Aliens: Colonial Marines marketed with fake gameplay demo walkthroughs

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#1 runbleduck
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo&feature=youtu.be

 

Sick and tired of fanboys always referencing fake gameplay videos to hype games. The above video is pretty damning and confirmed that such gameplay videos / developer walkthroughs are nothing more than elaborate smoke & mirror CGI scripted videos posing as actual gameplay. This con is used by other games such as Prey 2, Bioshock Infinite, and Tomb Raider as well. 

 

 

Here's the original fake gameplay walkthrough where the President of Gearbox kept lying through his teeth: 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBIpUEjFFHA

Randy Pitchfork: "you're gonna see what the game actually looks like ... not just screenshots but the actual gameplay."

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#2 MFDOOM1983
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Meh. I remember spotting several differences between the OPM demo and final game of syphon filter back in the day. Early demos are rarely representative of the final game.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3z2qVebxlUo&feature=youtu.be

 

Sick and tired of fanboys always referencing fake gameplay videos to hype games. The above video is pretty damning and confirmed that such gameplay videos / developer walkthroughs are nothing more than elaborate smoke & mirror CGI scripted videos posing as actual gameplay. This con is used by other games such as Prey 2, Bioshock Infinite, and Tomb Raider as well. 

runbleduck
Yep, and that's why it's scoring so poorly. And if anyone is not scoring was it deserves, they're either being paid off by Gearbox, a blind fanboy, or unaware of what happened to the game.
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#5 bobbetybob
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This is pretty disgraceful BUT some of your other examples are crappy, there's a difference between someone playing a game a certain way and showing you all the right stuff at the right moment like in Bioshock, Tomb Raider and most other gameplay demos, and the final game actually looking completely different like in the case of Aliens (and probably Prey 2).
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#6 pelvist
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I remember when Sion Lenton was demoing Dragon Rising and showing us how the games is going to be, look how that turned out. Dragon Rising is the reason i dont preorder multiplats anymore.

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Seems they started the game to take advantage of PC hardware then after those demos were made decided they won't be able to fit it onto console hardware and scaled it all down in terms of what they had going on in scenes and which effects they had and their quality.

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#8 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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I get why they did it, but when your final game looks considerably worse, it's just a bad idea. It will do nothing but give a huge backlash. It's sad to see the state this game is in because it could have been really really good. 

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Seems they started the game to take advantage of PC hardware then after those demos were made decided they won't be able to fit it onto console hardware and scaled it all down in terms of what they had going on in scenes and which effects they had and their quality.

-Unreal-
Pretty much, and then they threw out that build-took the console version and polished it up a little to make it look a little bit better on the PC.
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#10 Grey_Eyed_Elf
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I wanted that game... :(.
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#11 Thefatness16
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Lol, now Gearbox is being accused of stealing money from Aliens CM, to fund Borderlands 2. What a shady ass company.

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#12 HaloinventedFPS
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Watch Dogs.... hmm

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#13 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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Watch Dogs.... hmm

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I really hope that's not the case. Cos that demo was mind blowing.

MGS:GZ might pull this trick though

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#14 runbleduck
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This is pretty disgraceful BUT some of your other examples are crappy, there's a difference between someone playing a game a certain way and showing you all the right stuff at the right moment like in Bioshock, Tomb Raider and most other gameplay demos, and the final game actually looking completely different like in the case of Aliens (and probably Prey 2).bobbetybob
How would you know if they weren't "pretending" to play over the fake gameplay videos? We've already seen this with a bunch of kinect games, including the infamous Milo.
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#15 GD1551
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Gearbox should be sued for this, this type of behaviour should not be tolerated in any industry.

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#16 k2theswiss
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that is just sad...
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#17 com2006
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Well something went wrong, why what looked liked a great game in the demo would they decide to put in low res textures and poor animations in the final game? Is this down to them having to put it on very old systems like the PS3 and 360?
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#18 k2theswiss
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that better comparision video then i seen yesterday. REALLY anyone bought game i would be requesting a refund to the max.
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#19 ReadingRainbow4
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That's rather disgusting, the final game looks like Anus.

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Seems they started the game to take advantage of PC hardware then after those demos were made decided they won't be able to fit it onto console hardware and scaled it all down in terms of what they had going on in scenes and which effects they had and their quality.

-Unreal-
there is 100's of games that look better then that trash on console
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Seems they started the game to take advantage of PC hardware then after those demos were made decided they won't be able to fit it onto console hardware and scaled it all down in terms of what they had going on in scenes and which effects they had and their quality.

