15 Facts Why 2018 is a TERRIBLE Year for PC Gaming

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#1  Edited By SchnabbleTab
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  1. No Spiderman (GOTY?)
  2. No Red Dead Redemption 2 (GOTY?!?!)
  3. No affordable high-end next-generation GPU's
  4. 2018 Had the Most Hackers in the History of PC Gaming (according to Valve)
  5. Again, No Chance for the GOTY Title (Thanks to SM/RDR)
  6. No MH:W at Release, Came 6 Month Late with Console Parity
  7. Crypto-Miners Ruined Most of the Year's GPU Deals
  8. Most Notable Exclusive was a DLC for a Game from 2004 (WoW)
  9. Nvidia Focuses on RTX at 1080p/30FPS on a $1200 GPU
  10. Star Citizen / SQ42 Still Years Away from Release
  11. Single-Player Games on PC are Dead Compared to Multi-Player F2P Games
  12. No Super Smash Brothers Ultimate (Without Illegal ROMs on Shady Software)
  13. Xbox One X Wins in Performance/Graphics to Cost Ratio VS PC Gaming
  14. Some of the Biggest Games Not on Steam (Fallout, CoD, Fortnite)
  15. Cheap AA/AAA Gaming Bundles are Mostly Dead (Besides Humble Monthly)

I know PC gamers don't want to hear this but these are all facts. Cold Hard Facts. I'd like to know how these things affect players that actually care about playing on PC, rather than boasting about what PC can potentially do.

I mean bloody hell, look at these stats:

If your platform has close to TWO MILLION game bans in a single month, then you know your online experience is gutter level trash. Even worse, these stats are only for Steam games, you also have hundred thousands of bans in games like Overwatch, Fortnite, LoL and the list goes on.

The worst part is, most people on PC play only multi-player games. No other genre is as big as Battle Royale and MOBA on PC. Single-Player games on PC are as good as dead player-count wise, only modding is saving a selected few.

Then you add in the fact that the biggest single-player experiences are only coming out on consoles and you're practically done. Why even bother? The majority of PC gamers CLEARLY don't care about their platform or otherwise they wouldn't destroy it by hacking in the platforms' most lucrative games.

Everyone that uses the PC Master Race bollox should be ashamed, this platform isn't as good as the fanboys want to make it out.

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#2  Edited By with_teeth26
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There are some legitimate problems you listed, especially the GPU stuff and hackers (though I imagine most of those numbers come from PUBG thanks to China). This is not a good time to get into PC gaming if you aren't already.

I've never had a problem with lack of games to play on the platform though and that is ultimately what matters.

some of the points you made are silly though. Major games not on steam? who cares? SP gaming is alive and well on the platform as well, just not the same types of games that are popular on console for the most part. who honestly gives a shit about GOTY titles and not having a handful of insanely high budget but ultimately shallow and short-lived exclusives? (and lets be honest, if you can afford a gaming PC, you can probably afford to spend a few hundred on a console to play those as well).

Its also worth noting that PC gets MORE multiplats than other systems. There are lots of examples of games that are PS4/PC only, or XBOX/PC only, or Switch/PC only. its like a neutral middle ground that the big three companies will sometimes allow games on while keeping them off their competitors systems.

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#3 appariti0n
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I’m sorry, was there supposed to be a question in there somewhere Gio?

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#4 GioVela2010
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Here come the tears

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#5 Feleciagomez
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Eh, isn't someone a negative Nancy? I think 2018 was a great year for gaming. We should be looking at the positives, and staying away from the negatives. The world is negative enough as it is.

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#6 mrbojangles25
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Idunno man I Don't think in my 25 or so years of gaming I've ever said "Man, last year was so much better". Like...never ever ever said that.

@feleciagomez said:

Eh, isn't someone a negative Nancy? I think 2018 was a great year for gaming. We should be looking at the positives, and staying away from the negatives. The world is negative enough as it is.

