A good way to fight piracy on pc (also total war system specs)

Ugh, im considered a PC fanboy i guess, but damn, STEAM doesnt stop piracy at all, why are you all so far in denial about this? ... all the games are cracked.PC360Wii

I like how VALVe are the ones who view pirates as "unserved customers." They don't see them as a blight, only an untapped market.foxhound_fox

What about someone who can afford to pay for a game but chooses to pirate anyways? Is that an unserved customer? What about all the people that pirated crysis? They could afford the gaming pc but not the $50 game?

If you don't think piracy is a blight then you are deluding yourself. Pirates don't contribute anything to pc gaming, they just take the work of others without paying for it.

steam, that is a good way to stop it. all developers should use steam. it is a great service buy games, talk to friends, add a server to ur favorites. it is like a DRM but it is a friendly one. people don't think of it as DRM. u can play the game offline so it isn't so bad.iam2green

Valve can only make comments like that because most of their games are meant for online play which requires activation.

What about someone who can afford to pay for a game but chooses to pirate anyways? Is that an unserved customer? What about all the people that pirated crysis? They could afford the gaming pc but not the $50 game?

If you don't think piracy is a blight then you are deluding yourself. Pirates don't contribute anything to pc gaming, they just take the work of others without paying for it.

dc337

Rome total war will be relased both retail and in steam. Retail will also require activation via steam Link. I just cant understand why dont more companies that complain about piracy dont follow this model (released it both retail and digital and require activation via steam or similar service ) instead of implementing DRM solutions like EA which all they do is hurt the end user and hurt game salesadamosmaki

I do use Steam and it's prett ok (all though i hate they way they can change a game whenever they like) BUT it is still DRM.

If, like VALVe, everyone started looking at the "unserved" pirates as something other than a unfixable blight, then there might be some amount of progress towards mending the issue.foxhound_fox

Let me ask again: What about pirates that can afford to buy a game but choose not to? Are you going to tell me that they don't exist?

You seem to be in serious denial about main reason people pirate games/movies/music: because they don't want to pay.

Or perhaps you believe that all the people who pirated world of goo are in fact unserved customers?

They aren't jerks ripping off an independent developer? They would pay the measly $20 if they could?

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/11/acrying-shame-world-of-goo-piracy-rate-near-90.ars

Hope you like online games because that is the direction pc gaming is going thanks to pirates and their defenders like you. The U.S. pc gaming market is basically headed towards being like South Korea where people have money but choose to pirate which results in their game market being dominated by MMORPGs.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If, like VALVe, everyone started looking at the "unserved" pirates as something other than a unfixable blight, then there might be some amount of progress towards mending the issue.dc337

Let me ask again: What about pirates that can afford to buy a game but choose not to? Are you going to tell me that they don't exist?

You seem to be in serious denial about main reason people pirate games/movies/music: because they don't want to pay.

Or perhaps you believe that all the people who pirated world of goo are in fact unserved customers?

They aren't jerks ripping off an independent developer? They would pay the measly $20 if they could?

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/11/acrying-shame-world-of-goo-piracy-rate-near-90.ars

Hope you like online games because that is the direction pc gaming is going thanks to pirates and their defenders like you. The U.S. pc gaming market is basically headed towards being like South Korea where people have money but choose to pirate which results in their game market being dominated by MMORPGs.

Independent musicians and movie producers don't exist anymore. And they sure as hell don't make any money.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]If, like VALVe, everyone started looking at the "unserved" pirates as something other than a unfixable blight, then there might be some amount of progress towards mending the issue.dc337

Let me ask again: What about pirates that can afford to buy a game but choose not to? Are you going to tell me that they don't exist?

You seem to be in serious denial about main reason people pirate games/movies/music: because they don't want to pay.

Or perhaps you believe that all the people who pirated world of goo are in fact unserved customers?

They aren't jerks ripping off an independent developer? They would pay the measly $20 if they could?

http://arstechnica.com/gaming/news/2008/11/acrying-shame-world-of-goo-piracy-rate-near-90.ars

Hope you like online games because that is the direction pc gaming is going thanks to pirates and their defenders like you. The U.S. pc gaming market is basically headed towards being like South Korea where people have money but choose to pirate which results in their game market being dominated by MMORPGs.

