AMD is now officially new king of PC gaming.

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#1  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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Both in a terms of CPU and GPU

RIP intel. and RIP Nvidia for having toooo high price.

I mean AMD ryzen 4 is equvialant of i7 7th generation yet it has half of price compare to i7.

RX580 is better than GTX 1060 yet 1060 cost high. even not much difference between GTX 1070 and Rx 580.

both in a terms of price and and in terms of performance. AMD becomes new king.

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#2 Juub1990
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So it’s the king despite the smaller market share in both.

The 1060 is from 2016. What are you on?

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#3 Ghosts4ever
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@Juub1990 said:

So it’s the king despite the smaller market share in both.

The 1060 is from 2016. What are you on?

1060 price is still waay too high.

Rx 580 crap all over it in performance and also price.

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#4  Edited By Juub1990
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@ghosts4ever: Because these are the only cards on the market? Stop making shitty threads.

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#5 Ghosts4ever
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@ghosts4ever: Because these are the only cards on the market? Stop making shitty threads.

2070 is incredibly expensive. so is 2080ti.

you dont need these to max out any game. Rx 580 max out Metro Exodus.

what intel and nvidia doing is. looting there customers.

comparing AMD to nvidia is like comparing a rich spoilt kid to talented kid.

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@Juub1990: Yeah he's not really helping his case with AMD in the GPU market. The GTX 1060 is a year older than the RX 580 and two years older than the RX 590 it'd be pretty pathetic for both of them to not have better performance at the same price range and being newer. Even then the performance difference isn't even that big.

Meanwhile in current year AMD's RX 5000 cards barely beat Nvidia's RTX cards at the same price range in normal rasterization but with ray tracing it immediately goes to Nvidia's RTX cards in having much better performance so you're technically getting a much better deal for your dollar with Nvidia RTX cards if you intend on playing games with ray tracing enabled.

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#7 Juub1990
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@ghosts4ever: Lol. The trolling got old a long time ago.

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#8  Edited By uninspiredcup
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I'll stick to my Cyrix.

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#9 Ghosts4ever
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@NoodleFighter said:

@Juub1990: Yeah he's not really helping his case with AMD in the GPU market. The GTX 1060 is a year older than the RX 580 and two years older than the RX 590 it'd be pretty pathetic for both of them to not have better performance at the same price range and being newer. Even then the performance difference isn't even that big.

this doesnot matter as 1060 is still more expensive than RX 580!! and difference between 1070 and Rx 580 is very minimum.

performance diff is not that big but price also matter and its significant difference.

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#10  Edited By DaVillain-  Moderator
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As a Ryzen 2700X owner, even I know better AMD is not king! As much as I hate the pricing bullshit Nvidia is doing right now, I still prefer their cards. Nvidia just has better Drivers and more bells and whistles and my RTX 2070 is doing me favors then I can ask for.

@ghosts4ever said:
@Juub1990 said:

@ghosts4ever: Because these are the only cards on the market? Stop making shitty threads.

2070 is incredibly expensive. so is 2080ti.

LOL don't make me laugh. You buy what you really need and what resolution you are targeting.

  • RTX 2080Ti=4K/60fps only
  • RTX 2070= (super) 1440p

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#11 Juub1990
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@davillain- said:

As a Ryzen 2700X owner, even I know better AMD is not king! As much as I hate the pricing bullshit Nvidia is doing right now, I still prefer their cards. Nvidia just has better Drivers and more bells and whistles and my RTX 2070 is doing me favors then I can ask for.

LOL don't make me laugh. You buy what you really need and what resolution you are targeting.

  • RTX 2080Ti=4K/60fps only
  • RTX 2070= (super) 1440p

He's trolling.

"You don't need that. RX 580 can max out Metro Exodus at 1080p! What else do you need?"

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@davillain- said:

As a Ryzen 2700X owner, even I know better AMD is not king! As much as I hate the pricing bullshit Nvidia is doing right now, I still prefer their cards. Nvidia just has better Drivers and more bells and whistles and my RTX 2070 is doing me favors then I can ask for.

@ghosts4ever said:
@Juub1990 said:

@ghosts4ever: Because these are the only cards on the market? Stop making shitty threads.

2070 is incredibly expensive. so is 2080ti.

LOL don't make me laugh. You buy what you really need and what resolution you are targeting.

  • RTX 2080Ti=4K/60fps only
  • RTX 2070= (super) 1440p

But their price are waaayy too high. even 1060 price is too high let alone 2000 series.

1060 is beyond Rx 580 and is equivalent to Rx 570 which is far cheaper.

i was about to get 1070. but then i make my decision to get Rx 580 8 GB which on lesser price.

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#13 DaVillain-  Moderator
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@Juub1990: Ghost isn't trying with this thread at all. I'm just telling him there are ways to not buy higher GPU for what you really need. RX 580 is good, not denying that.

