[4K HDR] Forza Horizon 3: Xbox One X Full Developer Interview! 60fps possible

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#1 Posted by tdkmillsy (2793 posts) -

Xbox one X easily powerful enough to hand 60fps.

Choices made to improve graphics on top of 4k instead.

New Forza being developed using The X as the primary console.

4x MSAA still used on top of 4k

New development tools (which they had early access) really good

4k same settings as original = 25% spare GPU

Motion blur same as PC

Car detail a lot higher than original

Distance viewing better than original

Custom setup between ultra and high

Somethings higher than PC can get such as shadow resolution (4k)

Reflections much higher quality

Easy and quick transition

Still head room for future.

Please note this is not me saying any of this but a developer of the game.

If they could do 60fps they should have offered it really in my view.

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#2 Posted by RR360DD (13955 posts) -

Game looks incredible on the X. I'm hooked again

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#3 Edited by scatteh316 (8865 posts) -

* 60fps - At reduced settings to what the game shipped with.

* Motion blur is lower quality then PC (DF comparison video showed this)

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#4 Posted by SecretPolice (33343 posts) -

A patch allowing us to choose would be awesome. Make it happen. MS. :D

Also, inb4 hiding behind a top tier PC rig... erm, wait, already happened. :P

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#5 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

No complaints here with the GOAT being 30fps.

I await the usual, but a game can't be played properly or be fun without 60fps.

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#6 Posted by stereointegrity (12004 posts) -

wondering if i should pick this game up. i need a driving game in my life

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#7 Edited by Pedro (31181 posts) -
@scatteh316 said:

* 60fps - At reduced settings to what the game shipped with.

* Motion blur is lower quality then PC (DF comparison video showed this)

So in other words the One X only challenger is a highend PC that is at least quadruple the price?

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#8 Posted by Archangel3371 (25051 posts) -

I thought the game looked amazing on the original Xbox One however on the Xbox One X it looks absolutely gorgeous. Me likey. :)

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#9 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@stereointegrity said:

wondering if i should pick this game up. i need a driving game in my life

It simply is the best racing game this gen (until FH4 hits) and the key word is "driving" as its not just a racing game, there is so much variety from driving in the big city to country roads, through swamps, pools of water etc, barn finds, drifting events, jumps, online cruising for up to 4 friends etc. Its just the complete driving game. If you like driving/racing games then its almost a crime not to own it.

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#10 Posted by Juub1990 (8011 posts) -

@i_p_daily: It’s a damn racing game and you’re gonna settle for 30fps?

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#11 Posted by stereointegrity (12004 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:
@stereointegrity said:

wondering if i should pick this game up. i need a driving game in my life

It simply is the best racing game this gen (until FH4 hits) and the key word is "driving" as its not just a racing game, there is so much variety from driving in the big city to country roads, through swamps, pools of water etc, barn finds, drifting events, jumps, online cruising for up to 4 friends etc. Its just the complete driving game. If you like driving/racing games then its almost a crime not to own it.

downloading the demo now!

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#12 Edited by GoldenElementXL (2085 posts) -

FH3 is a great game no matter where you play it. I played a great deal of it on the S because of HDR. It’s amazing at 4K/60 on PC of course, but that’s just icing on the cake for this great game. That being said, getting this game at 60fps would have required a good deal of compromise. PR speak at its finest yet again.

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#13 Posted by GioVela2010 (5301 posts) -

@goldenelementxl said:

FH3 is a great game no matter where you play it. I played a great deal of it on the S because of HDR. It’s amazing at 4K/60 on PC of course, but that’s just icing on the cake for this great game. That being said, getting this game at 60fps would have required a good deal of compromise. PR speak at its finest yet again.

HDR Master Race checking in!

love me some HDR!

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#14 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@Juub1990 said:

@i_p_daily: It’s a damn racing game and you’re gonna settle for 30fps?

Take the PC elitist 60fps or bust BS to someone who cares.

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#15 Posted by Juub1990 (8011 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:

Take the PC elitist 60fps or bust BS to someone who cares.

Of course you'd accept it because you're a damn hypocrite.

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#16 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@Juub1990 said:
@i_p_daily said:

Take the PC elitist 60fps or bust BS to someone who cares.

Of course you'd accept it because you're a damn hypocrite.

