According to SW standards, didn't the Wii win last gen?

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#1 SolidGame_basic  Online
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It was the highest selling console and had AAAE franchises like Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, the two Zeldas, Mario Kart, Super Smash Brawl, Xenoblade, etc. So why isn't it revered here? Don't get me wrong, not trying to troll, just we see a lot of PS4 numbers being thrown around and it's already being called the winner of 8th gen by some.

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this is another one of those system wars paradoxes, yeah, wii won the sales battle.

the System War (aka infinity war) persists unabated.

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What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

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#4  Edited By inb4uall
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Yes, the wii won by so much that the cows and lems just fought over second place all generation.

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Wii was a great system.

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It didn't just win, it owned the competition. Masterpiece of a console.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

It was the highest selling console and had AAAE franchises like Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, the two Zeldas, Mario Kart, Super Smash Brawl, Xenoblade, etc. So why isn't it revered here? Don't get me wrong, not trying to troll, just we see a lot of PS4 numbers being thrown around and it's already being called the winner of 8th gen by some.

For hardware & software sales? Yes the Wii won, hands down.

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#8 Dire_Weasel
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According to any metric, the Wii won last generation. This isn't even in doubt.

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I don't think Wii won software sales. It may have had the best selling game or something, but overall game sales died halfway through the generation. That is why at the start of this one Nintendo was already dismissed, and lots of people didn't even notice that there was a difference between the Wii and the U.

If Nintendo has sold a crap ton of games the entire generation, that wouldn't have happened.

That said, why in the name of anything is sales and awards the focus? We are gamers, not board members. If Flower 2 wins game of the year this year, fifty websites agree, and it sells a billion copies no one is going to argue that it won System wars. People are going to roll their eyes at the strolling simulation and go on about their arguments.

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#10  Edited By Floppy_Jim
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Yes it did, in sales. Not the Gamespot metagame although no one ever follows or updates that anymore.

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@SolidGame_basic said:

It was the highest selling console and had AAAE franchises like Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, the two Zeldas, Mario Kart, Super Smash Brawl, Xenoblade, etc. So why isn't it revered here? Don't get me wrong, not trying to troll, just we see a lot of PS4 numbers being thrown around and it's already being called the winner of 8th gen by some.

it won last gen, but it was a lot of non gamers that contributed to that sales number and its hampering ninty now and inadvertently keeping ms from succeeding because they cant let go of the kinect. sony flopped with the move

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#12 hiphops_savior
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Yes, much like King Pyrrhus won the Battle of Auscullum.

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It came last in games in the end though? even if they were good.

system wars is hypocritical.

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@Dire_Weasel said:

According to any metric, the Wii won last generation. This isn't even in doubt.

ANy metric except games, exclusives and library :P

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It's not revered here because 90% of the fanboys here are cows.

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#16  Edited By Jankarcop
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No, PC had the most aaa/aaE and aaa+aa total.

Wii was like 3rd or 4th place in that regard.

Noone uses sales here except troll threads.

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@hiphops_savior said:

Yes, much like King Pyrrhus won the Battle of Auscullum.

lol. I enjoyed the reference.

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Yes

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#19 Heil68
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For console sales yes.

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#20 glez13
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Because according to SW standards PC destroyed the competition. I'm not sure, would need to investigate, but I think that by SW standards Wii was dead last.

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yes

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#22  Edited By cainetao11
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@SolidGame_basic said:

It was the highest selling console and had AAAE franchises like Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, the two Zeldas, Mario Kart, Super Smash Brawl, Xenoblade, etc. So why isn't it revered here? Don't get me wrong, not trying to troll, just we see a lot of PS4 numbers being thrown around and it's already being called the winner of 8th gen by some.

Wiii won, period. More people own a Wii than the other 2. If sales mattered for ps2, and 4, then they do for Wii

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#23  Edited By deactivated-5cd08b1605da1
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uh, and it DID won. Who ever said otherwise?

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#24 Lulu_Lulu
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You think system wars has standards ? HA !

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#25 bulby_g
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Was a great console. Shame about the very sub-par graphics but I had loads of fun with it. Still left mine set up for Gamecube games too.

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#26 aroxx_ab
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But it was a terrible system if you wanted more than Wiisports, Zelda and mario. It didnt get any multiplat except CoD...

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#27 BattleSpectre
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It didn't win, it whooped ass.

