7th Gen Crysis 3 vs 8th Gen Killzone: Shadow Fall

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#1 scatteh316
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Just because a game is classed as 8th gen doesn't mean it's better then a game that's classed as 7th gen.

See below to see my point, 7th gen is better.

vs

*Waits for cows to say how much better the lighting is in the bottom picture*

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#3 freedomfreak
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Good idea. These kind of threads have been lacking lately.

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#4  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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I'm not quite sure what's going on here

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#6 CrownKingArthur
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both pix need mo' black bars

bar bar black bar , have you any graphics?

no sir no sir console slow

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#7 sam890
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For the LAST TIME, "Generations" are only applicable to CONSOLES !!!!!

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#8 MonsieurX
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Another thread on this?

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#9 scatteh316
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Atleast cows aren't posting in here so they've obviously learned that Crysis 3 PC > Flopzone

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#10 Lulu_Lulu
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YAY ! Another graphics thread... These never get old !

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#11 scatteh316
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This is system wars, don't like the vs threads then get out?

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#12  Edited By killzowned24
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There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

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#13  Edited By DEadliNE-Zero0
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And both are average.

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@deadline-zero0 said:

And both are average.

Neither of those are average graphically.

Shadowfall is a terrible game tho.

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@sam890: PC ports and standards are hindered by console generations so I'd say PC has generations. And if not that then at least it has "something" indirectly related to generations.

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@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

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#17 DEadliNE-Zero0
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@GreySeal9 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

And both are average.

Neither of those are average graphically.

Shadowfall is a terrible game tho.

The games. Not the graphics.

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#18 GreySeal9
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@deadline-zero0 said:

@GreySeal9 said:

@deadline-zero0 said:

And both are average.

Neither of those are average graphically.

Shadowfall is a terrible game tho.

The games. Not the graphics.

Oh, OK. Gotcha.

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#19 killzowned24
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@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

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#20 R4gn4r0k
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@CrownKingArthur said:

both pix need mo' black bars

bar bar black bar , have you any graphics?

no sir no sir console slow

Once I found out how black bars can add teh cinematicnezâ„¢ I stopped playing any game that doesn't have black bars, which is to say, all my games.

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#21 scatteh316
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@killzowned24 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

And cows keep hyping crap like the Killzone shot in the OP and try to claim graphics ownage over everything.

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#22  Edited By kinectthedots
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@killzowned24 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

Ryse looks great, cut the crap.

Resolution aside it is one of the best looking games out, to deny that puts you near the hermit level of trolling and biased blindness. I expect something better than that from you.

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#23 SuddenlyTragic
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Good god how many Crysis 3/Killzone graphics threads are there going to be. This topic has been beaten to death.

Bottom line: Crysis 3 looks great still, better than Killzone. Killzone is a launch game that looks just above average in my opinion. The PS4 will at some point produce a shooter better looking than Crysis 3, but Killzone is not that game.

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#24  Edited By killzowned24
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@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

Ryse looks great, cut the crap.

See. refuse to back it up with direct feed screenshot, cuz you know it looks like a fugly blurfest.

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#25 chikenfriedrice
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@killzowned24 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

That's not true...I've posted many screens because the game is eye candy. Deny the truth all you want but it doesn't make it less true.

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#26 CrownKingArthur
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@R4gn4r0k said:

@CrownKingArthur said:

both pix need mo' black bars

bar bar black bar , have you any graphics?

no sir no sir console slow

Once I found out how black bars can add teh cinematicnezâ„¢ I stopped playing any game that doesn't have black bars, which is to say, all my games.

want 2 play games? u could get some black duct tape

stick it to the top and bottom of the monitor, and just pretend these are unused pixels

still though, the real thing would be awesome. oh oh oh at 30 fps.

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#27 killzowned24
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@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

That's not true...I've posted many screens because the game is eye candy. Deny the truth all you want but it doesn't make it less true.

I call BS. lets see these screenshots.

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Rhyse makes me feel like I have cataracts...

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#29  Edited By R4gn4r0k
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@CrownKingArthur said:

want 2 play games? u could get some black duct tape

stick it to the top and bottom of the monitor, and just pretend these are unused pixels

still though, the real thing would be awesome. oh oh oh at 30 fps.