Oh really please explain.

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#17 Posted by lundy86_4 (49776 posts) -

Nice. The X is really stacking up. I'mma still stick to my new PC, plus upgrade this year, but for console players it's the shit.

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#18 Posted by sailor232 (6878 posts) -

This game is miles above any other racing game out on any system, a game fully deserving a 10/10 score, even the expansions are amazing.

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#19 Posted by FLOPPAGE_50 (4433 posts) -

@Juub1990: dude stop using that moronic argument

YOU Play games at 30 fps too, you also play on consoles

Quit being a hypocrite, you are that asshurt xbox has a good looking game?

Pathetic.

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#20 Posted by Juub1990 (8011 posts) -
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@Juub1990: dude stop using that moronic argument

YOU Play games at 30 fps too, you also play on consoles

Quit being a hypocrite, you are that asshurt xbox has a good looking game?

Pathetic.

Great. Another hypocritical fanboy.

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#21 Edited by FLOPPAGE_50 (4433 posts) -

@i_p_daily: the amount of hurt these clowns are showing over the top rated racing game this gen is absolutely sad.

No real gamer would spin this as a negative unless you are insanely insecure.

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#22 Posted by Juub1990 (8011 posts) -
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@i_p_daily: the amount of hurt these clowns are showing over the top rated racing game this gen is absolutely sad.

No real gamer would spin this as a negative unless you are insanely insecure.

Yeah hurt I get to play the game at 60fps/max settings lol. Instead of chasing 4K focus on things that actually impacts the gameplay. Now "maybe" we'll get a 60fps mode as if it this wasn't supposed to be a priority for a racing game lol.

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#23 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@Juub1990 said:
@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@i_p_daily: the amount of hurt these clowns are showing over the top rated racing game this gen is absolutely sad.

No real gamer would spin this as a negative unless you are insanely insecure.

Yeah hurt I get to play the game at 60fps/max settings lol. Instead of chasing 4K focus on things that actually impacts the gameplay. Now "maybe" we'll get a 60fps mode as if it this wasn't supposed to be a priority for a racing game lol.

Still waiting for you to show why i'm a hypocrite juub.

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#24 Posted by DaVillain- (30570 posts) -

@i_p_daily said:

No complaints here with the GOAT being 30fps.

I await the usual, but a game can't be played properly or be fun without 60fps.

It's sad to see comments like this today's standards :(

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#25 Edited by Juub1990 (8011 posts) -

@i_p_daily: You mean how you defend the Xbox at every turn yet start talking crap when Sony does the same? Yeah, you’re a hypocrite.

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#26 Posted by appariti0n (2443 posts) -

Soooo, 4K + MSAA. Obviously not a terribly graphically intense title if the X1X gpu can handle that.

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#27 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@FLOPPAGE_50 said:

@Juub1990: dude stop using that moronic argument

YOU Play games at 30 fps too, you also play on consoles

Quit being a hypocrite, you are that asshurt xbox has a good looking game?

Pathetic.

You see juub is another one of those PC elitist who thinks that because he plays at 60fps its the "proper" way to play it, and if these people are enjoying FH3 at 30fps on console they are somehow not playing it properly.

If fucking stupid, but hey they don't call them PC elitist for no reason :(

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#28 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@Juub1990 said:

@i_p_daily: You mean how you defend the Xbox at every turn yet start talking crap when Sony does the same? Yeah, you’re a hypocrite.

You'll have to be more specific. Surely you're not saying that I have a go at Sony's racing games for being 30fps and then praising's MS for the same thing, because if you are well then you should be able to prove that right?

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#29 Edited by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:

No complaints here with the GOAT being 30fps.

I await the usual, but a game can't be played properly or be fun without 60fps.

It's sad to see comments like this today's standards :(

And yet your GOTY last year was Horizon Zero Dawn at 30fps, sit down clown. NEXT :)

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#30 Posted by FLOPPAGE_50 (4433 posts) -

@i_p_daily: its stupid because he bitches about it then goes to the side and sucks off sonys 30 fps titles

Its sad as ****

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#31 Edited by Juub1990 (8011 posts) -

@FLOPPAGE_50: Nah Bloodborne also suffered immensely from 30fps and awful frame pacing. The frame pacing combined with the dark environments, low frame rate and difficult combat made this game difficult to play at first. I had to stop after sessions of about 30 minutes because of the eye strain and headaches. I eventually got used to it but it’s still less than ideal. That’s why the 4K/30fps hunt annoys me. On PC I’ll drop the resolution to 1800p or less if it means a locked 60fps.