Amen!

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#7 Pedro
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Must suck to own a console if you are that bitter.

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#8 mojito1988
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Odd that I still play my PC and Switch so much more than my Ps4 Pro or X1X. Weird.

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#9 Pedro
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@mojito1988: Lies ?

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@Pedro said:

@mojito1988: Lies ?

As if it is that hard to imagine. :)

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#11 SchnabbleTab
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@Pedro said:

Must suck to own a console if you are that bitter.

I'm sure you have a lot of experience in that regard, I mean, you're still an Xbot, right?

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#12 PSP107
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@feleciagomez:"We should be looking at the positives, and staying away from the negatives."

If the negatives are outweighing the positives, then one must address it.

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#13 funsohng
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I play one game online, and rest of that are SP. I'm fine with PC.

Besides, no wonder online is thriving on PC, the only platform where it's actually free like it should be.

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#14 Pedro
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@SchnabbleTab: Nope, I play games and make fun of folks like you. ?

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#15  Edited By SchnabbleTab
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@mojito1988 said:

Odd that I still play my PC and Switch so much more than my Ps4 Pro or X1X. Weird.

So do I, if the PC version comes at the same time or has potential mod support then I'll be going with that, doesn't mean the above 15 problems aren't bad though.

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#16  Edited By SchnabbleTab
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@Pedro said:

@SchnabbleTab: Nope, I play games and make fun of folks like you. ?

Rofl, so you actually jumped the sinking green ship?

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#17 IvanGrozny
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I am pretty sure Spiderman will not be a GOTY..

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#18 SchnabbleTab
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@ivangrozny said:

I am pretty sure Spiderman will not be a GOTY..

Yeah I don't think it can top RDR2 in sales/hype/scores etc.

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#19  Edited By Pedro
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@SchnabbleTab: There is no jumping ship when you have all the systems. ??

Someday you will understand the joy of playing games.

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@SchnabbleTab: Just for clarity's sake, there were that many bans across something like +26,000 steam products.

And while I suspect that there are a lot of bans on consoles as well. Probably not that high.

I can't seem to find any info on console ban numbers.

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#21 JasonOfA36
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15 opinions*

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#22  Edited By Jereb31
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@SchnabbleTab said:
  1. No Spiderman (GOTY?)
  2. No Red Dead Redemption 2 (GOTY?!?!)
  3. No affordable high-end next-generation GPU's
  4. 2018 Had the Most Hackers in the History of PC Gaming (according to Valve)
  5. Again, No Chance for the GOTY Title (Thanks to SM/RDR)
  6. No MH:W at Release, Came 6 Month Late with Console Parity
  7. Crypto-Miners Ruined Most of the Year's GPU Deals
  8. Most Notable Exclusive was a DLC for a Game from 2004 (WoW)
  9. Nvidia Focuses on RTX at 1080p/30FPS on a $1200 GPU
  10. Star Citizen / SQ42 Still Years Away from Release
  11. Single-Player Games on PC are Dead Compared to Multi-Player F2P Games
  12. No Super Smash Brothers Ultimate (Without Illegal ROMs on Shady Software)
  13. Xbox One X Wins in Performance/Graphics to Cost Ratio VS PC Gaming
  14. Some of the Biggest Games Not on Steam (Fallout, CoD, Fortnite)
  15. Cheap AA/AAA Gaming Bundles are Mostly Dead (Besides Humble Monthly)

1. So what? PC won't get every game, but it gets more than console, and more higher rated ones also.

2. See 1

3. So what? I don't need a next gen card to beat a console in performance?

4. Probably your only relevant comment here. Well done.

5. See 1 & 2

6. ....Again so what? Better version on PC came to PC?

