70% OF ResetEra Voted they will NOT switch to X-Series if its Online is free and PS5's is paid.

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#1 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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https://www.resetera.com/threads/playstation-gamers-if-ms-gets-rid-of-the-online-paywall-and-sony-doesnt-how-will-that-affect-your-purchasing-next-gen.259437/

Is the next-gen war already over?

This poll friggin scares me.

Brands are a powerful thing in the gaming world it would seem. Free online, BC, none of it resonating with the hardcore gamers. They want games they want big hitters. They want a name they can trust.

Microsoft even do huge big swingy things is just not making splash or even a ripple in the PS5 wake.

It seems like its over before it even has begun.

What can Microsoft even do anymore? The poll says it all. Xbox people, what is going on through head when you read these numbers? Should Phil retire I mean isn't his job to get these people on xbox?

I mean with the 360 they were neck and neck with ps3, why can't that happen again is the brand severely tarnished after the xbox one?

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#2 hardwenzen
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Free online is a bonus, not a primary reason to buy a system.

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#3  Edited By XMasturcheefxx
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What big hitters is Sony delivering though? Ghost took 6 years to make and resounded in an underwhelming 83/100 because Sucker Punch are an untalented developer. TLOU2 turned people off with Neil Druckmann putting in a scene with 2 dudes smashing each other.

And honestly does anyone even pay for PS+? I mean what on Earth would you play aside COD and Destiny, both which are free to play now? Not like Sony could make a decent MP game to save their lives.

Like seriously...can anyone name a good Sony game that isn't an over the shoulder camera game? I can't think of any.

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#4 sakaiXx
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Oh nice.

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#5 deactivated-642321fb121ca
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More alts, can GS close new users please.

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#6 lifelessablaze
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Who the heck wants those weirdos ruining their online anyway?

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#7 Juub1990
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OP with more concern trolling.

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#8 deactivated-60bf765068a74
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@Juub1990 said:

OP with more concern trolling.

Bro how is this trolling? The PS5 is a friggin monster im just stating facts and data here. That xbox guy is the worst and nothing like me.

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#9  Edited By Gatygun
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That clown website is riddled with people that can't even decide what gender they are. But then sony is all in on SJW agenda so yea it makes sense.

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Resetera.

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#11 Archangel3371
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Oh noes! Quick, everyone panic!

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#12 Fedor
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Damn, stealing away 30% of that resetera market share.

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Sony NPCs. lawl

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#15 NathanDrakeSwag
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@saltslasher said:

ResetEra are mostly Sony shills, so not really shocking.

Xbox done everything asked of them over last 4 years and the ones complaining most are these PS fanboys, who now been given golden ticket, but their too busy being like Violet who wants everything and rolling down street as giant blue berry.

They don't care how far down the shit hole Sony goes, and how holy Xbox gets, these fools rather fall on sword than admit Xbox is better across the board.

When are you guys going to get it? A game console can have every feature, more power, better services, etc. Without the GAMES none of it matters. We won't even know until 2022 at the earliest if Microsoft's new studios have panned out. Halo Infinite looking like a dumpster fire doesn't instill much confidence.

Sony has proven themselves for 4 console generations that they will deliver the games. Microsoft has done nothing for 3 generations except milk the same 3 franchises to death.

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#16 BenjaminBanklin
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@saltslasher said:

ResetEra are mostly Sony shills, so not really shocking.

Xbox done everything asked of them over last 4 years and the ones complaining most are these PS fanboys, who now been given golden ticket, but their too busy being like Violet who wants everything and rolling down street as giant blue berry.

They don't care how far down the shit hole Sony goes, and how holy Xbox gets, these fools rather fall on sword than admit Xbox is better across the board.

**** outta here. Resetera is full of Microsoft astroturf straight up. Every other thread is about Game Pass. And putting out the latest MS fires via damage control. It's damn near r/xbox 2.0. That site is two more terrible Xbox game shows from sporting an Xbox logo at the top.