That is ... an amazing idea !

Unfortunately I ran out of duct tape when changing my desktop PC into a more portable one:

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#30  Edited By kinectthedots
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@killzowned24 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

Ryse looks great, cut the crap.

See. refuse to back it up with direct feed screenshot, cuz you know it looks like a fugly blurfest.

Really?

BTW: every game has some blur, it's a graphical effect that every developer uses to enhance certain aspects of their game. and the Watch Dogs Mod/update added blur as an upgrade from the previous version which the majority say look a lot better.

If you are talking about resolution then 900p looks pretty good if you ask me Crytek did a good job. There are, and will be games below 1080p on the PS4 as well..do you plan to bash all of them too?

You need to think a bit about what you are saying because you are setting yourself up to be a hypocrite.

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#31  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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@killzowned24 said:

@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:
@chikenfriedrice said:

@killzowned24 said:

There about even.Both are deferred with HDR. All that matters is they both make xbone look inferior :D

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3709/11360472843_a9dbdbe570_o.gif

KZ:SF is not mind blowing...it looks good in spots.

Ryse and Infamous are still king ( on consoles )

I could say the same to about ryse, except it runs at a lower resolution and framerate.

Ryse looks so fugly lems won't even dare to post screenshots ...sooooo

That's not true...I've posted many screens because the game is eye candy. Deny the truth all you want but it doesn't make it less true.

I call BS. lets see these screenshots.

I will just leave this here for you

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#32 killzowned24
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@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

See. refuse to back it up with direct feed screenshot, cuz you know it looks like a fugly blurfest.

Really?

Yup,and look at how poor it looks.Nothing impressive here at all. Everything from the environment to characters gets owned by Killzone.

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#33  Edited By scatteh316
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@killzowned24 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

See. refuse to back it up with direct feed screenshot, cuz you know it looks like a fugly blurfest.

Really?

Yup,and look at how poor it looks.Nothing impressive here at all. Everything from the environment to characters gets owned by Killzone.

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@killzowned24 said:

I call BS. lets see these screenshots.

How about playing the game for yourself, screenshots don't provide an accurate barometer for a game's looks.

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#35 lostrib
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Please, no more graphics threads. For the love all that is holy!

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#36  Edited By kinectthedots
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@killzowned24 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

See. refuse to back it up with direct feed screenshot, cuz you know it looks like a fugly blurfest.

Really?

Yup,and look at how poor it looks.Nothing impressive here at all. Everything from the environment to characters gets owned by Killzone.

No, Killzone characters are some of the worst I have seen this generation

#DEALWITHIT

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@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

See. refuse to back it up with direct feed screenshot, cuz you know it looks like a fugly blurfest.

Really?

Yup,and look at how poor it looks.Nothing impressive here at all. Everything from the environment to characters gets owned by Killzone.

No, Killzone characters are some of the worst I have seen this generation

#DEALWITHIT

So not only do you use a prerendered shot to try and prove a point you use a shopped one and then downscale it? LOL try harder!

Real-time and so far beyond that its not even comparable - http://abload.de/img/amarectv2013-11-1523-10u58.jpg

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shadowfall and ryse both look better than c3

Loading Video...

great ryse video

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This thread needs more screenshots than @gpuking's.

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#40  Edited By scatteh316
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@m3dude1: That Killzone shot in the OP looks horrible..but but teh poly count...but but the next gen assets and next gen lighting..

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#41  Edited By kinectthedots
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@killzowned24 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

See. refuse to back it up with direct feed screenshot, cuz you know it looks like a fugly blurfest.

Really?

Yup,and look at how poor it looks.Nothing impressive here at all. Everything from the environment to characters gets owned by Killzone.

No, Killzone characters are some of the worst I have seen this generation

#DEALWITHIT

So not only do you use a prerendered shot to try and prove a point you use a shopped one and then downscale it? LOL try harder!

Real-time and so far beyond that its not even comparable - http://abload.de/img/amarectv2013-11-1523-10u58.jpg

I think you've done enough graphics talk...

