An Only Digital Future is not Good for Anybody

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#1 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

just got my account hacked again in less than 3 days and whoever did it changed all my profile info (except for my birthdate because that one can't be changed) and now those bastards at Sony think I'm lying. I give them my info and they say it's incorrect... Of-course it's incorrect you idiots, the account was fucking hacked, don't you see the name? Who the hell is Fhara Mahad? Of-course is not me I'm freaking Puertorrican goddammit!

Then they ask for the serial number of my original PS3 and I'm like, dude, that thing went YLOD like 4 years ago, what else can I do? And you know what those bastards tell me? That they can't do anything about it... WHAT?! Hundreds of dollars in digital games all fucking gone because the PSN security it's as ASS as it gets because I know it's not my fault because after the first reset 2 days ago I changed EMAIL and PASSWORDS but it got hacked again just as easily.

After hearing my story and in hopes of my topic not getting locked, do you guys really think that gaming going all digital is worth all this crap?

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#2 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

not on consoles

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#3 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

perhaps don't use 12345 as a password

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#4 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@lostrib said:

perhaps don't use 12345 as a password

spaceballs?

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#5 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

not on consoles

dude I'm desperate and I know many Steam accounts has been hacked too.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Steam+Account+Hacked

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#6 Posted by MonsieurX (36771 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:
@lostrib said:

perhaps don't use 12345 as a password

spaceballs?

What else?

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#7 Edited by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@MonsieurX said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@lostrib said:

perhaps don't use 12345 as a password

spaceballs?

What else?

pizza the hutt? may the scwartz be with you? and possibly my very favourite line from the movie

"WHATS THE MATTER COLONEL SANDERS? CHICKEN?"

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#8 Posted by lostrib (49999 posts) -

@MonsieurX said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@lostrib said:

perhaps don't use 12345 as a password

spaceballs?

What else?

Lol

That's the kind of thing an idiot would have on his luggage

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#9 Edited by lundy86_4 (48583 posts) -

Thread thoroughly derailed lol.

I did respond to you in the lounge though, TC. Still, if you are Puerto Rican, how come you can't spell it right?

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#10 Posted by Roler42 (1067 posts) -

3 years with my steam account, same password and same e-mail, no hacks

11 years with the same e-mail, no hacks

You should start considering what kind of places you browse on the internet and what kind of people you are hanging out with online if you are getting hacked so easily

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#11 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -

@lostrib: haha. great movie. "AND CHANGE THE COMBINATION ON MY LUGGAGE"

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#12 Posted by ghostwarrior786 (5811 posts) -

i dont understand, they hacked your account, changed details so u cant access ur account anymore, then u ring up sony who dont believe u, is this correct?

@lundy86_4 said:

Thread thoroughly derailed lol.

I did respond to you in the lounge though, TC. Still, if you are Puerto Rican, how come you can't spell it right?

english isnt his first language? maybe

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#13 Posted by pyro1245 (3207 posts) -

So? Someone broke into my house a few weeks ago and stole my ps3 and games? I wasn't able to get them back either.

To answer your question: I much prefer a digital collection. To be honest though I'm getting sick of consoles with their non-backwards-compatible, make-you-pay-for-games-multiple-times attitude. I'm mostly gaming on PC these days and a digital collection makes much more sense. As account security is important in all things, I try to have a phone number associated with any accounts I could not bear to lose control of. That way if anyone tries to change my information I will have to confirm with a code I get via text. I don't think Sony offers phone confirmations, but they definitely should. ...that and I have all the game data saved to my computer.

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#14 Posted by blackace (23576 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

just got my account hacked again in less than 3 days and whoever did it changed all my profile info (except for my birthdate because that one can't be changed) and now those bastards at Sony think I'm lying. I give them my info and they say it's incorrect... Of-course it's incorrect you idiots, the account was fucking hacked, don't you see the name? Who the hell is Fhara Mahad? Of-course is not me I'm freaking Puertorrican goddammit!

