60 fps is good but it doesn't justify paying a lot for a PC

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#1  Edited By Xbox_Rocks_One
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I mean, you get the performance and the "graphics" but what does it matter if most of your games are Indies with subpar graphics and quality? There's no AAA exclusive on PC, everything can be played on PS4 or on an X1, the PS4 pro or the x1x has more value in a performance/graphics vs money situation.

There's literally no reason to spend money on a PC, you will not really benefit from anything that it offers, 60fps is not worth it, the "ultra settings" are not worth it.

The indie garbage and pay to win games on steam are definitely not worth it.

Really, PC is completely overpriced and redundant at this point, for less than half the price, you have a PS4 pro with all multiplats, exclusives and Indies that are good. For half the price, you have an x1x with all the multiplats and good Indies.

if you don't work on it, there's no reason to buy it, unless you like to spend money to be part of some lame "master race" lol

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#3 ProperMotion
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Kind of agree, and I just built a PC less than a year ago

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#5 DaVillain  Moderator
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My framerates 60fps+ are objectively better on my PC, so that's all I care about. I just use consoles for Dem exclusives ;)

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#6  Edited By The_Stand_In
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So you propose I buy a PC or laptop for work AND a console for games, as opposed to just one machine for both for roughly the same amount of money. GENIUS!

Also PC has plenty of exclusives. Countless amounts, actually. I can count the number of Xbox exclusives on one hand. So......yeah. That argument is moot.

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#7 DrLostRib
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so an account with only 64 posts makes an anti-PC thread, and the first response is from a new account with only 14 posts that also just made an anti-PC thread...

Things are going great in SW

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#8 mandzilla  Moderator
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Except for the fact that there are entire genres of games available on PC that you'll never seen see on any console.

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#9  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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@drlostrib said:

so an account with only 64 posts makes an anti-PC thread, and the first response is from a new account with only 14 posts that also just made an anti-PC thread...

Things are going great in SW

And the username gave it away.

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#10 DrLostRib
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@davillain- said:
@drlostrib said:

so an account with only 64 posts makes an anti-PC thread, and the first response is from a new account with only 14 posts that also just made an anti-PC thread...

Things are going great in SW

And the username gave it away.

which one? I don't keep track of the trolls that cycle through these days

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#11  Edited By Fedor
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Op and first reponse are the same dude. Sad life.

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#13 The_Stand_In
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@fedor: Gotta boost that low self-esteem by having "others" agree with you. And of course to push that agenda for......reasons?

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#14 gameofthering
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Most of the games I enjoy are multi-plat, so I'd prefer to play them at their best.

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#15 adamosmaki
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the irony of someone complaining about pc exclusives and has a username Xbox-Rocks-one .

Tc we know you are trolling ( and not a good attempt at trolling ) but there are entire genres that are almost exclusive on pc ( you know such strategy games and is not like is a niche or small genre considering civilization/ starcraft/ total war series sell in the 3-4+ million every time )

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#16 ahmedkhan1994
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Pc is no longer about 60fps though. 60fps is the new 30fps, its all about 100+ fps nowadays.

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#17 mrbojangles25
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Well that's a relief. Here I was thinking you regretted your purchase, but thankfully you remembered that PC:

  • has the largest diversity of game genres
  • has the largest selection of games
  • has the largest selection of input devices (mice, keyboards, joy/flightsticks, HOTAS, VR, controllers...)
  • is the best performing platform, be it frames per second or highest visual fidelity.
  • mods, community, support, etc
  • open development platform that isn't stuck asking corporate shills if it's OK to make a game on their platform.
  • incredible independent game movement, in addition to third-party and AAA games
  • near-infinite backwards compatibility

Good thing you remembered all those other reasons for playing on PC.

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#18 Fedor
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@ahmedkhan1994: 144+ actually.

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#19 deactivated-5d78760d7d740
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Poor hermits don't even know that the human eye can't see past 1080p 30fps and studies have shown 24fps is objectively more cinematic.

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#20  Edited By DrLostRib
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@XVision84 said:

Poor hermits don't even know that the human eye can't see past 1080p 30fps and studies have shown 24fps is objectively more cinematic.

I'm a Doctor and i approve this message

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#21 Xbox_Rocks_One
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@The_Stand_In: you got too mad over this, huh

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#22 Xbox_Rocks_One
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Amazing how people get mad when you tell them their investment was useless and redundant

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#23  Edited By DrLostRib
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how is it you don't benefit from higher frame rates?

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#24 Kali-B1rd
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@propermotion said:

Kind of agree, and I just built a PC less than a year ago

Oh look, an alt backing up his other alt.

Are you the guy that just deleted his account? lol.

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#26  Edited By Dark_sageX
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@xbox_rocks_one said:

Amazing how people get mad when you tell them their investment was useless and redundant

This subject has been done to death, its a universal agreement at this point that anybody who keeps regurgitating the same garbage talking points as you did has 0 clue about PC gaming and is generally an idiot. You would be lucky that anybody would bother to give you the time of day and explain to you why you are so dead wrong.

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#27 Xbox_Rocks_One
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@Dark_sageX: or maybe I'm just having a little fun with you people, because, you know, there's no better place to trigger people over silly things than on SW lol

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#28 DrLostRib
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@xbox_rocks_one said:

@Dark_sageX: or maybe I'm just having a little fun with you people, because, you know, there's no better place to trigger people over silly things than on SW lol

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#29 Xbox_Rocks_One
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@drlostrib: the silly people that got mad at my silly thread lol

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#30  Edited By DrLostRib
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@xbox_rocks_one said:

@drlostrib: the silly people that got mad at my silly thread lol

don't think anyone got mad, since it's obvious and repetitive trolling at this point

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#31 xhawk27
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Paying a lot more to have 60fps is it worth it? Not having Atmos, 4k UDH drive, enhanced Backward compatibility not using mods?