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@m3dude1: Ryse is beautiful....why cows continue to act like it's not is beyond me.

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@scatteh316 said:

@m3dude1: That Killzone shot in the OP looks horrible..but but teh poly count...but but the next gen assets and next gen lighting..

i wasnt judging based on your cherry picked kz ss. im basing it off playing both games. still waiting on those magic 60 fps screens where your framerate on a r290x at 1440p is 2x faster than what 2 people have verified is 30 fps at 1080p on a 780ti.

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#44 Chutebox
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Is there supposed to be something worng with the bottom picture?

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#45  Edited By scatteh316
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@m3dude1 said:

@scatteh316 said:

@m3dude1: That Killzone shot in the OP looks horrible..but but teh poly count...but but the next gen assets and next gen lighting..

i wasnt judging based on your cherry picked kz ss. im basing it off playing both games. still waiting on those magic 60 fps screens where your framerate on a r290x at 1440p is 2x faster than what 2 people have verified is 30 fps at 1080p on a 780ti.

Still waiting for your single digit FPS screens...

And your figures are wrong

Your ti with an overclock and a 290 with a 40% overclock should not have any problems at 1440p let alone 1080p

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#46  Edited By killzowned24
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@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

@kinectthedots said:

@killzowned24 said:

Yup,and look at how poor it looks.Nothing impressive here at all. Everything from the environment to characters gets owned by Killzone.

No, Killzone characters are some of the worst I have seen this generation

#DEALWITHIT

So not only do you use a prerendered shot to try and prove a point you use a shopped one and then downscale it? LOL try harder!

Real-time and so far beyond that its not even comparable - http://abload.de/img/amarectv2013-11-1523-10u58.jpg

I think you've done enough graphics talk...

In other words, please stop owning me!

Even in that prerendered shot the textures are so poor as to be below the quality of a basic killzone enemy!

http://abload.de/img/amarectv2013-12-1020-x7clv.png

http://i7.minus.com/ilkaaqZAztrH2.png

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#47  Edited By BldgIrsh
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@scatteh316

Thank your for making this thread. This argument has derailed about 5 threads right now.

And, don't worry about m3board1 he claims that bf4 on ultra has huge fluctuations... It's just his cruddy computer. I am willing to bet that he thought he could cheap out in every other spec and just buy a nice graphics card and now he's bottlenecking the hell out of it due to it.

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@scatteh316 said:

@m3dude1 said:

@scatteh316 said:

@m3dude1: That Killzone shot in the OP looks horrible..but but teh poly count...but but the next gen assets and next gen lighting..

i wasnt judging based on your cherry picked kz ss. im basing it off playing both games. still waiting on those magic 60 fps screens where your framerate on a r290x at 1440p is 2x faster than what 2 people have verified is 30 fps at 1080p on a 780ti.

Still waiting for your single digit FPS screens...

And your figures are wrong

Your ti with an overclock and a 290 with a 40% overclock should not have any problems at 1440p let alone 1080p

that bench is is irrelevant(tho it still proves your claim wrong). another user with a 780ti corroborated my performance. you are the one claiming magic numbers and unwilling to post a screen with a framerate counter

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#49  Edited By chikenfriedrice
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@killzowned24: I will just drop this turd here

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@m3dude1 said:

@scatteh316 said:

@m3dude1 said:

@scatteh316 said:

@m3dude1: That Killzone shot in the OP looks horrible..but but teh poly count...but but the next gen assets and next gen lighting..

i wasnt judging based on your cherry picked kz ss. im basing it off playing both games. still waiting on those magic 60 fps screens where your framerate on a r290x at 1440p is 2x faster than what 2 people have verified is 30 fps at 1080p on a 780ti.

Still waiting for your single digit FPS screens...

And your figures are wrong

Your ti with an overclock and a 290 with a 40% overclock should not have any problems at 1440p let alone 1080p

that bench is is irrelevant(tho it still proves your claim wrong). another user with a 780ti corroborated my performance. you are the one claiming magic numbers and unwilling to post a screen with a framerate counter

You're the one claiming bogus numbers...single digits on a 780ti? Please...