Then they ask for the serial number of my original PS3 and I'm like, dude, that thing went YLOD like 4 years ago, what else can I do? And you know what those bastards tell me? That they can't do anything about it... WHAT?! Hundreds of dollars in digital games all fucking gone because the PSN security it's as ASS as it gets because I know it's not my fault because after the first reset 2 days ago I changed EMAIL and PASSWORDS but it got hacked again just as easily.

After hearing my story and in hopes of my topic not getting locked, do you guys really think that gaming going all digital is worth all this crap?

LMAO!! Greatness Await!!

http://www.quickmeme.com/img/ed/ed33ec53a9837af05c901d309f47447d7f54a4e19ecfdf25e399ee222ae96fe5.jpg

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#15 Posted by donalbane (16383 posts) -

If you got hacked, don't blame digital distribution.

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#16 Edited by SolidTy (49991 posts) -

I would never go all digital on consoles ever, unless I had no choice...but then I might also consider not buying consoles at all at that point.

Besides being a collector, I also value being able to sell, trade, borrow, lend, and rent games.

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#17 Edited by lundy86_4 (48583 posts) -

@ghostwarrior786 said:

english isnt his first language? maybe

Spanish and English are their languages. Still, it was misspelled in both languages.

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#18 Posted by CrownKingArthur (5262 posts) -
@lundy86_4 said:

@ghostwarrior786 said:

english isnt his first language? maybe

Spanish and English are their languages. Still, it was spelled correctly in Spanish, so that's my bad.

to be fair to you Lundy - nobody expects a spanish inquisition.

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#19 Edited by lundy86_4 (48583 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:

to be fair to you Lundy - nobody expects a spanish inquisition.

Hey-oh.

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#20 Posted by getyeryayasout (11458 posts) -

Hacked twice in less than a week?! Man, that blows. Did they use the same name the second time as the first? Does it seem like it's the same person? Is your console modded, have you been up to any 'funny business'? (I'm not making accusations, just curious.)

Anyway, on topic, it seems like an all digital is good for ISP's and hackers, apparently. Hope you get this straightened out, keep us posted.

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#21 Edited by dr_jashugan (2665 posts) -

@CrownKingArthur said:
@MonsieurX said:

@CrownKingArthur said:
@lostrib said:

perhaps don't use 12345 as a password

spaceballs?

What else?

pizza the hutt? may the scwartz be with you? and possibly my very favourite line from the movie

"WHATS THE MATTER COLONEL SANDERS? CHICKEN?"

There is a better one:

DO SOMETHING!

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#22 Edited by MBirdy88 (12135 posts) -

What has your account security failings have to do with the risks of digital only games?

It would be like me saying "OH NO, I left a window open and some chav stole my console and games! SHOULD GAMES REALLY BE PHYSICAL?!"

If you got hacked again, you are compromised in another form like I said the damn first time.... did you format whatever device you use to look at email? I bet you didn't... I bet you just recovered the PSN account and thought "phew... thye can't possible do it again" ... seriously man?

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#23 Posted by Gue1 (12171 posts) -

man, I'm even afraid of making a new account and start over because what if the same thing happens again? More games and money lost... My only option left is to learn how to hack accounts and try to hack my account back to me.

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#24 Edited by lawlessx (48753 posts) -

You mean to tell me you sony doesn't have any real counter measures against this sort of thing? thats fucking terrible for a corp like sony if that's true

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#26 Posted by JangoWuzHere (19032 posts) -

Why don't you try contacting them again instead of making a hissy fit about the whole thing? There are far more possibilities of losing your games in the physical world instead of digital.

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#27 Edited by Cloud_imperium (14291 posts) -

So basically Sony's customer service suck .

The games you download from steam are all on your Hard Disk . Even if you somehow loose your account , the only thing that those games are missing is .exe , you can get that from internet and you won't even need steam to play games .

