@blue_hazy_basic said:
@SolidTy said:
Considering the same DRM that prevents selling/lending/trading/gifting/collecting is in the physical copies of PC games, there is little reason to buy physical retail copies of PC games.
You get DRM either way. I'm surprised it's not a higher percentage actually.
Companies gain so much with DD, it' only makes sense. I hope the console sector continues to offer choice between DRM free console physical copes and DD copies.
I do buy PC games of course, but since they have DRM I'm always buying them cheap. That's the trick. You give up a lot of consumer advantages, so you make sure you don't pay a premium for DD. That's how I see it, but I've been gaming since Atari so I know my views are ancient, especially compared to the new generation of gamers who are far more willing to purchase full priced DD games despite the many consumer disadvantages.
1. Aren't you a collector of games? So why do you care about re-selling them.
2. Used games industry (not the small scale selling of games, but places like gamestop) is an absolute cancer on the video games sector.
Thank god physical games will disappear soon.
1.) Yes, I'm a longtime collector. I didn't say just about re-selling them though, did I? "selling/lending/trading/gifting/collecting". These are all important to me, not just selling. I have family/friends that borrow or trade games with me occasionally. About reselling, it's the same as my other non-games collection. I have a old baseball card collection and it's nice to me these old baseball cards are NOT digital baseball cards in the event I ever want to sell them. Some of these cards are worth a pretty penny (Thanks Dad!). I have old rookie basketball cards as well. I have other things I collected from my youth like comics. They sell digital comics today and I would never buy those. It's nice to know that IF I fall on hard times and have to sell any of these items I've collected, I can. Perhaps I'm not as immortal as I resonate on the forums and my offspring would appreciate my collection or selling it rather. In any event, it's something I consider when buying games and other things. It's also nice to take a game out of my collection, one prized by my friends/family members, and give that game freely to a them as a gift.
2.) I support developers and buy 98% of my games brand new for my modern machines. I've been doing this since at least the Sega Genesis/SNES era. Definitely did it a lot in the PS1/N64/Saturn era. I still operate the same today. In threads on used games, I've even spoken about my stance which is to buy new and support the developers so the idea of throwing used games into an post is a bit a strawman tactic. Still, while I never brought up used games specifically or suggest anywhere that I love them, I am not against their existence. I don't buy used games unless it's for my older systems like Genesis or Atari. I'm thankful I can track down older titles for NES, SNES, Dreamcast, or Saturn. I'm sorry you find used games a problem. I assume used cars, used CDs, used DVDs, Used Blu-Rays, used housing, used lawnmowers, used baseball cards, used comic books, and used anything could be considered equally cancerous depending on what forum we are on, but to each their own. It's a nice way for collectors to increase their retro game collection. Eventually the PS4/Xbone/Wii U will be retro consoles. It's nice to know those machines will still have collectors games for them. Used games also are useful when a game goes out of print and you are trying to track down a limited, hard to find relatively modern game even. I also don't really rent games either. Again, though, I'm all for the option.
As far as Gamestop, I'm not a fan. I've repeated that here for years, so I'm even going into an anti-Gamestop diatribe as I find their operation disgusting. They are exploiting the used games industry, but that's again off topic to anything I was talking about. I've already spoke WAY too much about used games as it is.
As I said, I'm all about the OPTION to Gift/Sell/Trade/Lend/Borrow/Collection. I didn't mention used, (Used/Rent/etc) but yes, some of my family enjoy my games after I complete them and I guess you wouldn't approve. Still, I would support used and rented games over mega corporations that want to remove them to make even more money. I'm sorry to hear that you are against physical media, but I've heard you say this many times before so and I can understand your stance once you invested so much in the opposite direction. To each their own. I'm not calling for the destruction of Digital and you are calling for the end of Physical. Maybe I should be more active and call for the end of digital. I won't support digital at full price as long as I'm able. When the time comes, if it comes, then I'll make decisions on what I'll do in that future scenario. Maybe I'll just quit gaming if DD takes over consoles? Whatever. I wasn't going to buy an Xbone until they reversed their DRM decisions and they did so I bought one. DD for console to me is a complete rip off because I don't trust the networks to stay active forever, so I have to get DD cheap considering all that I'm giving up.
We are in for another generation of gaming (Wii U, PS4, Xbone) with lot's of physical media. Yay. As I said in the post you quoted, "I've been gaming since Atari so I know my views are ancient, especially compared to the new generation of gamers who are far more willing to purchase full priced DD games despite the many consumer disadvantages." I admit my views are ancient, what else could I post? That's how I feel and I know how you feel as I feel we have this discussion every year or so? I don't usually quote your DD kills physical posts though, I just post my own take in threads. You quoted me on this, so I posted more than normal as I wanted to reiterate my stance is EXACTLY where it was last year and every year I've ever been on Gamespot as an active poster (almost a decade). I feel both DD and Physical can be enjoyed. I own hundreds, maybe over a thousand DD games, but it's not my preference. I know some games can only be bought with DD and I accept it, but I wish there was an alternative. Conversely, the same holds true for physical console games. I enjoy many of the same games you do so I think we'll be okay. :)
Thank god physical games are still here today as they've been for decades.
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