7. Yeah they did make it more expensive. Good thing I don't have to upgrade if I don't want to aye.

8. IMO most notable exclusive where the Total Warhammer games, they are awesome.

9. See 3 & 7

10. Yeah, games take time to develop. Who would have thought.

11. If by dead you mean, PC get's more than consoles. Sure label it dead.

12. Hahahah, you mean PC can play it. You just don't like the fact.

13. Can I ask for the results of this ratio analysis you performed? (Side note, PC still has better performance, even if it's more expensive).

14. ..... Ummm........ Yeah some of the biggest games weren't on Steam.....????.... But your point is???

15. So they're dead... but they aren't?? is that what your saying?

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#23 SchnabbleTab
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@jereb31 said:

@SchnabbleTab: Just for clarity's sake, there were that many bans across something like +26,000 steam products.

And while I suspect that there are a lot of bans on consoles as well. Probably not that high.

I can't seem to find any info on console ban numbers.

Just for clarity's sake, these are multi-player bans, Steam doesn't have 26,000+ MP games. Most games on Steam are asset flips that no one actually plays. According to BattleEye over a million PUBG players have been banned in January alone.

Most of these bans are from people who've cheated in PUBG, CS:GO, R6:Siege and the likes.

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#24 Jereb31
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@SchnabbleTab said:
@jereb31 said:

@SchnabbleTab: Just for clarity's sake, there were that many bans across something like +26,000 steam products.

And while I suspect that there are a lot of bans on consoles as well. Probably not that high.

I can't seem to find any info on console ban numbers.

Just for clarity's sake, these are multi-player bans, Steam doesn't have 26,000+ MP games. Most games on Steam are asset flips that no one actually plays. According to BattleEye over a million PUBG players have been banned in January alone.

Most of these bans are from people who've cheated in PUBG, CS:GO, R6:Siege and the likes.

Can you send me the sources on the PUBG, CS:GO etc. stuff. I'm genuinely interested.

Agree, most of the bans would probably occur on MP games. Doesn't seem likely it would happen on SP only.

Do you have any info on console ban numbers? Makes it hard to benchmark anything without those numbers.

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#25 appariti0n
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I dunno, it's getting better and better for me lately.

Soulsborne games are on PC now

Dragon quest is on PC now

Final Fantasy main series is on PC now

Ni no Kuni is on PC now.

Yakuza 0 is on PC, and the rest is in the works.

RDR2 looks sort of interesting, but is pretty much guaranteed to make it to PC eventually.

Every new console generation gives me less and less reasons to buy one. My ps4 is the worst investment ever. Grand total of two games I actually cared to play. HZD (which was good, but not some timeless classic I'll go back to again and again) and Persona 5. Bloodborne is the only other title I actually want to play, but haven't gotten around to yet. Hopefully the fps drops into the low 20's don't make me hurl.

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Cows am cry.

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#27 Fairmonkey
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It could be worse, i could be a console only gamer :P. Good thing I have a ps4 and a switch to play those games you mentioned. 99% of everything else is PC. Its just better

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#28  Edited By Dark_sageX
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@SchnabbleTab said:
  1. No Spiderman (GOTY?)
  2. No Red Dead Redemption 2 (GOTY?!?!)
  3. No affordable high-end next-generation GPU's
  4. 2018 Had the Most Hackers in the History of PC Gaming (according to Valve)
  5. Again, No Chance for the GOTY Title (Thanks to SM/RDR)
  6. No MH:W at Release, Came 6 Month Late with Console Parity
  7. Crypto-Miners Ruined Most of the Year's GPU Deals
  8. Most Notable Exclusive was a DLC for a Game from 2004 (WoW)
  9. Nvidia Focuses on RTX at 1080p/30FPS on a $1200 GPU
  10. Star Citizen / SQ42 Still Years Away from Release
  11. Single-Player Games on PC are Dead Compared to Multi-Player F2P Games
  12. No Super Smash Brothers Ultimate (Without Illegal ROMs on Shady Software)
  13. Xbox One X Wins in Performance/Graphics to Cost Ratio VS PC Gaming
  14. Some of the Biggest Games Not on Steam (Fallout, CoD, Fortnite)
  15. Cheap AA/AAA Gaming Bundles are Mostly Dead (Besides Humble Monthly)

1. Who freakin cares? I can easily name 100 games you can't play on consoles for every 1 game I can't play on PC.

2. Its coming to PC, also, who freakin cares?

3. Neither do consoles, actually you don't even have dedicated GPUs...

4. They are still a minority, this is a none issue, are you going to complain about the color of the windows logo as well?