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#29 Posted by jun_aka_pekto (22299 posts) -

Oh well. Some guys have all the luck. I've had Steam since HL2 first released. No hacking yet.

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#30 Posted by Demonjoe93 (9869 posts) -

Aw, dude, that sucks. :/

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#31 Posted by aroxx_ab (13236 posts) -

So what do you guys like those game-sites that want you to link your PSN account to their web page, like that Infamous 2nd Son site to access DLC?

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#32 Edited by AM-Gamer (8116 posts) -

@Gue1: If someone is hacking you they are not getting your information from PSN. Think carefully if you let anyone know your password or if you did one that was obvious.

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#33 Edited by CroidX (1555 posts) -

It could be someone you might have had some interaction with online perhaps maybe a person on your friendlist that you don't really know. And possible unsecured websites you are visiting that have things like viruses and etc.

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#34 Posted by mems_1224 (56914 posts) -

You get what you pay for. Sony is awesome at getting hacked.

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#35 Edited by gago-gago (12009 posts) -

Wait so there's no way you can get your PSN account back? Thats suck. PSN is more prone in getting hacked. I can't imagine how much worse it will be when they introduce PS Now and whatever that rental service will be. After PSN was crippled on the PS3, it's ridiculous they still didn't fix their shit and make it more hacker resistant like Xbox Live. Why did they even charge for that PSN crap anyway is beyond me.

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#36 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1238 posts) -

I used to hack ModernWarfare 2 for the last Prestige... Since i got bored of it and wanted That shiny rotating symbol.

PS3 was easy to fool. And so far it seems PS4 network security is beyond joke.

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#37 Edited by BloodyTides (239 posts) -

Tt might be someone that you met like a person on PSN who you befriended or you accidentally posted some sensitive information online without releasing it. Who knows like someone said it could be the website you visit you never know.

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#38 Edited by -ParaNormaN- (1448 posts) -

Dude, I've never been hacked in my 13 year digital life. Start making long passwords that only you can think of. Like, IamthelawXmegaROCKZer0n3twork

I would also suggest making a new email strictly for games and keep your bank and personal information in another email address. That way if the gaming one gets hacked, you aren't screwed for other more important things. That's what I do.

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#39 Edited by Opus_Rea-333 (1238 posts) -

@-paranorman- said:

Dude, I've never been hacked in my 13 year digital life. Start making long passwords that only you can think of. Like, IamthelawXmegaROCKZer0n3twork

I would also suggest making a new email strictly for games and keep your bank and personal information in another email address. That way if the gaming one gets hacked, you aren't screwed for other more important things. That's what I do.

Take this dude advice, Gue1 it definitely helps.

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#40 Posted by Ghost120x (5229 posts) -

Same thing happened to me on Xbox 360. Luckily, I hacked and got my account back from the fucker. Only thing I lost was all my friends. I can't remember all the extra numbers and x's in their names to find them again. :(

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#41 Posted by Glitter (355 posts) -

I am not surprised that Sony thought you were lying, companies operate like that and even if they believed you, they probably still would have told you that there was nothing they could do; as there is no way to prove anything, but there would be if they were smart enough to have a system to keep record of stuff that was changed; such as email address, real name. I agree, going all digital is not the answer, as many will ruin it for others like what happened here. I guess if I decided to get a PS4, I will not have an Online ID, unless it is for online multi-player and nothing else. Sony should have something like a 2 step verification process for PSN accounts; but I do not see this happening or people will not use it.

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#42 Posted by getyeryayasout (11458 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

man, I'm even afraid of making a new account and start over because what if the same thing happens again? More games and money lost... My only option left is to learn how to hack accounts and try to hack my account back to me.

Hackee becomes the hacker. Master and commander, I dig it. From an acorn, and oak. Kick their ass Seabass.