What if you have no internet connection and just want to play the game?Master-Thief-09

[QUOTE="dc337"]Valve can only make comments like that because most of their games are meant for online play which requires activation.

What about someone who can afford to pay for a game but chooses to pirate anyways? Is that an unserved customer? What about all the people that pirated crysis? They could afford the gaming pc but not the $50 game?

If you don't think piracy is a blight then you are deluding yourself. Pirates don't contribute anything to pc gaming, they just take the work of others without paying for it.

foxhound_fox

Any software program can be patched so that it thinks that the program has been activated when actually it hasn't.BumFluff122

There is actually a fourth type of pirate: the type who is forced into it not because of cost or uncertainty, but because he can't find what he's looking for anywhere else. Hopefully, more publishers will either (a) make their old games that are off the shelves available as freeware or (b) make said games available on services like Steam or GOG for cheap.thepwninator

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I like how VALVe are the ones who view pirates as "unserved customers." They don't see them as a blight, only an untapped market.dc337

What about someone who can afford to pay for a game but chooses to pirate anyways? Is that an unserved customer? What about all the people that pirated crysis? They could afford the gaming pc but not the $50 game?

If you don't think piracy is a blight then you are deluding yourself. Pirates don't contribute anything to pc gaming, they just take the work of others without paying for it.

I like how VALVe are the ones who view pirates as "unserved customers." They don't see them as a blight, only an untapped market.foxhound_fox

What about someone who can afford to pay for a game but chooses to pirate anyways? Is that an unserved customer? What about all the people that pirated crysis? They could afford the gaming pc but not the $50 game?

If you don't think piracy is a blight then you are deluding yourself. Pirates don't contribute anything to pc gaming, they just take the work of others without paying for it.

[QUOTE="dc337"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]I like how VALVe are the ones who view pirates as "unserved customers." They don't see them as a blight, only an untapped market.DragonfireXZ95

What about someone who can afford to pay for a game but chooses to pirate anyways? Is that an unserved customer? What about all the people that pirated crysis? They could afford the gaming pc but not the $50 game?

If you don't think piracy is a blight then you are deluding yourself. Pirates don't contribute anything to pc gaming, they just take the work of others without paying for it.

Or more likely they are people that simply don't want to pay for the game so they can spend their money on other things like hardware upgrades or beer.

People pirate because they don't want to pay.

Gaming is a form of luxury entertainment, you don't have a right to it. I'm guessing that a lot of people that defend the pirates are actually pirates themselves. Who else would go to such great lengths to rationalize those who don't support game developers? I'm sure pirates and their defenders would prefer it if everyone looked the other way but devs pay attention when games like the world of goo have a 90% piracy rate.

Like I said before, hope you like playing online because that is currently the best way to deal with the pc piracy problem. Say goodbye to big-budget, single-player pc exclusives.

[QUOTE="Master-Thief-09"]What if you have no internet connection and just want to play the game?Metalscarz

What if you have no internet connection and just want to play the game?Master-Thief-09

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^ It's just funny hearing americans talking ignorantly about PC piracy.

Here's a couple of clues, there's always been piracy since the ealry days of gaming.

And not just for PC games.

Now with torrents there's some way to "track" it, but before you couldn't exaclty count the games on floopies/CDs/cartridges/DVDs sold at street corners in central-easthern Europe, Russia, SE Asia and Co.

If anything, right now some people in these regions are actually starting to buy games.

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So americans, please stop talking non-sense on things you don't know anything about.

Rome total war will be relased both retail and in steam. Retail will also require activation via steam Link. I just cant understand why dont more companies that complain about piracy dont follow this model (released it both retail and digital and require activation via steam or similar service ) instead of implementing DRM solutions like EA which all they do is hurt the end user and hurt game salesadamosmaki

this is a way to fight piracy how? this wouldnt do a damn thing.