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@aroxx_ab said:

But it was a terrible system if you wanted more than Wiisports, Zelda and mario. It didnt get any multiplat except CoD...

Uh, LEGO and Rayman Origins? I have more than Mario, Zelda, and Wii Sports on my Wii.

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#29 Netret0120
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So true LMAO!!

The wii kicked ass in terms of sales but i don't regret choosing my ps3 over it at all as the games appealed to me more.

Same reason I was going to get the PS4 regardless if it was coming last or 1st. It is nice to see your system of choice dominate which is human nature so I can see why we are all excited:-)

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@aroxx_ab said:

But it was a terrible system if you wanted more than Wiisports, Zelda and mario. It didnt get any multiplat except CoD...

Spoken like somebody who didn't bother to look for games. Your loss.

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#31 hippiesanta
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According to Standard and Quality and consumer service ...... PS3 won

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#32 stuff238
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It won in console sales.

It FAILED in every other area like Game quality, Online, Graphics, 3rd party support, and tons more. It also failed to prove that motion controls were better for gaming than normal controls because look where we are now! Nintendo abandoned motion controls for the dumb wii u pad attachment and PS4/xbone still use normal controllers.

The wii is a one trick pony/fad/fluke. Also, there is still hope that the PS3 eventually beats the wii in sales and we can all rejoice.

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For all intents and purposes, the Wii won. It also came at a time where 3rd party support began to be more multiplat focused, which means consoles similar in power will be ensured more support.

Nintendo knew it, and misread it completely when they made the Wii U, which used PowerPC architecture compared to x86, less efficient.

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@MonsieurX said:

What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

can you give me the titles of AAAE on PC pls, from 2006-2013

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#35 j_assassin
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even sw knows the wii won in sales

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Won the first half, then dropped off the face of the earth. History will show gen 7 had no winner, much like gen 4.

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#37  Edited By CrashNBurn281
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The Wii rofl stomped the competition last gen.

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@blamix99 said:

@MonsieurX said:

What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

can you give me the titles of AAAE on PC pls, from 2006-2013

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/?platform=PC&score=desc

World In Conflict

Starcraft II : WoL

Civilization V: Brave New World

Gone Home

WoW: Burning Crusade

Company Of Heroes

Path Of Exile

Shogun 2

Guild Wars 2

Command And Conquer 3

GTR2

Galactic Civilization II: Twilight Of The Arnor

Galactic Civilization II: Dread Lords

Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery EP

Europa Euniversalis IV

Crysis Warhead

The Sims 3

World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Sins of a Solar Empire

And pretty sure I'm missing a few

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ps3 won. most Game of the Year exclusives.

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#41 Chutebox
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It's winning the sales battle for sure

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#42 inggrish
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Yes the Wii won last gen.

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#43 MonsieurX
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@xboxdone74 said:

ps3 won. most Game of the Year exclusives.

Not defined with that.Try again

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Praise Sony! For their continued dedication to the core gamer.

LOL NIntendo.

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#45  Edited By kinectthedots
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@MonsieurX said:

@blamix99 said:

@MonsieurX said:

What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

can you give me the titles of AAAE on PC pls, from 2006-2013

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/?platform=PC&score=desc

World In Conflict

Starcraft II : WoL

Civilization V: Brave New World

Gone Home

WoW: Burning Crusade

Company Of Heroes

Path Of Exile

Shogun 2

Guild Wars 2

Command And Conquer 3

GTR2

Galactic Civilization II: Twilight Of The Arnor

Galactic Civilization II: Dread Lords

Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery EP

Europa Euniversalis IV

Crysis Warhead

The Sims 3

World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Sins of a Solar Empire

And pretty sure I'm missing a few

Go ahaed and list them then, they shouldn't be hard to find knowing it's not that many and so far I see 4 expansions for PC, Damn you guys count those to pump the PC list? So I guess The Last of US DLC counts as an AAA for PS3 too :P.

Also, Burning Crusade is an expansion to a game released in 2004, just saying.