-Unreal-
there is 100's of games that look better then that trash on console
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#22 com2006
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[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

Seems they started the game to take advantage of PC hardware then after those demos were made decided they won't be able to fit it onto console hardware and scaled it all down in terms of what they had going on in scenes and which effects they had and their quality.

k2theswiss
there is 100's of games that look better then that trash on console

It is down to the time frame they had, so they may have had it running good on PC but it isn't just easy to port a game from PC to 360/PS3 without drastically killing the game. The game had it been coded for 360/PS3 from the start would obviously had looked better... Code has to be so efficient for them to draw every bit of power out the ancient hardware, while with PC you don't have to be so careful. PC games have been gimped by consoles for a few years now.
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#24 Mrmedia01
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This game sucks, end of thread.:D

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#25 Heil68
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That is sad. I canceled my order last night.
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#26 silversix_
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WiiU's fault obviously. But seriously, this is when you can say wow that's a bigass difference. I hope this game sells under 300k
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#27 deactivated-59b71619573a1
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That is sad. I canceled my order last night. Heil68

Imagine if you had actually spent all thatmoney on the CE :? 

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[QUOTE="Heil68"]That is sad. I canceled my order last night. seanmcloughlin

Imagine if you had actually spent all thatmoney on the CE :? 

I was so tempted. Moved the money to MGS:Revengeance/
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#29 Heil68
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[QUOTE="Heil68"]That is sad. I canceled my order last night. seanmcloughlin

Imagine if you had actually spent all thatmoney on the CE :? 

I wanted that statue though, it was so cool. :P
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#30 biggest_loser
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I hope people complaining after buying it actually watched some of the game play videos that were released closer to the release date. It was obvious from those that this was going to be a flop.
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#31 Michael0134567
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Final looks better.

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#32 DarkLink77
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Apparently when Timegate co-developed the campaign they f*cked up a lot of stuff.

But that's just hearsay.

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Got the game next to me here unopened.
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#34 ReadingRainbow4
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Got the game next to me here unopened.carlisledavid79

make use of that receipt.

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#35 Icarian
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Meh. I remember spotting several differences between the OPM demo and final game of syphon filter back in the day. Early demos are rarely representative of the final game.MFDOOM1983

Usually the end product is better than the demo. Now it seems that the demo was actually better than the final game. 

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#36 Michael0134567
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Got the game next to me here unopened.carlisledavid79

I'll gladly take it if you don't want it.

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#37 kozzy1234
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This is almost as bad as WARZ lying and false gameplay/screenshots.

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#38 wis3boi
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Looks like they used Adobe After Effects all over the demo footage

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#39 Salt_The_Fries
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Happens all the time and harkens back to the days of Halo 2...But in this case what we eventually got and what was shown before...The difference is colossal in its quality!!! BTW, when talking about Gearbox, don't forget this early 2006 demo of Hell's Highway and the features that didn't end up in the game as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AG9Re6Jb4AQ BTW, the cocaine lord Randy Pitchford is playing the game in this video ^
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#40 Salt_The_Fries
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I will get a free copy of it from my journalist friend next week btw.
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Reminds me of the old footage of Metal Gear Rising with its slick visuals and fluid animations, then I played the reveangance demo and thought it looked like a ps2 game.

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#42 Fizzman
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Demo version looks good, but it's still nothing to write home about.

Final version looks like dog ****.  

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#43 Master_ShakeXXX
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How embarrassing.

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#44 BPoole96
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This is ridiculous. I am ashamed of Gearbox

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#45 Rocker6
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What the hell? :?

In the demo, that part when you're looking through the window at the planet looks awesome and atmospheric, yet looks so plain and dull in the final game.

How can this be allowed, excessive bullshoting or pulling out crap like this should be illegal, it's false advertising with some bait and switch added on top. They should get sued for this!

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#46 LordQuorthon
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Sega hates youtube playthroughs, Sega loves youtube playthroughs, Sega hates youtube playthroughs, Sega loves youtube playthroughs... Fun times. Fun times indeed. 

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#47 Michael0134567
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What the hell? :?

In the demo, that part when you're looking through the window at the planet looks awesome and atmospheric, yet looks so plain and dull in the final game.

How can this be allowed, excessive bullshoting or pulling out crap like this should be illegal, it's false advertising with some bait and switch added on top. They should get sued for this!

Rocker6

You mad?

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#48 Rocker6
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[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

What the hell? :?

In the demo, that part when you're looking through the window at the planet looks awesome and atmospheric, yet looks so plain and dull in the final game.

How can this be allowed, excessive bullshoting or pulling out crap like this should be illegal, it's false advertising with some bait and switch added on top. They should get sued for this!

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You mad?

If I had any interest and bought the game... oh yeah, I'd be mad!

Fortunately, it didn't come to that, so I'm just dissapointed seeing cheap tactics like this. But hey, at least the game got hammered by critics and gamers, which most likely implies lackluster sales, and well, they deserve that in full!

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#49 PernicioEnigma
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Meh. I remember spotting several differences between the OPM demo and final game of syphon filter back in the day. Early demos are rarely representative of the final game.MFDOOM1983
Indeed, the final release is usually better...
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#50 Rattlesnake_8
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Meh. I remember spotting several differences between the OPM demo and final game of syphon filter back in the day. Early demos are rarely representative of the final game.PernicioEnigma
Indeed, the final release is usually better...

Exactly.. and to see such a huge BACKWARD leap is strange and raises questions.. it'll be interesting how this will play out and if Gearbox will aknowledge it atall.