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#32 Edited by DaVillain- (30570 posts) -
@i_p_daily said:

And yet your GOTY last year was Horizon Zero Dawn at 30fps, sit down clown. NEXT :)

Different is, Horizon is only available on PS4 vs Forza Horizon 3 can be play both Xbox One & on PC and on PC, you'll enjoy 60fps.

Anyhow, my point is, when you said "No complaints here with the GOAT being 30fps" it's comments like this is what developers love to see. Developers will continue releasing poor framerate games as it is without trying to aim 60fps. By accepting 30fps, you also prove to Phil Spencer console gamers don't care about 60fps. That's all I'm saying. I'll let you think about that.

Edit: But I always say thanks to MS for releasing there games on PC.

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#33 Edited by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@davillain- said:
@i_p_daily said:

And yet your GOTY last year was Horizon Zero Dawn at 30fps, sit down clown. NEXT :)

Different is, Horizon is only available on PS4 vs Forza Horizon 3 can be play both Xbox One & on PC and on PC, you'll enjoy 60fps.

Anyhow, my point is, when you said "No complaints here with the GOAT being 30fps" it's comments like this is what developers love to see. Developers will continue releasing poor framerate games as it is without trying to aim 60fps. By accepting 30fps, you also prove to Phil Spencer console gamers don't care about 60fps. That's all I'm saying. I'll let you think about that.

Edit: But I always say thanks to MS for releasing there games on PC.

Like I said sit down because the more you talk the you embarrass yourself. Because by buying Horizon Zero Dawn you are endorsing them at 30fps, geez dav no matter how you spin it you look the fool.

Nice owning, oops I mean talking to you dav :)

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#34 Edited by DaVillain- (30570 posts) -

@i_p_daily: Sorry but you also prove yourself you're no better then the Cows here. Why are you leaving out Nintendo games? All you ever talk is Horizon and yes, I love the game and enjoy it, but I also own Breath of the Wild which is 30fps but you never bother to mention it? Hmmm I wonder why?

Better luck next time ;)

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#35 Posted by pdogg93 (1046 posts) -

Ah yes, more bullshit dev talk about the secret sauce. Why are you celebrating an old game again? Oh right because you have absolutely nothing to look forward to on your xbone x.

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#36 Posted by Pedro (31181 posts) -

@pdogg93 said:

Ah yes, more bullshit dev talk about the secret sauce. Why are you celebrating an old game again? Oh right because you have absolutely nothing to look forward to on your xbone x.

What are you looking forward to in the next two months on the PS4?

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#37 Posted by pdogg93 (1046 posts) -

@Pedro: why do I have a window of only 2 months?

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#38 Posted by DaVillain- (30570 posts) -

@pdogg93 said:

Ah yes, more bullshit dev talk about the secret sauce. Why are you celebrating an old game again? Oh right because you have absolutely nothing to look forward to on your xbone x.

*Scratches head* But FH3 launch back in September 2016!

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#39 Edited by Pedro (31181 posts) -

@davillain- said:

Different is, Horizon is only available on PS4 vs Forza Horizon 3 can be play both Xbox One & on PC and on PC, you'll enjoy 60fps.

Anyhow, my point is, when you said "No complaints here with the GOAT being 30fps" it's comments like this is what developers love to see. Developers will continue releasing poor framerate games as it is without trying to aim 60fps. By accepting 30fps, you also prove to Phil Spencer console gamers don't care about 60fps. That's all I'm saying. I'll let you think about that.

Edit: But I always say thanks to MS for releasing there games on PC.

That's an odd thing to say because the vast majority of AAA games run at 30fps. Why pick on Forza Horizon 3 a game that is the only open world native 4k racing game with 4xMSAA? I can understand wanting a 60FPS option even at a lower res but to act as if supporting specifically this game is sending the wrong message is rather strange. Now if you keep the same stance for the upcoming Sony exclusives this year that are all going to sport 30fps then at least you will be consistent.

