you can jail break them (which I support).

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@luxuryheart said:

They listened to y'all for the Wii U, and it flopped. They stopped listening to you dorks for the Switch, and it's a commercial success!

The Switch, is literally an iteration of the WiiU not the DS or any of their other systems. So Nintendo was smart to listen these dorks instead of folks like you.🤭

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#35  Edited By GhostOfGolden
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@Pedro said:
@luxuryheart said:

They listened to y'all for the Wii U, and it flopped. They stopped listening to you dorks for the Switch, and it's a commercial success!

The Switch, is literally an iteration of the WiiU not the DS or any of their other systems. So Nintendo was smart to listen these dorks instead of folks like you.🤭

This is actually spot on. Looking back at the console, the Wii U was like a Switch prototype. We just needed capable hardware in that form factor to catch up. The Switch took the best parts of the Wii U and made them better. (And all the Wii U games except Xenoblade Chronicles X)

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#36 hardwenzen
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@luxuryheart: Here we go, the Nintendo culists are back defending their new system. Your current one couldn't handle anything, and nothing will change with this so called upgrade.

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#37  Edited By LuxuryHeart
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@Pedro said:
@luxuryheart said:

They listened to y'all for the Wii U, and it flopped. They stopped listening to you dorks for the Switch, and it's a commercial success!

The Switch, is literally an iteration of the WiiU not the DS or any of their other systems. So Nintendo was smart to listen these dorks instead of folks like you.🤭

The Switch is a full hybrid that combines console and handheld. The Wii U failed to do this. The Switch also didn't focused on prioritizing third party games that appeal to the Xbox and PlayStation crowd. They prioritized games for the Nintendo crowd, and it paid off.

You're not even going to buy their next console and you likely don't have a Switch, you likely didn't buy the Wii U (or even the 3DS), and you likely didn't buy the Wii or DS. So again, why should Nintendo listen to people like you?

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@luxuryheart: You argument failed because it lacked merit and now you trying to spin to save yourself. Ownership of any system is not required for commentary or for validation of commentary. Your take is a perfect example of why it is not required. Oh and I do own a Switch, 3ds and WiiU so take a seat with your nonsensical takes.😂

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@onesiphorus said:

Unless the information of the Switch's successor is official and directly from Nintendo, I will believe it. Other than that, I care little about speculations, rumors, and even informed opinions from analysts.

Yup... we need to get scoopers out of anything entertainment.

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@luxuryheart: How people have not coped with the fact that the era of powerful Nintendo hardware (that FAILED in sales) is over, and has since 2006, I have NO idea.

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They'll add a weird gimmick to it.

They have to because that's just what Nintendo does. Hopefully nothing drastic.

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Exactly what I wanted.

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#43  Edited By hardwenzen
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I am having a hard time coming out with a gimmick that isn't too expensive for Nintendo standards. Really am not sure what it could be.

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I hope it's a big fat flop.

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@Pedro: My argument did have merit, and I'm ultimately right. The Switch was the console that Nintendo rightfully gave third party hardcore gamers the middle finger with. They appealed to their fans, and that paid off well.

Press X for doubt on you owning a Nintendo system, since you're clearly not a fan.

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#46 LuxuryHeart
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@nintendoboy16 said:

@luxuryheart: How people have not coped with the fact that the era of powerful Nintendo hardware (that FAILED in sales) is over, and has since 2006, I have NO idea.

It's just them coping. Basically, they wanted Nintendo to appeal to them or flop. Though Nintendo DIDN'T appeal to them, and it's their most successful console to date (only losing to the DS thus far). What this means is that Nintendo ISN'T going third party. They wanted Nintendo to have another Wii U, so that they can leave the hardware space alone, and be an exclusive third party company. The end goal of hardcore gamers is Nintendo games on the Xbox, PlayStation, and PC. Though the Switch being successful basically crushed that dream. So now, they're back at square one of wanting Nintendo to make an Xbox/PlayStation clone. Because apparently, we need three of them same systems on the market...

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#47 Pedro
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@luxuryheart said:

@Pedro: My argument did have merit, and I'm ultimately right. The Switch was the console that Nintendo rightfully gave third party hardcore gamers the middle finger with. They appealed to their fans, and that paid off well.

Press X for doubt on you owning a Nintendo system, since you're clearly not a fan.

The Switch was the iterative upgrade to the WiiU. That is what you are ignoring because your silly claim was

"They listened to y'all for the Wii U, and it flopped."

You don't have to be a fan of a system to own it. You are a grown man, act like one.🤭

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#48  Edited By WitIsWisdom
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Add better online functionality, chat rooms, easier way to add and play with friends, and trophy support and it's an easy day 1, however if they don't add most or at least some of those things I'll likelynwait and see where things go for a while.

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Add better online functionality, chat rooms, easier way to add and play with friends, and trophy support and it's an easy day 1, however if they don't add most or at least some of those things I'll likely wait and see where things go for a while.

Give us a new Mario Kart, Mario Party, Mario Maker, and/or Donkey Kong game and it would make it easier to justify the purchase. Taking the time to add new features and games shows flexibility and that they are still moving forward, but if it's just a small increase in graphics and docked mode isn't really taken into consideration then I'm probably not as interested.

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#50 rmpumper
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Sounds like a DLSS3 tax as that will be the only notable difference.