Alan Wake 2 is the best looking game released so far this generation | Digital Foundry

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#1 FantasyGamer
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So will they pick AW2 this year as #1 best graphics or is it Spider man 2 ?

https://www.eurogamer.net/digitalfoundry-2023-alan-wake-2-optimised-settings-for-pc

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Yeah, the game really does look great.

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Made in Finlad, a country with a population of 5,5 million… Remarkable!

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Incoming cow meltdown!

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#5 Mozelleple112
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From what I have seen, Alan Wake 2 is looking like the graphics king.

Hopefully people will stop saying RDR2 / CP2077. AW2 is far superior to both.

In my opinion it is between Plague Tale 2 and Alan Wake 2. I'll judge when I max the game out myself on my 4090.

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As I've said in another thread, Alan Wake 2 is definitely the next-gen Crysis given the fact the RTX 4090 almost brought to its knees. My RTX 4070 seems to be handling it well in 1440p with RT/high and using frame generation does give it an edge.

But yep, I'm enjoying Alan Wake 2, this game is a sleeper hit for sure as I wasn't expecting this game to be that fun. But CP2077 is still the king here mainly for its Neon lights in Night City are just awesome, especially when it's been raining and the ground is wet for the reflection. Alan Wake 2 can look good without using pathtracing.

Overall, I think Alan Wake 2 is a graphical game since the good old days of Crysis, and a must play for any PC gamer using RTX 4070 or above 40 series if just for the pathtracing alone. And did I mention, that Alan Wake 2 is a really good game, it's shaping up to be included in my GOTY 2023 list. But sadly, I don't think it manages to beat CP2077 for "the best-looking game so far" and even I can say using pathtracing is much less impressive on a linear game with static levels compared to huge, dense, and dynamic open-worlds such as CP2077. (This also applies to Phantom Liberty)

P.S, I can't comment on Marvel's Spider-Man 2 until it comes to PC, but I can at least say that Miles Morales PC port is slightly good looking but it just doesn't measure up to CP2077. I don't expect Marvel's Spider-Man 2 PC port in the future will be all that, so more the same as what I've seen on PS5.

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A graphics thread with zero pictures. What a shame. SW is dead. If this was my thread, i would unload pics.

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And I still have no interest in playing it.

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Spiderman 2 and Horizon Forbidden West would be my top two.

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#10  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@hardwenzen said:

A graphics thread with zero pictures. What a shame. SW is dead. If this was my thread, i would unload pics.

DF vid is up there, you silly fake Cow.

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#11  Edited By Mozelleple112
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@davillain: To be fair, if for some reason you are not allowed to use frame generation or DLSS there are many games that bring the RTX 4090 to its knees and they all have one thing in common: path tracing.

Portal RTX

Prelude RTX

Quake 2 RTX

Cyberpunk 2077

Alan Wake 2

Am I missing any games that use full path tracing?

I tested myself and in native 4K (or DLAA) with no FG I get 15-30 fps in all those games.

But with DLSS 3.5 FG quality the FPS in all of those games goes up to around 70-75 fps (60-90 fps in gameplay)

AW2 seems to perform exactly the same as the other 4 games on that list, while looking better than all of them.

Then there's City skylines or whatever its called that got sub 30 fps on a 4090. I assume it supports DLSS 3.5 but the reviewers omitted that for the clickbaity title. Not sure if has path tracing or even regular ray tracing.

All though no where near as bad, Dying Light 2 (which I believe as full RT-GI) gets 45 fps at 4K native max but I got between 120-180 fps (with around 160 fps average) with DLSS Quality /FG. 45 fps is unplayable for me so technically DL2 is also brining a 4090 to its knees if we are excluding the DLSS suite.

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#12  Edited By lamprey263
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Better on Xbox Series X than PS5, rock solid performance on Series X while PS5 unable to maintain steady 60fps. Devs decided to go with mesh shaders for the game, giving Xbox an edge as their optimization is design around its use. PS5 was not, rather having an advantage of prim shaders. I guess the issues aren't so much devs not putting the time to optimize their ports, but their choices like this, which route they go and who benefits from optimization could also play a major part. Perhaps this explains a good bit of this gens performance disparities. So far this has worked to Sony's advantage but seems devs want to shift to mesh shaders now. Capcom themselves even signaled this would be a major change in their upcoming engine revision. It was announced a while back Xbox updated tools for this advantage yet nobody jumped on, likely because it would be too burdensome mid-project without changing the engine. Well, seems the time has come, people are jumping on board.

I've seen people assert the game still retains close parity between PS5 and Series X, but the optimization for Series X could give it an uncapped framerate advantage or higher graphic fidelity that can't be exploited due to parity agreements with Sony. Jokes are starting to go around PS5 will hold Xbox back.