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#40 Posted by Pedro (31181 posts) -

@pdogg93 said:

@Pedro: why do I have a window of only 2 months?

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#41 Posted by pdogg93 (1046 posts) -

@davillain-: it sure did. And it’s been my favourite racing game this year by far. Runs like a dream on my PC.

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#42 Posted by DaVillain- (30570 posts) -

@pdogg93: Uh, okay.

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#43 Posted by pdogg93 (1046 posts) -

@Pedro: I’m not looking forward to anything in the next two months.

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#44 Posted by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily: Sorry but you also prove yourself you're no better then the Cows here. Why are you leaving out Nintendo games? All you ever talk is Horizon and yes, I love the game and enjoy it, but I also own Breath of the Wild which is 30fps but you never bother to mention it? Hmmm I wonder why?

Better luck next time ;)

WTF are you on about now?

All I ever talk about is HZD lol man you're crazy, the only reason I mentioned it because it was your GOTY, and is 30fps, if you would have said Zelda was your GOTY then I would have used that game as a reference.

Like I said no matter how you spin it you look the fool, and just buried yourself even more by mentioning Zelda, so stop trying to blame us console gamers when so called PC elitist like yourself keeps buying these 30fps console games.

Just take the L dav and move on

Or not and keep making a fool of yourself, i'm sure i'm not the only one enjoying this lol.

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#45 Edited by UssjTrunks (11277 posts) -

@Pedro said:
@scatteh316 said:

* 60fps - At reduced settings to what the game shipped with.

* Motion blur is lower quality then PC (DF comparison video showed this)

So in other words the One X only challenger is a highend PC that is at least quadruple the price?

It's not "challenged" by high end PCs. It's slaughtered by them. And with Volta launching this year, cheapo 2050/2060 GPUs will be vastly superior to the X1X too.

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#46 Edited by FLOPPAGE_50 (4433 posts) -

@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily: Sorry but you also prove yourself you're no better then the Cows here. Why are you leaving out Nintendo games? All you ever talk is Horizon and yes, I love the game and enjoy it, but I also own Breath of the Wild which is 30fps but you never bother to mention it? Hmmm I wonder why?

Better luck next time ;)

you missed the point.

It's not about those games, it's the about the double standard some of these trolls show, it kills all credibility

This thread started off as a positive awesome news for gamers who enjoy this series, and then some clown entered here to bitch about 30 fps and flex his PC.

What we are saying is why must you shit on this gens top racer over 30 fps when countless other AAA+ games also have 30 fps and get a free pass.

It's silly, there's no effort in this trolling, it's just spewing nonsense.

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#47 Edited by I_P_Daily (8072 posts) -

@FLOPPAGE_50 said:
@davillain- said:

@i_p_daily: Sorry but you also prove yourself you're no better then the Cows here. Why are you leaving out Nintendo games? All you ever talk is Horizon and yes, I love the game and enjoy it, but I also own Breath of the Wild which is 30fps but you never bother to mention it? Hmmm I wonder why?

Better luck next time ;)

you missed the point.

It's not about those games, it's the about the double standard some of these trolls show, it kills all credibility

This thread started off as a positive awesome news for gamers who enjoy this series, and then some clown entered here to bitch about 30 fps and flex his PC.

What we are saying is why must you shit on this gens top racer over 30 fps when countless other AAA+ games also have 30 fps and get a free pass.

It's silly, there's no effort in this trolling, it's just spewing nonsense.

PC guys just don't get it, they like to call console gamers peasants and we're the reason devs don't give a shit and only create 30fps games. Then turn around buy a console and 30fps games for it, so in the end the only hypocrites here are them.

They should practise what they preach or just STFU.

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#48 Posted by BassMan (8627 posts) -

That is a good lie by that first dev/PR guy. If this game could run at 60fps on X1X, they would have the option available. I am sure the other devs who actually know what they are doing would cringe if they heard him say that the game could run at 60fps. Blatant lie. CPU bottleneck prevents it. FH3 is a great game, but still runs like shit on console. Never settle for 30fps if it can be avoided. PC Xbox Play Anywhere FTW!

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#49 Posted by phbz (3133 posts) -

Don't know if it's developer bs but anyway I wish MS started to give players the choice. With that said, the game looks glorious!