5. Refer to point 1, also are you the type of idiot who will refuse to play a great game simply because it was given an arbitrary award?

6. Monster Hunter World is on the PC....

7. GPU prices went back down....

8. Refer to point 1

9. But you can get it cheaper on consoles? oh wait consoles don't have ray tracing tech, heck consoles can barely maintain 4k (actual native 4k and not the checkerboard crap), heck do you even know what 60fps looks like?

10. What if I don't care about Star Citizen? also refer to point 1

11. ...do you work for EA?

12. Does the PS4 have smash bros? does the xbox have smash bros? also ROMs in it self are not illegal, and even if it was, what reason would I have to give two shits about it? if I want to play it, I play it.

13. LOL no it doesn't! of all the points this HAS to be the stupidest of them all! XD

14. Fallout is on Steam, as for the rest, so what? do games HAVE to be on steam? download the other service providers and play those games

15. Errm no you can still get AAA titles for cheap prices. And even if they are not as cheap as they used to be they are still far cheaper than consoles, so PC is still the better alternative.

Dude you are clearly not happy with your peasant machine if you had to go through so much effort to make yourself look like a fool, PC is the best platform, accept that fact and please go home and cry alone.

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#29 Ghosts4ever
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We PC gamers are grown up people so we dont need childish spierman game. RDR2 will come to PC next year anyways.

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#30 Crimson_V
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@SchnabbleTab:

This is just so dumb

1. Nobody fucking cares about a spiderman game, i personally wouldn't have bought it even if it released for 10 bucks on PC.

2. Red Dead Redemption 2 will probably release later on PC like all rockstar games do.

3. Those "non-affordable" gpu's are still probably ahead of the next console generation.

4. I haven't encountered a single hacker, valve isn't the end all be all +large ban count doesn't mean shit, it just tells you that stuff is better monitored now those numbers are nothing special way more people play on PC then all consoles combined.

5. Why should anyone care about awards?

6. Why are people so obsessed with getting games a couple of months early?

7. Modern GPU's paid for themselves and even made you money while older GPU's (less efficient ones) were still cheap.

8. It's an expansion, but wow is trash so it doesn't matter either way to me.

9. The gpu's are still faster then whatever next gen consoles will have.

10. nobody cares about Star Citizen.

11. Multiplayer games on PC dwarf everything (including console player base)

12. You can legally buy the game rip it and run it on a legal emulator legally.

13. Your math is definitely wrong on that, you should factor in subscription fees and the extra cost of games and the fact that you can only run a select few software on your xbox other then playing those games its a brick.

14. We are happy to have multiple vendors, do you really not understand why that's a good thing?

15. They are still WAY cheaper on PC.

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#31 knight-k
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PC gaming is a joke, they have no good AAA exclusives. Only good for moba and indie trash.

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#32 PC_Rocks
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The TC convinced me with his facts (opinions) to throw my PC. (NOT) Damn, Nvidia really did a number on cows.

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#33 scatteh316
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TC, your number 9 argument is wrong.

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#34 djoffer
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Gratz op you win the most-ridiculous-post award for September!

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#35 ribhu672
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And yet i can play games like ac Odyssey, shadow of tomb raider etc. upcoming games at 60 fps only on PC. That's not what I'd call a terrible thing you know. In fact that would be one of it's perks.

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#36  Edited By Litchie
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Basically all of those points make zero sense. But carry on by all means. I find it funny when people are dumb as hell without knowing it. Sad, but funny.