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#14 Juub1990
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@ghosts4ever said:

But their price are waaayy too high. even 1060 price is too high let alone 2000 series.

1060 is beyond Rx 580 and is equivalent to Rx 570 which is far cheaper.

i was about to get 1070. but then i make my decision to get Rx 580 8 GB which on lesser price.

And if I wanna game at 4K or 1440p/120fps?

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@ghosts4ever: The GTX 1660 which has the same MSRP as the RX 580 outperforms it

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Only females use AMD.

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#17 djoffer
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Lol I got my 1070 3-4 years ago, how is that relevant for a discussion on who is gpu

King??!

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I'll agree with you about CPU.

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@phbz said:

Only females use AMD.

That's true. Now we finally have the proof that Ghosts4ever is in fact female. Maybe that's why she tries to compensate by only playing games that she thinks are manly.

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#20 thehig1
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Dont really pay attention to whos winning, I just buy which ever gives me the best performance for the budget I have.

That was AMD this time around for both CPU and GPU, got a Ryzen 7 2700 and a vega 56 for way less than anything equivalent by intel and nvidia.

What I forgot about is I can no longer use game stream to my nvidia shield, so I'll keep my old system for that.

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#21  Edited By GoldenElementXL  Online
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AMD CPUs are competitive here and there. But in the GPU arena it’s not even close. Especially if you game at 1440p+ or 144fps. AMD has been wasting our time there. TC seems to have forgotten the existence of the 1070, 1070ti, 1080, 1080ti, 1660, 1660ti, 2060, 2060 super, 2070, 2070 super, 2080 and 2080ti. All better than that garbage they’re hyping in the OP.

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@goldenelementxl said:

AMD CPUs are competitive here and there. But in the GPU arena it’s not even close. Especially if you game at 1440p+ or 144fps. AMD has been wasting our time there. TC seems to have forgotten the existence of the 1070, 1070ti, 1080, 1080ti, 1660, 1660ti, 2060, 2060 super, 2070, 2070 super, 2080 and 2080ti. All better than that garbage their hyping in the OP.

Thank you Super Sonic.

AMD Ryzen CPU is were it's at, they just suck on the higher-end GPU and I try not to be Nvidia fanboy but I always go for the top-notch GPU and Nvidia just happens to have what I need.

  • CPU-AMD Ryzen
  • GPU-Nvidia only.
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#23  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@goldenelementxl said:

AMD CPUs are competitive here and there. But in the GPU arena it’s not even close. Especially if you game at 1440p+ or 144fps. AMD has been wasting our time there. TC seems to have forgotten the existence of the 1070, 1070ti, 1080, 1080ti, 1660, 1660ti, 2060, 2060 super, 2070, 2070 super, 2080 and 2080ti. All better than that garbage their hyping in the OP.

and they are all cost much higher than Rx series. performance wise. very very little. unless its 2080 ti.

but Rx vega series also exist.

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#24  Edited By GoldenElementXL  Online
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@ghosts4ever: Well if something is better it should cost more. Blame AMD for the high GPU costs. If AMD could competed, prices would be lower. And very little performance gain? You need help

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#25  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@ghosts4ever: Well if something is better it should cost more. Blame AMD for the high GPU costs. If AMD could competed, prices would be lower. And very little performance gain? You need help

1060 worse than rx 580 in literally every way. it cost 1/4 more.

1070 is little bit slighly better than rx 580. it cost more half.

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@ghosts4ever: What year is it? Who is buying either of these cards in 2019?

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#27  Edited By Ghosts4ever
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@ghosts4ever: What year is it? Who is buying either of these cards in 2019?

these cards run 2019 games very fine. so?

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@ghosts4ever: Well one card runs those games about 20fps faster than the other...

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#29  Edited By Fedor
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@ghosts4ever: 1070 kills the 580, not even close. Don't you still run a 2gb 960?

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#30 Ghosts4ever
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@ghosts4ever: 1070 kills the 580, not even close. Don't You still run a 2gb 960?

not anymore. i was about to get 1070 and almost ordered it but then i went with rx 580 after comparision and price are half.

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#31 Fedor
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@ghosts4ever: Congrats on the new GPU. Is this a purchase validation thread then?

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#32  Edited By AJStyles
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@phbz: Females don’t play hardcore PC games or own expensive rigs. They own average PC’s and play The Sims or maybe the occasional WoW/MMO nerd which doesn’t require a good PC.

The guys who buy AMD are beta’s filled with soy.

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This thread makes sense now...

Stupid

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AMD, Intel, Nvidia..... PC is king. That is all that matters.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@fedor said:

@ghosts4ever: 1070 kills the 580, not even close. Don't You still run a 2gb 960?

not anymore. i was about to get 1070 and almost ordered it but then i went with rx 580 after comparision and price are half.