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#32 speedfreak48t5p
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@drlostrib: lol

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#33 dxmcat
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@xbox_rocks_one said:

I mean, you get the performance and the "graphics" but what does it matter if most of your games are Indies with subpar graphics and quality? There's no AAA exclusive on PC, everything can be played on PS4 or on an X1, the PS4 pro or the x1x has more value in a performance/graphics vs money situation.

There's literally no reason to spend money on a PC, you will not really benefit from anything that it offers, 60fps is not worth it, the "ultra settings" are not worth it.

The indie garbage and pay to win games on steam are definitely not worth it.

Really, PC is completely overpriced and redundant at this point, for less than half the price, you have a PS4 pro with all multiplats, exclusives and Indies that are good. For half the price, you have an x1x with all the multiplats and good Indies.

if you don't work on it, there's no reason to buy it, unless you like to spend money to be part of some lame "master race" lol

The alts just dont stop.

You can do a LOT of shit with a PC, even make a living.

Can't really do much with a toy.

Your train of thought is pretty damned redundant.

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#34  Edited By Fedor
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@xhawk27 said:

Paying a lot more to have 60fps is it worth it? Not having Atmos, 4k UDH drive, enhanced Backward compatibility not using mods?

PC has atmos... Nobody cares about the uhd, the future is digital. PC bc shits all over your Xbox. Mods are wonderful, only an idiot would try and make them sound like a negative. You dont even own a X1X or atmos yet here you are trying to brag LMAO!!!

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#35 jun_aka_pekto
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@dxmcat said:

The alts just dont stop.

You can do a LOT of shit with a PC, even make a living.

Can't really do much with a toy.

Your train of thought is pretty damned redundant.

I was thinking the same thing. ;)

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#38 BenjaminBanklin
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Performance aside. PC can play Xbox games, new third-party games, PC exclusives, indies, old games, emulated games, and do every function a console can't do. I'm sorry, consoles are fun for gamers, but it's not the optimal experience for the person that wants everything.

These anti-PC threads are boring. It's like asking people to give up their house and live in an apartment because they don't like to take the time to mow a lawn.

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#39 DragonfireXZ95
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@xbox_rocks_one said:

Amazing how people get mad when you tell them their investment was useless and redundant

Oh, you mean kind of like buying an Xbox when we already have a gaming PC? That kind of useless purchase? :D

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#40 Zaryia
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@xbox_rocks_one said:

Amazing how people get mad when you tell them their investment was useless and redundant

Oh, you mean kind of like buying an Xbox when we already have a gaming PC? That kind of useless purchase? :D

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#41  Edited By APOPHI5
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I get over 60FPS, Some games hit 120 FPS .

To each their own Just play your games if you like PC so be it if you like console so be it . I play both but lean towards my PC , and I can tell a damn difference from 60 FPS - 30 FPS especially on high range monitor.

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#42 JoPython52
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I agree and disagree. Is it worth the money?

Well that’s subjective. I just spent $800 upgrading my PC. I got a nice 1440p monitor and had to upgrade the main parts, cpu, mobo, ram. It certainly makes games look great and run smoothly. There are a limited amount of games I want to play on PC, but it makes me feel good about the games I do play. I also game on all the consoles too, but when have a choice to play a game at 1440p, 144hz it’s nice to have that experience.

It’s probably a waste of money yeah, but this is a enthusiast hobby.

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#43 lundy86_4
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60fps is pretty barebones for PC nowadays. Higher resolution monitors can also rock much higher frames... Not even touching IQ.

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#44 JoPython52
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@lundy86_4: well to be fair, you need a hefty GPU and CPU and ram to drive those frames. I would say 60 fps is a good goal for most people to reach for at high or ultra settings even in 2019.

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#45 The_Stand_In
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@xbox_rocks_one: Ah, yes. The good ol' "You mad bro" tactic to deflect attention off of you looking like an idiot. But alas, an idiot troll you remain.

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#46 lundy86_4
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@jopython52: Very true. That's what the PC allows... Either go low to mid-end and achieve 30-60fps, or go higher-end and above and achieve 60fps+. TC is a literal moron.

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#47  Edited By NeutrinoWorks
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Thanks OP

Selling my PC now

/sarcasm

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#48 pyro1245
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Ooof. This is embarrassing for you. We've all moved on to 144Hz displays.

I guess you didn't get the email because you don't have a PC.

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#49  Edited By Jebus213
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and most AAA exclusives are shitty emotional movie games on the ps4 my gf enjoys.

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#50  Edited By br0kenrabbit
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@xbox_rocks_one said:

I mean, you get the performance and the "graphics" but what does it matter if most of your games are Indies with subpar graphics and quality?

I'd like to see a console run Warhammer II Total War. Those crappy laptop-grade CPUs would crawl.

Where are the flight sims on console? Don't hit me with some arcade crap like Ace Combat, either.

Can I get a good sub sim? Tank sim? Hell, what about grognard games? Is there even one?

You kiddies keep playing your 80's action flick games, some of us enjoy the more refined genres that employ, you know, brains instead of just reflexes.