Digital Foundry claims they can't do a console head to head because they haven't been given a Xbox review code. Though I suspect as Sony shills they're biding their time hoping patches and updates will level the playing field, not wanting to concede a W to Xbox for a graphic powerhouse.

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#13  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@Mozelleple112 said:

@davillain: To be fair, if for some reason you are not allowed to use frame generation or DLSS there are many games that bring the RTX 4090 to its knees and they all have one thing in common: path tracing.

Portal RTX

Prelude RTX

Quake 2 RTX

Cyberpunk 2077

Alan Wake 2

Am I missing any games that use full path tracing?

I tested myself and in native 4K (or DLAA) with no FG I get 15-30 fps in all those games.

But with DLSS 3.5 FG quality the FPS in all of those games goes up to around 70-75 fps (60-90 fps in gameplay)

AW2 seems to perform exactly the same as the other 4 games on that list, while looking better than all of them.

Then there's City skylines or whatever its called that got sub 30 fps on a 4090. I assume it supports DLSS 3.5 but the reviewers omitted that for the clickbaity title. Not sure if has path tracing or even regular ray tracing.

All though no where near as bad, Dying Light 2 (which I believe as full RT-GI) gets 45 fps at 4K native max but I got between 120-180 fps (with around 160 fps average) with DLSS Quality /FG. 45 fps is unplayable for me so technically DL2 is also brining a 4090 to its knees if we are excluding the DLSS suite.

Everything you said regarding not using DLSS and frame generation can bring down the 4090 games you mentioned above. I played Dying Light 2 on launch and the first problem it had was the memory kept leaking at the time, so I never really went back to play it all this time.

Still, I appreciate PC developers pushing GPUs to the limits and abandoning ancient GPUs, I would rather have futureproof titles if possible. Pathtracing will take a while to fully mature enough it won't strip the GPU power, I can see why Nvidia is trying to get those Supers variants out early into 2024.

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Watched that video and it does look really great. I’ll be grabbing the XSX version myself.

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@davillain said:

DF vid is up there, you silly fake Cow.

Both true.😂

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#16 blamix
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Spiderman 2 looks great but i think Alan Wake 2 wins by a hair. Good comparison would be Alan Wake 2 vs HFW Burning Shores

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Alan wake 2 shattering the cows strange concept they have the best looking and best story driven single player games.

Flight simulator destroys every Sony game on the graphics front and AW2 destroys them on both..

Chin up,you got them sales 😂🤣

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You see the graphical fidelity, and you're INSTANTLY REMINDED HOW MUCH MICROSHAFT HAS FALLEN. It is absolutely insane how far behind Microsoft is nowadays. Honestly, they should retire before 2027 at this point.

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Jacket king.

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Spider-Man 2 is beautiful. I’ll decide Monday after I buy AW2.

But I’m so psyched for this game. As a long time lover of the first and the mystery in it this game is so anticipated by me.

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Cyberpunk is still the king.

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@hardwenzen said:

You see the graphical fidelity, and you're INSTANTLY REMINDED HOW MUCH MICROSHAFT HAS FALLEN. It is absolutely insane how far behind Microsoft is nowadays. Honestly, they should retire before 2027 at this point.

You said 30fps is unplayable. This dev team designed the game around 30fps. Stop being Clown Cow mate.

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@mesome713 said:
@hardwenzen said:

You see the graphical fidelity, and you're INSTANTLY REMINDED HOW MUCH MICROSHAFT HAS FALLEN. It is absolutely insane how far behind Microsoft is nowadays. Honestly, they should retire before 2027 at this point.

You said 30fps is unplayable. This dev team designed the game around 30fps. Stop being Clown Cow mate.

It doesn't matter around what they designed it around. Does the game offer 60fps? Yes it does🤷‍♂️

It is what it is.

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#24  Edited By Mesome713
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@hardwenzen: The game could offer 300fps, it wouldn’t make a difference. It’s still designed for 30fps

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@mesome713 said:

@hardwenzen: The game could offer 300fps, it wouldn’t make a difference. It’s still designed for 30fps

Does that mean that the pc version is also ruined because its designed for 30fps in mind?😎

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@p3anut: ¨¨

No Alan Wake 2 and Plague Tale 2 > CP2077.

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AW2 the new graphics king even with the PS5 holding it back. Incredible. I hope Naugty Dog is taking notes.

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A remarkable great looking game. The PC version is quite scalable as long as your system is modern and supports mesh shaders. Good luck if you don't.

This game doesn't really have a 'potatoe mode' either, 'low' isn't low it seems.