Lets ignore the fact that the GTX 1070 is over 3 years old, about 25% faster than RX 580 and hasn't been produced in almost a year. Of course its going to be more expensive.... For the price RX 580 is a good deal when Nvidia's GTX 1660 is $40 more and is only around 10% faster.

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@Juub1990 said:

@ghosts4ever: Because these are the only cards on the market? Stop making shitty threads.

Lol... it's not like Ghosts to make a sh*tty thread where he claims that everything he likes/owns is the best and everyone else is wrong/the more popular items are sh*t. LMAO.

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Amd cpu's are king tho :P

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@hrt_rulz01 said:
@Juub1990 said:

@ghosts4ever: Because these are the only cards on the market? Stop making shitty threads.

Lol... it's not like Ghosts to make a sh*tty thread where he claims that everything he likes/owns is the best and everyone else is wrong/the more popular items are sh*t. LMAO.

I didnot own amd processor. will get it at some point but that doesnot change the fact that they are killing it.

some years ago thier CPU were nothing but now after launch of ryzen they become CPU king.

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@Bikouchu35: Intel still makes the best gaming CPU. And I’m not intel fanboy. I’ve been 100% Ryzen since Ryzen has been a thing. Facts are facts

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#40  Edited By Gatygun
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@Juub1990 said:
@davillain- said:

As a Ryzen 2700X owner, even I know better AMD is not king! As much as I hate the pricing bullshit Nvidia is doing right now, I still prefer their cards. Nvidia just has better Drivers and more bells and whistles and my RTX 2070 is doing me favors then I can ask for.

LOL don't make me laugh. You buy what you really need and what resolution you are targeting.

  • RTX 2080Ti=4K/60fps only
  • RTX 2070= (super) 1440p

He's trolling.

"You don't need that. RX 580 can max out Metro Exodus at 1080p! What else do you need?"

Lol nope, u aint maxing shit with a 580 in metro exodus

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As far as CPUs go, I cannot recommend an Intel CPU for pretty much anything - and this is coming from someone with a 8600K OC at 4.8GHz - the frame times on i5s make them frustrating at times for gaming! At every price point, AMD is offering a more well rounded CPU and often better overall; especially the 3600 and the 3900 price points. If you want maybe 5 more fps a the same price for less than half the multithreaded power and a poor scheduler that basically removes streaming from your options, sure, than go for an Intel processor.

For GPUs, the 5700/XT are better price to performance wise, but that is only one area in mid range. Nvidia has high end GPUs that are still unchallenged.

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#42  Edited By IvanGrozny
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Gtx1060 is a quite low end video card. If anything, AMD is a king of budget gaming

No seriously, hyping 1060 equivalent in 2019 is kinda dumb.

My 6 core I7 from 2014 is still kicking the shit out of 90% AMD cpus?

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You often see prior-release GPUs catapult into ridiculous prices once new gens release, or manufacturing is stopped. I was transitioning from my 1070 and I was looking between the RTX line and a 1080ti... I grabbed the RTX 2080, and not long after the 1080ti prices blew out of proportion to thousands of dollars. At the end of the day... Shut up.

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@goldenelementxl said:

@Bikouchu35: Intel still makes the best gaming CPU. And I’m not intel fanboy. I’ve been 100% Ryzen since Ryzen has been a thing. Facts are facts

Its within margin error for a lot of games and in practicality sense ryzen is the better choice anyway. I'm assuming this is a sh*t posting thread anyway, so I shall add on to this.

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#45  Edited By mrbojangles25
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AMD is, and always has been, the better budget option. Either way you go, there are plenty of good options.

With all that said, if you want the best performance, you still go with an Intel and Nvidia combo. Period.

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#46  Edited By Gatygun
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Best budget performance cpu = 3600 atm, 200 bucks cheap mobo and done for your average joe.

Best CPU is a 9900k for gaming

Best CPU for rendering/video editing/streaming = Intel i9 9980XE

Best GPU 2080 ti

Best budget GPU 2060s/5700 if you can deal with AMD jank.

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@ghosts4ever said:
@Juub1990 said:

@ghosts4ever: Because these are the only cards on the market? Stop making shitty threads.

2070 is incredibly expensive. so is 2080ti.

you dont need these to max out any game. Rx 580 max out Metro Exodus.

what intel and nvidia doing is. looting there customers.

comparing AMD to nvidia is like comparing a rich spoilt kid to talented kid.

If Nvidia has better cards then that means that AMD isn't the king. You get what you pay for.

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@Bikouchu35 said:

Amd cpu's are king tho :P

I'll only ever buy CPUs from AMD. They're just not pushing it on the GPU front. I guess they're fine with soaking up console money.