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#46 MonsieurX
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@kinectthedots said:

@MonsieurX said:

@blamix99 said:

@MonsieurX said:

What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

can you give me the titles of AAAE on PC pls, from 2006-2013

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/?platform=PC&score=desc

World In Conflict

Starcraft II : WoL

Civilization V: Brave New World

Gone Home

WoW: Burning Crusade

Company Of Heroes

Path Of Exile

Shogun 2

Guild Wars 2

Command And Conquer 3

GTR2

Galactic Civilization II: Twilight Of The Arnor

Galactic Civilization II: Dread Lords

Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery EP

Europa Euniversalis IV

Crysis Warhead

The Sims 3

World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Sins of a Solar Empire

And pretty sure I'm missing a few

Go ahaed and list them then, they shouldn't be hard to find knowing it's not that many and so far I see 4 expansions for PC, Damn you guys count those? So I guess The Last of US DLC counts as an AAA for PS3 too :P.

dlc =\= expansions

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#47  Edited By kinectthedots
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@MonsieurX said:

@kinectthedots said:

@MonsieurX said:

@blamix99 said:

@MonsieurX said:

What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

can you give me the titles of AAAE on PC pls, from 2006-2013

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/?platform=PC&score=desc

World In Conflict

Starcraft II : WoL

Civilization V: Brave New World

Gone Home

WoW: Burning Crusade

Company Of Heroes

Path Of Exile

Shogun 2

Guild Wars 2

Command And Conquer 3

GTR2

Galactic Civilization II: Twilight Of The Arnor

Galactic Civilization II: Dread Lords

Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery EP

Europa Euniversalis IV

Crysis Warhead

The Sims 3

World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Sins of a Solar Empire

And pretty sure I'm missing a few

Go ahaed and list them then, they shouldn't be hard to find knowing it's not that many and so far I see 4 expansions for PC, Damn you guys count those? So I guess The Last of US DLC counts as an AAA for PS3 too :P.

dlc =\= expansions

And?

Also Burning Crusade is an expansion to a game relased in 2004 lol.

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#48 MonsieurX
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@kinectthedots said:

@MonsieurX said:

@kinectthedots said:

@MonsieurX said:

@blamix99 said:

@MonsieurX said:

What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

can you give me the titles of AAAE on PC pls, from 2006-2013

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/?platform=PC&score=desc

World In Conflict

Starcraft II : WoL

Civilization V: Brave New World

Gone Home

WoW: Burning Crusade

Company Of Heroes

Path Of Exile

Shogun 2

Guild Wars 2

Command And Conquer 3

GTR2

Galactic Civilization II: Twilight Of The Arnor

Galactic Civilization II: Dread Lords

Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery EP

Europa Euniversalis IV

Crysis Warhead

The Sims 3

World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Sins of a Solar Empire

And pretty sure I'm missing a few

Go ahaed and list them then, they shouldn't be hard to find knowing it's not that many and so far I see 4 expansions for PC, Damn you guys count those? So I guess The Last of US DLC counts as an AAA for PS3 too :P.

dlc =\= expansions

And?

That's why expansions count and dlc doesn't

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#49  Edited By kinectthedots
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@MonsieurX said:

@kinectthedots said:

@MonsieurX said:

@kinectthedots said:

@MonsieurX said:

@blamix99 said:

@MonsieurX said:

What are SW standards exactly?

Sales? Yes it won

AAAE? PC won

AAE? PC won

AE? PC won

Awards(lol)? TLOU won

can you give me the titles of AAAE on PC pls, from 2006-2013

http://www.gamespot.com/reviews/?platform=PC&score=desc

World In Conflict

Starcraft II : WoL

Civilization V: Brave New World

Gone Home

WoW: Burning Crusade

Company Of Heroes

Path Of Exile

Shogun 2

Guild Wars 2

Command And Conquer 3

GTR2

Galactic Civilization II: Twilight Of The Arnor

Galactic Civilization II: Dread Lords

Superbrothers: Sword & Sorcery EP

Europa Euniversalis IV

Crysis Warhead

The Sims 3

World Of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King

Sins of a Solar Empire

And pretty sure I'm missing a few

Go ahaed and list them then, they shouldn't be hard to find knowing it's not that many and so far I see 4 expansions for PC, Damn you guys count those? So I guess The Last of US DLC counts as an AAA for PS3 too :P.

dlc =\= expansions

And?

That's why expansions count and dlc doesn't

That's not an explanation, it's a non-argument without any valid justification.

Also, I became interested in some of the AAA PC blockbuster games you listed since I had never heard of them before so I decided to look at some them, at random I chosse Superbrothers to see what one of the many AAA PC exclusives that hermits brag about, but never list or show, acually look like

lol, impressive. Dat AAA exclusive PC quality that console gamers are missing out on.

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#50 MonsieurX
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Yes,just like Journey.