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Best looking game

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The Jacket king will be short lived since Gears 6 visuals are sure to surpass all others. ;o

The Coalition are MasterClass. :P

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Easily the best looking game. Boring as **** so far though.

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"Alan Wake 2" Takes the Crown for Best Graphics in This Generation, According to Digital Foundry

Digital Foundry, renowned for their in-depth analysis of gaming hardware and software, has declared "Alan Wake 2" as the most visually stunning game released so far in this generation. The highly anticipated sequel has set a new standard for graphics, pushing the boundaries of what's possible on the current generation of gaming consoles.

From meticulously crafted environments to lifelike character details, "Alan Wake 2" showcases the capabilities of modern gaming technology. The lighting effects, in particular, have been singled out for praise, creating an immersive and atmospheric experience that adds a layer of depth to the game's narrative.

Digital Foundry's analysis goes beyond just praising the visual fidelity; they delve into the technical aspects, highlighting how "Alan Wake 2" leverages the power of the latest gaming hardware to deliver a seamless and breathtaking gaming experience. The game's art direction, combined with advanced rendering techniques, contributes to its status as the pinnacle of visual excellence in the current gaming landscape.

As players dive into the mysterious world of "Alan Wake 2," <a href="https://tallestly.com/tallest-president-ever/" title="sure" alt="sure">sure</a> they can expect a visual feast that not only enhances gameplay but also sets a new benchmark for what gamers can anticipate from the latest generation of titles. Digital Foundry's endorsement further solidifies "Alan Wake 2" as a must-play for those who appreciate the intersection of cutting-edge technology and captivating storytelling in the gaming world.

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@SecretPolice said:

The Jacket king will be short lived since Gears 6 visuals are sure to surpass all others. ;o

The Coalition are MasterClass. :P

Well that goes without saying.

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I'll say that throughout the first couple of stages, I thought AW2 was impressive, but not past Cyberpunk. However, after getting through the game some more, I definitely think it's a contender for sure.

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Not Spide8man 2?....Damn you digital foundry

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For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

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#37 Heil68
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Looks great!

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#38  Edited By Silentchief
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@kathaariancode said:

AW2 the new graphics king even with the PS5 holding it back. Incredible. I hope Naugty Dog is taking notes.

Nowhere near the graphics king on any console.

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@kvallyx said:

For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

You Xbots are going to have a rough time by the end of next year 🤣🤣

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@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

You Xbots are going to have a rough time by the end of next year 🤣🤣

I don't know about Xbots, but I know us manticores will be living the dream in 2024 like we did in 2023!

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#41 Heil68
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@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

You Xbots are going to have a rough time by the end of next year 🤣🤣

Yeah, we must embrace them as dark days are ahead. :(

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#42  Edited By KvallyX
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@Heil68 said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

You Xbots are going to have a rough time by the end of next year 🤣🤣

Yeah, we must embrace them as dark days are ahead. :(

awwww yeahhhhh

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#43 Pedro
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@kvallyx said:

For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

The PS5 hidden power crew is missing in action.

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#44  Edited By KvallyX
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@SecretPolice said:

The Jacket king will be short lived since Gears 6 visuals are sure to surpass all others. ;o

The Coalition are MasterClass. :P

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@kathaariancode said:

Incoming cow meltdown!

Why?

Is this game an exclusive to the xsx/xss/pc?

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@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

You Xbots are going to have a rough time by the end of next year 🤣🤣

I don't know about Xbots, but I know us manticores will be living the dream in 2024 like we did in 2023!

And there goes you cutting off your light switch.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

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@silentchief said:
@kathaariancode said:

AW2 the new graphics king even with the PS5 holding it back. Incredible. I hope Naugty Dog is taking notes.

Nowhere near the graphics king on any console.

True,MS flight simulator wears that crown,until next years MS flight sim that is 👍

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#48  Edited By ermacness
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@kathaariancode said:

AW2 the new graphics king even with the PS5 holding it back. Incredible. I hope Naugty Dog is taking notes.

Please, most of Sony’s studios are known for top tier visuals. When talking consoles, their games are usually the standard when talking visuals.

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#49 KvallyX
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@ermacness said:
@kvallyx said:
@silentchief said:
@kvallyx said:

For console gamers, best on Xbox that is.

You Xbots are going to have a rough time by the end of next year 🤣🤣

I don't know about Xbots, but I know us manticores will be living the dream in 2024 like we did in 2023!

And there goes you cutting off your light switch.

🤣🤣🤣🤣

I have always abided by honesty is the best policy.

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#50 SargentD
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This game looks like walking simulator 🚶‍♂️ 🚷