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#43 Edited by EducatingU_PCMR (1550 posts) -

A friend of mine actually got it worse, he got hacked, called those fuckers ("support") and they gave him the account back, but then realized all his digital purchases were gone.

Calls them back and he's told that since he bought all the stuff outside of the region of supposed residence (he's not from the US) they'd have to ban his account for infringement of the ToS.

Lost like $1000 in digital shit.

And please, use non-stupid passwords.

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#44 Posted by gameofthering (11100 posts) -

The most I've had happen to me is, getting an e-mail stating that I wanted to change my password when I didn't. My Steam password is so complex and random I need to look at it on the piece of paper it's written on. An example of what it's like "Ag4SSS3nb76HG34nbJhG23"

I'm not taking a chance with my Steam account :P

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#45 Edited by sts106mat (24167 posts) -

@Gue1 said:

just got my account hacked again in less than 3 days and whoever did it changed all my profile info (except for my birthdate because that one can't be changed) and now those bastards at Sony think I'm lying. I give them my info and they say it's incorrect... Of-course it's incorrect you idiots, the account was fucking hacked, don't you see the name? Who the hell is Fhara Mahad? Of-course is not me I'm freaking Puertorrican goddammit!

Then they ask for the serial number of my original PS3 and I'm like, dude, that thing went YLOD like 4 years ago, what else can I do? And you know what those bastards tell me? That they can't do anything about it... WHAT?! Hundreds of dollars in digital games all fucking gone because the PSN security it's as ASS as it gets because I know it's not my fault because after the first reset 2 days ago I changed EMAIL and PASSWORDS but it got hacked again just as easily.

After hearing my story and in hopes of my topic not getting locked, do you guys really think that gaming going all digital is worth all this crap?

you have probably been signing up for other stuff on websites (that are dodgy, without realising) and someone now has access to your email account(s).

I am sorry you lost all your stuff bud.

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#46 Edited by SexyJazzCat (2775 posts) -

Lol. If anything Digital makes it all the more easier to recover your account.

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#47 Edited by Gaming-Planet (18651 posts) -

I put a condom on my modem so I'm safe.

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#48 Edited by HalcyonScarlet (7926 posts) -

TC, make complex passwords for your email account and your PSN account and make the answers to your security questions on both, different complex passwords.

I'm sorry to hear about your games. I'm surprised you're sticking with Sony. When I got Half Life 2 at launch, I didn't play it and I lent it to my brother only to find out it became bound to his account, I was PISSED THE **** OFF. It took me a heck of a long time before I started using steam again after that.

I know herms like to lay into ME for that, but they have to remember, locking licences to an account was a new concept back then. And it's not up to me to have to research that shit. I'm the end consumer, they make it, I buy and play it. And I'm not an asshole, if someone wants to borrow a game I'm not playing, I'm not used to having to say "no, it's bound to my account" like a fucking nerd.

And after the latest shit with MS and Kinect, I'm kinda put off them too. Now if I lost a shit ton of games, I'd throw the fucking thing out of the window, but that's just me.

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#49 Edited by HitmanActual (834 posts) -

That seriously sucks ass and TC has every right to be pissed. Not sure what I would do.

Would probably spit the dummy and go to the opposition just out of spite (although being forced to have the Xboner as your only console is a punishment in itself).

One thing I would do is not give up easily. Keep on Sony's ass and keep demanding to speak to someone higher up. Quite often if you talk to the right person these things can be fixed quite easily.

The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

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#50 Posted by HalcyonScarlet (7926 posts) -
@EducatingU_PCMR said:

A friend of mine actually got it worse, he got hacked, called those fuckers ("support") and they gave him the account back, but then realized all his digital purchases were gone.

Calls them back and he's told that since he bought all the stuff outside of the region of supposed residence (he's not from the US) they'd have to ban his account for infringement of the ToS.

Lost like $1000 in digital shit.

And please, use non-stupid passwords.

**** man. What platform was this?