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#37  Edited By BenjaminBanklin
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Lot of PC hit threads in system wars. What's the deal? In the cases of Sony and Nintendo, PC is no threat to either console since their first party output are (mostly) off the platform this gen.

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#39 gameofthering
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Most of the games I play are on PC anyway. So it doesn't really bother me.

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#40 enzyme36
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None of that shit matters.... that list is SW bs and means nothing.

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#41 DragonfireXZ95
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@BenjaminBanklin said:

Lot of PC hit threads in system wars. What's the deal? In the cases of Sony and Nintendo, PC is no threat to either console since their first party output are (mostly) off the platform this gen.

Ever since the RTX reveal, console(mostly PS4) gamers have been going bonkers in SW. lol

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#42  Edited By appariti0n
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@DragonfireXZ95 said:
@BenjaminBanklin said:

Lot of PC hit threads in system wars. What's the deal? In the cases of Sony and Nintendo, PC is no threat to either console since their first party output are (mostly) off the platform this gen.

Ever since the RTX reveal, console(mostly PS4) gamers have been going bonkers in SW. lol

Sony fannies continue to be triggered and as a result are damage controlling like crazy. Sad.

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#43 R4gn4r0k
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"PC doesn't get every game so that's why it's irrelevant"

Sure thing bro

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#44 pyro1245
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Gonna continue to have a better gaming experience on PC regardless of what the rabid Sony fanboys say.

Go play some games instead of damage controlling the fact that your platform provides a sub-par experience.

Seriously... since the RTX reveal you guys have been fucking nuts on System Wars. Get over it.

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#45 TryIt
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well to be fair The Mist and Green Hell where released for purchase.

some others too but i am still busying playing games from several years ago. they literally have thousands of replayablity

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#46  Edited By Zaryia
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For the most part, a subjective list.

Here is a objective list, showing why PC is regarded as the best system at the moment:

1. PC wins at Gamespot. The most used site here, and the site we are posting on. PC has 380 high scoring titles. The next system, PS4, is at 315.

2. PC wins at MetaCritic. The second most used site here. PC has 411 high scoring titles. The next system, PS4, is at 297.

3. PC wins at Digital Foundry. The third most used site here. According to over their Face Off's, a vast majority of video games are better "experienced" on PC.

4. If hacking was a serious issue, PC wouldn't hold a vast majority of e-sports and competitive video games, which can kill such scenes. https://www.esportsearnings.com/games. If hacking was as bad as you say, PC wouldn't have several times the players than PS4. Or several times the highly played online games than PS4.

PC doesn't get many big SP games? Even if you want to pretend CRPGs don't exist (Pillars/Divinity), PC gets funneled tons of console exclusive SP titles and the most multiplats of any system. Which system do you think CDRP and BGS games are best played on? What are you talking about?

Last I checked, when your system is down by 70-100 great games, another system plays the better version of most of your library, and your online is by far less capable - It's objectively a worse system.

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#47  Edited By xantufrog  Moderator
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Jesus Christ. Say what you will about NyaDC, but the dude didn't hide behind a bunch of alts and post the same crap 50 different ways. He came out swinging and stood by his battle line.

Pathetic

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#48  Edited By uninspiredcup  Online
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I'd agree it's been a weak year, mainly been playing console games or (old) pc games.

As far as new stuff is concerned, meh. Battle Royal games can get to ****.

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#50  Edited By dzimm
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@SchnabbleTab: "...these are all facts."

They might be facts, but it's your opinion that they add up to a terrible year for PC gaming.

Not to mention that some of your "facts" are clearly your opinion, which renders your conclusion even more suspect.

You know what all these threads from console fanboys look like to me? A bunch of kids with low self-esteem desperately trying to give their lives meaning by convincing themselves that their choice of consumer product is the "best" when the truth is you're just a gullible sheep being led around by the nose by corporate marketing.