And despite all that, no one is going to be swayed into buying an Xbox that didn't already want one just because they've hit desperation mode. Xbox had all last gen to get their shit together with gaming content, but they fell back on prioritizing services first. Games are supposed to sell a game console first. You think a dropping a fucking 60 dollar paywall is gonna change Xbox's fortunes? If that's even happening.

Sony and Nintendo don't have to follow Microsoft into unprofitable business models for their gaming services to get attention, the games do that for them. Kick rocks with that "Woe is Microsoft" shit.

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I hope you're being paid.

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#18 Duckyindiana
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Lol ResetEra 😂 OMG I haven’t laughed so much I ages

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#19 jcafcwbb
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I go with Sony and will buy the PS5 because (a) I only have time and money to buy one console and (b) I have had a great time with Sony since the PS2 days.

Sorry there's no bigger reason. I pay for PS Plus and get my money's worth out of it.

It is just plain satisfaction with no reason to move for a few quid a month.

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#20 Howmakewood
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based on resetera split, that sounds like MS is gaining ground

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#21  Edited By Ant_17
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Well, duh. Only 60% of ps4 users use plus. They are pretty much trying entice cod and gta5 players to go to xbox.

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#22 clone01
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@Archangel3371 said:

Oh noes! Quick, everyone panic!

oh, Costanza. That was a great episode.

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#23 Archangel3371
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@clone01: Yeah it certainly was. 😅

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#24 ps5rulez
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the gaming world is dead, no highend arcade games anymore, no highend pc games anymore all we are stuck with is overly monetized console peasantry.

lol make the great gaming depression great again.

hell we're already in it.

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#25 NathanDrakeSwag
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@ps5rulez said:

the gaming world is dead, no highend arcade games anymore, no highend pc games anymore all we are stuck with is overly monetized console peasantry.

lol make the great gaming depression great again.

hell we're already in it.

High end PC games never existed. Hermits spend 3 grand to play League. Then they stink because they have no money left to buy soap.

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#26  Edited By ps5rulez
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@NathanDrakeSwag:

quake=highend game

half life=highend game

unreal=highend game

doom=highend game

far cry=highend game

crysis=highend game

painkiller=highend game

they were originally only on pc pushing graphics technology over consoles

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#28  Edited By ps5rulez
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hell even call of duty was originally a highend pc game only on pc in 2003.

even battlefield was pc only in 2002.

they were pushing visuals on pc, consoles werent capable of in 2002/2003.

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#29 xantufrog  Moderator
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That's understandable, assuming there are more reasons than that for almost anyone's console purchase. That being said - free online was one of the PS3's big bonuses over 360 - now it's flipped and that's not a good thing

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@xmasturcheefxx said:

Ghost took 6 years to make and resounded in an underwhelming 83/100 because Sucker Punch are an untalented developer.

Pfffffft

Hahahahaha

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#32 MonsieurX
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The gen decided with a poll on another forum?

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#33 ps5rulez
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There's a very good reason, i've only bought like 2 games in like 10 years, that's because 99.9 % of the shit today is complete dogshit.

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#34 Ant_17
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@ps5rulez: you bought 2 games in10 years and expect games to improve?

Yeah, you deserve not enjoying games.

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#35  Edited By ps5rulez
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I knew gaming was officially dead when, doom2016 was finally shown in 2016, they turned a highend pc game into a console game with last generation graphics filled with last generation QTE tropes.

Was final nail in the coffin.

When doom3 was shown it was graphically so fucking amazing, when doom2016 was shown it was like uh, man this looks so last gen lol.

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#36 Pedro
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That's crazy that just making online free will make 30% of PS gamers leave.

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#37 BenjaminBanklin
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@Ant_17 said:

@ps5rulez: you bought 2 games in10 years and expect games to improve?

Yeah, you deserve not enjoying games.

Get 'em!

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#38 BenjaminBanklin
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@Pedro said:

That's crazy that just making online free will make 30% of PS gamers leave.

More like that's ninety 91.1% of people still getting a PS5, and 8.9% percent of Xbots voting trying to pretend it matters. 🤣

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#39 Pedro
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@BenjaminBanklin said:
@Pedro said:

That's crazy that just making online free will make 30% of PS gamers leave.

More like that's ninety 91.1% of people still getting a PS5, and 8.9% percent of Xbots voting trying to pretend it matters. 🤣

At least you are trying.😎

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#40  Edited By ps5rulez
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Crysis 2 2011 looks better than doom2016 and doom eternal,that's how you know gaming is officially dead doom2016/doom eternal are nothing more than crysis 2 gameplay recycled, you had double jumping and climbing and even a ground pound in crysis 2 plus ''quick time event kills'' hell and even a cover system.

Hell crysis 2 atleast had a special direct 11 pc rendering mode plus a high res texture pack released for it over consoles, doom2016/eternal have no special rendering mode all you get is slightly better textures and shadows than console well and higher fps of course no actual high res texture packs released for it like crysis tho.

Doom2016/eternal are so last gen aka 10 years ago it's fucking insane man.

That was the final nail in the gaming industry's coffin legit legit.

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#41  Edited By ps5rulez
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Glad imma fucking xennial 1984,. not a fucking millenial i got to see gaming go from being great to complete shit im not just being grumpy like some old man i've seen it all before and im telling u the goddamn truth.

. Xennials are described as having had an analog childhood and a digital adulthood.

Exactly!

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#42 Telekill
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Going to throw some logic in here. A random online poll means nothing as people have found ways to vote more than once. Hell, people that shouldn't be voting or even what's left of their corpses are allowed to vote in American politics.

That said, brand names are stronger than ever. This gen seems to have been a catalyst for the Playstation and Xbox ecosystems. Whichever came out on top will stay on top given people being far less willing to switch due to being vested in their platform of choice. The push towards digital games really drove this.

Unless Sony pulls a Microsoft E3 2013, expect Playstation to be at minimum ahead of Microsoft during next gen and perhaps snow balling into the bigger platform from here on.

Charging or not charging for online isn't much of a gain for Microsoft. Definitely not as big a deal as it was during last gen. I still applaud them for doing it though.

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#43 ps5rulez
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The only thing that's gotten better is the advancement of graphics engines, but the things being built with those engines are shit the actual content being made is of shit quality.

Movie creating technology has gotten better, yet the quality has suffered.

You have better recording technology than ever before, but the quality has suffered aswell.

That's pretty fucking shitty.

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#44  Edited By ps5rulez
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You can have the greatest tools in the world at your disposal, but if you just are a shit artist you are shit no matter what and that's what it's come down to just no great minds behind this stuff anymore.

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#45 Sushiglutton
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I don’t pay for online on PS simply because I never play MP. So to me it really doesn’t matter. Now I guess that I’m in the minority, but perhaps some percentage of the respondents are in the same category?

It seems like the sheer quality of Sony’s exclusives just trumps everything MS is trying to do atm.

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#46  Edited By onesiphorus
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Trust the results of a probable unscientific poll?

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#47 ps5rulez
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all this people are still asshurt from xbox one reveal btw don mattrick, get over it cunts he's no longer with microsoft lol.

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#48  Edited By ps5rulez
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if anyone that should be asshurt it should be me, someone who supported xbox since launch november 15th 2001 before a bunch of posers jumped on board pretending to be xbox fans, yes it was sad seeing the brand go to complete shit im over it atleast they tried to improve some things even tho they arent there yet.

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#49 Pedro
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@ps5rulez said:

if anyone that should be asshurt it should be me, someone who supported xbox since launch november 15th 2001 before a bunch of posers jumped on board pretending to be xbox fans, yes it was sad seeing the brand go to complete shit im over it atleast they tried to improve some things even tho they arent there yet.

I think you need to take a break.
I think you need to take a break.

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#50 ps5rulez
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@Pedro: everyone was shitting on microsoft, when they were trying to get into the console industry, who u fooling kiddo? Half these people are posers lol.